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Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Cubs - Signed Marquis

Chicago Cubs - Signed P Jason Marquis to a 3-year contract worth $20 million.

Is there an emoticon for projectile vomiting?  Maybe something like :-d~o~o~o~?

Marquis was a serviceable, though overrated pitcher for two years.  As with Mark Mulder, the sudden drop in strikeouts should have been a warning sign - ZiPS say it as a warning sign but only bumped Marquis’ projection last year to a 4.68, miles away from the 6.02 he actually managed to put up in a pitchers’ park with a good defense.  Marquis should immediately report to Dr. Andrews for Tommy John Surgery.  After all, though we have no indication that he actually needs the surgery, it’s clear that his factory-installed ulnar collateral ligament isn’t getting the job done.  It’s time to give tendons in his foot or hamstring a chance.  I’m sure one of them would allow less than 35 home runs or walk less than 75 batters or at least strike out 100.

I can understand someone giving Marquis this contract after his 2005 season.  I would’ve complained about it because of the strikeout issue, but it would’ve been defensible on some level.  But giving this contract to Marquis after 2006?  Cubs fans better hope Marquis is actually damaged goods because if 2006 (and honestly, 2005) represent a healthy Marquis, then there’s no hope of this working out well.  The Marquis de Bad can’t even blame BABIP as he had a .283 this year.

The one thing Marquis had going for him is that he generally didn’t leave you in suspense and if he was having a bad day, it was bad enough that you know you could go home early.  Despite an average Game Score of 43, only 1 of Marquis’ starts had a Game Score between 40 and 50.

Do I really need to say which way my thumb’s pointing?  I’d rather watch a movie entitled “A Homoerotic Evening with Don Zimmer” than be paying Marquis $7 million a year.

2007 ZiPS Projection -  Jason Marquis
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        W   L   G GS   IP   H   ER HR BB SO   ERA
——————————————————————————————-
Projection 11 15 31 31 191 203 105 31 70 111 4.95  
2008     10 15 30 30 184 195 102 31 68 110 4.99          
2009     9 15 29 29 175 185   99 31 66 107 5.09
——————————————————————————————-
Opt. (15%) 15 14 34 34 216 213   98 29 68 130 4.08
Pes. (15%)  6 16 26 26 153 180 111 37 66 90 6.53
———————————————————————————————

 

 

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:03 PM | 47 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:40 PM (#2260040)
Look at that pessimistic projection. That's like a bad version of Estes 2003.

I need to go back and dig up the 2007 Cubs projection to see just how many of the AAA guys we ran out there last year project to be better than Marquis. I'm guessing there's at least one.

BTW, this is supposed to be vomiting:

:(*)

Though I think I like yours better.
   2. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:41 PM (#2260044)
I wasn't thinking of regular vomiting, but the vomiting where various chunks of half-digested food fly out of your esophagus at the speed of light and make you swear never ever to drink again, a promise you keep for a week.
   3. Rivers McCown Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:42 PM (#2260045)
Do I really need to say which way my thumb's pointing? I'd rather watch a movie entitled "A Homoerotic Evening with Don Zimmer" than be paying Marquis $7 million a year.

Classic.
   4. Andere Richtingen Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:44 PM (#2260047)
Those projections look about right to me. The question that I have is what happens if his control eludes him, a trend we've seen in Cubs pitchers over the last few years.
   5. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:46 PM (#2260053)
Here were the 2007 ZiPS projections for the AAA guys:

Mateo: 6-9, 4.64 ERA, 130 IP, 134 H, 16 HR, 45 BB, 93 Ks
Ryu: 6-8, 4.80 ERA, 148 IP, 160 H, 19 HR, 46 BB, 90 Ks
Guzman: 5-8, 4.90 ERA, 123 IP, 125 H, 17 HR, 51 BB, 111 Ks
O'Malley: 5-8, 4.98 ERA, 121 IP, 135 H, 17 HR, 37 BB, 60 Ks
Walrond: 5-11, 5.24 ERA, 139 IP, 142 H, 19 HR, 69 BB, 104 Ks
Marshall: 5-9, 5.34 ERA, 128 IP, 19 HR, 61 BB, 85 Ks
Marmol: 4-12, 5.79 ERA, 146 IP, 146 H, 22 HR, 92 BB, 112 Ks

I forgot how much ZiPS hated Marshall. He's probably the Cubs' first choice too, given that he got the most experience last year and actually pitched pretty well at the start of the season.
   6. Cris E Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:58 PM (#2260065)
:-d~o~o~o~

Those projections look about right to me.


funny...
   7. a wider scope of derision Posted: December 13, 2006 at 04:59 PM (#2260069)
And if you thought $20M was bad for Marquis forget not Meche and his ZiPS-approved 4.90, 4.94, 5.07, 5.13, 5.24 ERAs.... For $55M it's truly the gift that keeps on giving.
   8. Dandy Little Glove Man Posted: December 13, 2006 at 05:17 PM (#2260096)
Here are the SP candidates who ZiPs projects to be roughly as good as Marquis or better:

