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Thursday, July 07, 2005

Braves - DLed Jordan

Atlanta Braves - Placed OF Brian Jordan on the 15-day DL; recalled OF Jeff Francoeur

Like the Yankees/Cabrera, nobody will miss Jordan because even though Francoeur’s not ready, he’s a better option.  Francoeur should platoon with Langerhans, perhaps for good if the Braves are smart and release Jordan as soon as he’s ready to be activated.

2005 ZiPS Projection - Brian Jordan
Period     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
Actual ‘05 209 23   51   8 1   3 23 12 38   2 .244 .292 .335
Rest ‘05   169 18   41   8 0   3 19 11 29   0 .243 .293 .343
Total ‘05 378 41   92 16 1   6 42 23 67   2 .243 .292 .339


2005 ZiPS Projection - Jeff Francoeur
Period     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
Actual ‘05* 323 36   80 24 1 11 49 17 80   8 .248 .289 .430
Rest ‘05   259 32   64 15 1   8 35 13 55   3 .247 .288 .405
* - Includes MLE

Dan Szymborski Posted: July 07, 2005 at 06:15 PM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Latnam's first name is Bob Lemon's middle name Posted: July 07, 2005 at 06:37 PM (#1455671)
I really hope this is just the Braves way of letting Brian Jordan go. Seems a nice way to release him without releasing him.

On the other hand, Francoeur isn't ready yet, but he is better than Brian Jordan. (Jeff may hit in the Majors, Jordan no longer can).

There I just talked myself out of and into this situation.

In summation, please Brian Jordan, don't come back.
   2. Gaylord Perry the Platypus (oi!) Posted: July 07, 2005 at 07:20 PM (#1455860)
Brian Jordan will probably keep Eddie Perez company on the DL until at least September 1.
   3. joshtothemaxx Posted: July 07, 2005 at 07:23 PM (#1455876)
I love Jordan and Perez. Jordan is one of the nicest looking guys on the Braves team and I really hope the Braves can keep him on the DL through the end of the year for some coaching training.
   4. Brian Posted: July 07, 2005 at 08:00 PM (#1456055)
I've seen the name for a few years but I've never heard it pronoinced; how do you pronounce Francoeur ?
   5. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: July 07, 2005 at 08:03 PM (#1456072)
fran-kewer is as close as i can write, without using the oeu that you seem to be having trouble with.
   6. snellville jones Posted: July 07, 2005 at 08:05 PM (#1456081)
   7. snellville jones Posted: July 07, 2005 at 08:07 PM (#1456086)
coor as in Coors, the beer.
   8. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: July 07, 2005 at 09:00 PM (#1456242)
brian jordan is hot to the maxx.
   9. Mike Devereaux: MVP Posted: July 07, 2005 at 10:30 PM (#1456418)
I don't know if Francoeur will be in ATL for more than a couple of weeks. I think this is just a good chance for the Braves' brass to get a good look at him, especially with some lefty pitchers coming up in the series with Milwaukee. I think Jordan's done due to his knee, and the Braves are looking at ways to keep him around without officially making him "Coach Jordan" just yet.

I look for the Braves to make a trade for a veteran RH-hitting outfielder, though they may wait a couple of weeks to do so. We'll see.
   10. Honkie Kong Posted: July 07, 2005 at 10:36 PM (#1456431)
Chipper Jones classic regarding Francoeur

"He's a guy who is overanxious, to say the least, at the plate," Jones said. "So I'd imagine the first thing that comes close between the two dugouts, he's going to be swinging."
   11. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: July 07, 2005 at 10:58 PM (#1456482)
I generally try to stay out of braves trade speculation, since if he's shown anything, schuerholz has shown a predilectin for making trades that noone suspected, not the other way around. But, why would the Braves trade for an outfielder? We have 2.5 (with the .5 being francoeur) young outfielders who have shown great promise for the two remaining outfield positions. If they trade for an outfielder, they'd most likely have to give one of these guys in return. HOw in the world would doing that make sense? These three are the future of the braves. Why trade one of them for some journeyman who might not put up better numbers over the rest of the season anyway? I hear a lot of people talking about players like encarcion, who blows. Why would the braves want him?

It just doesn't make sense. Keep the four outfielders we have. The team is doing fine, and will only become better once our THREE starters are back in the fold.
   12. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: July 07, 2005 at 11:01 PM (#1456488)
Oh, and coor doesn't give the inflection that Jeff's last name requires. Really, the only way to do it is to use the "oue," but thinking about pronouncing it the way I described is much better that just making it coor. There's a tightening of the lower lip that is needed as the "oo" sound is produced.
   13. bfan Posted: July 08, 2005 at 01:26 AM (#1457062)
I am still holding out hope for Austin Kearns for the Braves. They need a RH outfielder; Franky isn't it, and I don't want to come up short in the post-season because someone throws some crappy lefthander out there in agame we ought to win. I would give up Lagerhans and any of Sosa, Horatio or Colon for him.
   14. NTNgod Posted: July 08, 2005 at 01:56 AM (#1457118)
A three-run 8th inning HR is a nice way to get your first ML hit...
   15. NZ BraveFan Posted: July 08, 2005 at 02:32 AM (#1457184)
A 3 run homer and 2 K's. Souns about right based on what I've heard about his playing time in the minors.

