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Friday, August 03, 2007

Braves - Acquired Dotel

Atlanta Braves - Acquired P Octavio Dotel from the Kansas City Royals for P Kyle Davies.

Davies still has promise, but at this point, the Braves are just tired of waiting for him to be a solid #4 starter, similar to the Jason Marquis situation.  This is part of Atlanta’s massive restructuring of the bullpen, of the type that’s more seen in fantasy sports when an owner gets mad at his ####### fantasy team because the Giants never let Tiki Barber score a ####### touchdown so you end up losing to Gleeman by like 40 points because Chester Taylor gets 3 ####### touchdowns.  Not that this ever happened to me.

It’s been a while since Dotel was one of the top relievers in baseball, but he was solid for the Royals after a disappointing cameo with the 2006 Yankees and should help the team down the stretch.  Dotel’s 2005-2007 innings combined still don’t make up half of his innings pitched in 2001 or 2002.  Good move by the Royals.  Unlike Dave Littlefield, Dayton Moore at least understands what his team doesn’t need going forward from today.

2007 ZiPS Projection - Kyle Davies
Period         W   L   G GS   IP   H   ER HR BB SO   ERA
Actual 2007*    4   8 17 17   86.0 92   55 12 44 59 5.76
Rest of 2007     2   3   8   8   41.0 46   26   6 19 25 5.71
2007 Total     6 11 25 25 127.0 138   81 18 63 84 5.74
2008         6 11 26 26 127.0 147   83 19 57 73 5.88
* - Includes minor league translation, if applicable.
Top Comp - Jay Hook


2007 ZiPS Projection - Octavio Dotel
Period         W   L   G GS   IP   H   ER HR BB SO   ERA
Actual 2007*    2   1 25   0   24.0   24 10   3 11 30 3.75
Rest of 2007     1   1 18   0   19.0   15   8   3   8 26 3.79
2007 Total     3   2 43   0   43.0   39 18   6 19 56 3.77
2008         3   1 37   0   38.0   30 14   5 17 49 3.32
* - Includes minor league translation, if applicable.
Top Comp - Jay Howell


Dan Szymborski Posted: August 03, 2007 at 12:43 AM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: August 03, 2007 at 04:47 AM (#2468839)
That's an awfully ugly projection for Davies.
   2. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: August 03, 2007 at 06:28 AM (#2468866)
That's an awfully ugly projection for Davies.

No doubt. If you are trading Dotel anyway, why not get a couple lower minors arms with upside? Aren't there Kyle Davieses on just about every AAA team in baseball?
   3. Zonk, Bearer of Responsibility Posted: August 03, 2007 at 01:19 PM (#2468969)
Davies is still just 23, so I still like this deal for the Royals.

Since Dan brought up fantasy sports, I have to ask this...

We allow FAAB dollars to be included in trades in our league. The big Teixeira auction will be next week. The league leader is accusing me and other owners of 'collusion' because I'm furiously working the phones trying to make a deal happen that sends $8 in FAAB funds my way (He's got $93, I've got $86 left). His basis is that I've specifically termed the deal to others as "it's in our both our best interests that Teixeira stays off so-and-so's roster" (so yeah, one of the teams I've been talking with in turn talked out of class).

If the trade is fair - and especially considering it's more than just one owner I'm talking to - does this constitute collusion? It's not as if we're discussing "who wins what category" -- I'm just pointing out, in trade discussions, that there's an additional, hidden benefit in getting a deal done.
   4. Frisco Cali Posted: August 03, 2007 at 01:29 PM (#2468976)
1. a secret agreement, esp. for fraudulent or treacherous purposes; conspiracy: Some of his employees were acting in collusion to rob him.
2. Law. a secret understanding between two or more persons to gain something illegally, to defraud another of his or her rights, or to appear as adversaries though in agreement: collusion of husband and wife to obtain a divorce.

I don't think the terms of the deal are fraudulent, treacherous, or illegal. Your opponents rights are not at stake. This does not look like collusion.
It sounds like he is using a rather broad definition of the term, one which would make all trades "collusion".

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