Name ERA W L G GS INN H ER HR BB K
Zambrano 3.46 14 8 32 32 213.0 177 82 20 81 198
Hill* 3.65 12 8 31 28 175.0 148 71 25 56 190
Prior 4.09 7 7 22 22 132.0 117 60 20 44 147
Lilly 4.26 12 12 30 30 169.0 155 80 23 79 148
Mateo 4.64 6 9 29 23 130.0 134 67 16 45 93
Rusch* 4.68 6 7 37 16 125.0 132 65 15 42 91
Pignatiello* 4.69 5 6 38 14 117.0 117 61 16 44 93
Ryu 4.80 6 8 24 23 148.0 160 79 19 46 90
Guzman 4.90 5 8 27 23 123.0 125 67 17 51 111
Gallagher 4.94 7 10 28 28 162.0 161 89 19 82 123
Marquis 4.95 11 15 31 31 191.0 203 105 31 70 111
Miller 4.97 3 5 16 16 87.0 86 48 10 43 61
O'Malley* 4.98 5 8 30 17 121.0 135 67 17 37 60

In addition to Zambrano, Hill, Prior, and Lilly, the Cubs already had 8 legitimate candidates to fill the back of the rotation as well as Marquis. Gallagher would probably be better off with another year in the minors and the same could be said about Pignatiello, but even so, the Cubs have a lot of options. The only advantage of Marquis is durability, and this is cancelled out by the large quantity of pitchers available who can perform equally well. In short, I am completely baffled by this signing.
   9. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: December 13, 2006 at 06:49 PM (#2260223)
This thread will soon be near the top of Google's 'homoerotic Don Zimmer' results.
   10. greenback calls it soccer Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:05 PM (#2260240)
ZiPS say it as a warning sign but only bumped Marquis' projection last year to a 4.68, miles away from the 6.02 he actually managed to put up in a pitchers' park with a good defense.

One other thing I won't miss about Jason Marquis is figuring out whether it's "Marquis'" or "Marquis's".

There's nothing like driving to a game, getting there a bit late and finding your team down 1-0 with two runners on and nobody out in the first. Thanks for the memories, Jason.
   11. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:11 PM (#2260249)
Marquis is a singular proper noun. So it's "Marquis' pitching performance sucked ass."

English is so ghey.
   12. Repoz Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:13 PM (#2260252)
a movie entitled "A Homoerotic Evening with Don Zimmer"

I caught that on the DISH In His Head Network last week!
   13. BDC Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:14 PM (#2260254)
What's scary is that Googling "homoerotic Don Zimmer" returns 517 results.
   14. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:22 PM (#2260271)
Seriously, you wouldn't believe some of the search terms that get people here. Just today, some of the search terms were "danish porn baseball" and "coldplay sucks."

On a side note, Internet Explorer is heading down to just over 50% of the site users, the 3 most popular languages of users are English, Spanish, and Swedish, and we're on pace for out best month ever, traffic-wise, despite being offline for 36 hours once and 12 hours another time (previous bests were August '06 and December '05).
   15. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:32 PM (#2260286)
The danish porn baseball search was almost certainly a primate. Anyone else remember that classic?

Topic: Just finished reading the '07 THT Annual. There's an article about predicting players most/least likely to break out. (In the article, "break out" doesn't necessarily mean to be good, just to improve X-percentage over the previous season). Jason Marquis made the list of the pitcher's least likely to break out, with a 1% chance.

On an unrelated note, the BIS info listed Ronny Cedeno as the worst hitter in baseball last year, and the WPA info claimed he was the worst clutch hitter. Oh, and in not-so-surprising news, Jim Hendry did the worst job getting the best bang for his buck of anyone in baseball, but we all knew that already, didn't we? (Szym, if you're still there, you can probably expect a book review sent to you on it later today. Don't worry - it's only half as long as last year's review; so just really long instead of really really long).
   16. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:36 PM (#2260296)
Perhaps it's only a matter of time, but I don't believe the deal is official just yet. It was reported on the Cubs site, but I don't believe it hsa been formally consummated -- the transaction hasn't hit any official wires and Marquis isn't listed on the 40man, even after the Cubs unloaded Freddie Bynum and non-tendered Jose Reyes and Adam Harben. (I'm crossing my fingers that some miracle will happen and Hendry will come to some sense.)