Hopefully being DL'd will be Jordan's last thing to do, as a Braves player.
   16. jrod1811 Posted: July 08, 2005 at 07:40 AM (#1457513)
The only problem I see with the braves young outfielders is their pitch selection. These guys strike out constantly. This is probably due only to age but I think another experienced outfielder could really help the braves at this point. I see promise in Kelly Johnson, although I hate the strikeouts, he gets to play pretty much every day now and piling up at bats will help him gain a little more consistency. Langerhans has a flash of power now and then and seems to drive in runs when the braves need them but he splits time with a few guys and hitting every other day is one of the hardest things to do in baseball. Francoeur could be good, but I'd rather see him step up in a clutch situation next year rather than this one.
   17. Pinetarfly Posted: July 08, 2005 at 04:00 PM (#1458089)
BFAN, chatter in Cincy has been pretty strong for the last week or so that Junior would be on his way to the Dirty South for Davies, and a couple other unnamed prospects. Junior's agent acknowledged that he'd heard something about it, but had not been formally contacted about asking to waive the no-trade clause in his contract. The Braves are saying that the price is a bit steep, but they're apparently listening. As a Reds fan, I'd love this deal even it's for Davies straight up. I'd imagine that a Braves fan would be less than excited about the idea of aquiring the expensive piece of glass...
   18. John M. Perkins Posted: July 08, 2005 at 04:12 PM (#1458128)
I believe it's
Fran core

He a Gawgin, not Cajun nor Quebecois.
   19. Kyle S Posted: July 08, 2005 at 04:14 PM (#1458137)
I already burned Terence Moore in effigy last night to keep this deal from happening. I suspect that he's the one starting the rumors in Cincy, figuring that a groundswell of public opinion for trading Junior will lead such a move to consummation.
   20. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: July 08, 2005 at 04:35 PM (#1458205)
Thanks for looking out, kyle.
   21. Pinetarfly Posted: July 08, 2005 at 04:38 PM (#1458214)
Perhaps. The Lidner gang sometimes does give into public badgering, no matter how stupid. (See, Larkin, Barry, 3 yrs. -$27 million.) But, I dunno. I just don't see the Braves doing it. You don't win all of these years being stupid, although signing Brian Jordan wasn't exactly a stroke of brilliance.
   22. Gaylord Perry the Platypus (oi!) Posted: July 08, 2005 at 04:43 PM (#1458226)
But they're only paying Jordan $600K. If the Reds will pick up all of Griffey's salary except $600K, then the Braves front office will be very interested. With the contract he has, not a chance.
   23. jrod1811 Posted: July 09, 2005 at 04:21 PM (#1460602)
Where would the braves put griffey, we have the best fielding centerfielder in the game, not to mention the current home run leader. Are we gonna stick griffey in right? By the way I'd almost be glad to see Davies go, he really has trouble getting out of the first inning and has been struggling as of late.
   24. Gaylord Perry the Platypus (oi!) Posted: July 09, 2005 at 04:25 PM (#1460605)
For $600K, you find a place for Griffey. Not CF, but any of LF, RF, or 1B would work.
   25. jrod1811 Posted: July 09, 2005 at 05:39 PM (#1460660)
I would rather have laroche in at first I think the guy is gonna be great. Kelly Johnson is doing alright in left so we'll have to bench langerhans for griffey. This actually would work out great if he played right because he takes a day off every once and a while so there'd still be chances to get langerhans or francoeur in the line up occasionally.
   26. bfan Posted: July 09, 2005 at 07:50 PM (#1460905)
Pinetarfly-thanks...that is what I heard snippets of on the radio. I can't say whether Davies for Griffey is good or not, if it is salary neutral (i.e. the Reds pick up a bunch of the contract).
   27. Gaylord Perry the Platypus (oi!) Posted: July 09, 2005 at 07:53 PM (#1460913)
I can't imagine that the Reds would be willing to pick up much of Griffey's contract. I think it's far more likely that he gets traded to the Yankees for a pair af A-ball pitching prospects.
   28. Gaylord Perry the Platypus (oi!) Posted: July 11, 2005 at 02:20 AM (#1462854)
Francouer already has two home runs. I don't think he can continue at the pace he's set so far, because he looks overmatched about 60% of the time, but man can he hit a mistake.

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