Having said all that, according to Bruce Miles, the Cubs are concerned about how to spin this deal to Cubs Nation, realizing the lousiness of the 6+ ERA. The Cubs have justified the deal based on five things --

1. Much of the high ERA has come in two horribly bad outings and a lousy September (even though the rest of the year wasn't all that good either);

2. Hendry believes Marquis is an innings-muncher, having pitched 600+ IP over the last three seasons;

3. He's won 13+ games over the last three seasons and his teams have made the postseason in each of the last seven seasons (apparently completely the Cubs are ignorant of the fact that Marquis has played for very good Braves and Cardinals teams); and

4. Larry Rothschild reports that Marquis has looked good in offseason workouts.

5. Hendry considers him to be "relatively young" (apparently the Cubs consider someone who will be 28 to be relatively young, which says a lot about their philosophy).
   17. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:41 PM (#2260308)
2. Hendry believes Marquis is an innings-muncher

He munches innings like Typhoid Mary cleans dishes. It'll get done, but at what cost?
   18. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:41 PM (#2260309)
Marquis is a singular proper noun. So it's "Marquis' pitching performance sucked ass."

Untrue -- it's Marquis's.

Though that spelling is acceptable for ancient/Biblical people (i.e., Jesus' or Moses'), that's the exception. There is no such general rule for "singular proper nouns," at least not according to Strunk & White or the Chicago Manual of Style.
   19. Too Much Coffee Man Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:46 PM (#2260320)
Something I've been thinking about:
Primates have been evaluating these contracts primarily in the context of "is there someone better you can get with the money?" but it does not seem like many GMs are thinking that way, or they are thinking "It doesn't matter what I do with this money, because I have more where that comes from."

So, an alternative question is "Is spending this money on XX better than doing nothing at all."
The primary reason, say, for KC to spend $55 million on Meche is to placate fans who may be riled over doing nothing at all. I don't really know of any evidence that this works; fans seem to whine about high salaries as much as they whine about teams not making moves.

So, are there arguments not to spend the money (even on player development)? There's at least two that do not get much discussion. One is that if you save the money, maybe you can get someone better next year. Let's say KC promotes Gordon and Butler, they win 75 games ~somehow~ and baseball sees them as the "next" Tigers or White Sox, or whoever. That might be enough to entice somebody to come there. In theory, they have the $11 million per year to spend, plus an additional $2 million per year that they didn't spend on Meche this year.

The other argument is this. Let's say Marquis was signed to a minor league contract as a NRI (which would be normal in past winters). He comes to spring training with a chance to make the rotation, but nothing guaranteed. Piniella gets to pick the 5 guys he thinks will have the biggest impact. But now, Piniella (and at least 80% of all big league managers) will say, this guy bites, but we're paying him $9 million, so like or not I have to trot him out there every 5 days. So, the big contract no only limits the front office, but perhaps equally important, it limits the perceived degrees of freedom for the manager.
   20. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:46 PM (#2260321)
DJF is correct about the plural.
   21. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:47 PM (#2260324)
Er, the possessive, rather.

I need lunch in order to make sense.
   22. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: December 13, 2006 at 07:55 PM (#2260333)
I do have to confess that the s' is a pet peeve of mine. It seems that 90% of the time I see it, it's used incorrectly. People tend to think it should be used in all cases in which the noun ends with an "s."
   23. DCA Posted: December 13, 2006 at 08:03 PM (#2260356)
Though that spelling is acceptable for ancient/Biblical people (i.e., Jesus' or Moses'), that's the exception. There is no such general rule for "singular proper nouns," at least not according to Strunk & White or the Chicago Manual of Style.

I have the Business Writer's Handbook in my office. Which does not agree with you.

Singular nouns ending in s with only one syllable have to get an 's for the possessive. Example: Jones's.

But singular nouns ending s with >1 syllable either ' or 's is correct, as long as you are consistent. So either Marquis' or Marquis's could be considered correct.

The exception to the about is that a singular noun which ends in multiple s sounds should only take an '. Example: Moses'.
   24. Lou Patterbrock Posted: December 13, 2006 at 08:06 PM (#2260363)
Can I pronounce it Mar'kweeses?
   25. Jeremy B. Posted: December 13, 2006 at 08:12 PM (#2260373)
I'm searching for a brief respite from my end-of-semester grading hell, and what do I find but reminders of my students' deeply deficient knowledge of how to write properly? All this talk of apostrophes reminds me of how many of my students use apostrophes to form ordinary plurals, while omitting them altogether when forming possessives. We're talking about undergraduates, and in some cases M.A. candidates, who form possessives without apostrophes. Hell, my 2-year-old daughter can recognize an apostrophe, though I'll admit she wouldn't be much help with the Jesus/Moses/Marquis question above.

Of course, the worst part is that as a Pirate fan, I lack standing to mock the Cubs properly for their foolishness....
   26. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 13, 2006 at 08:29 PM (#2260414)
"I have the Business Writer's Handbook in my office. Which does not agree with you."

Strunk and White trumps anything. If the BWH wants to be wrong, so be it. They're still wrong.
   27. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: December 13, 2006 at 08:31 PM (#2260416)
Can I pronounce it Mar'kweeses?

Regardless of the style used, it's pronouced the same as his proper name, i.e., "Mar-kees."

It does seem that there is a split of authority on the issue, although most tend to follow the Strunk & White style, such as with this online source, although some add a variant such as with the University of Minnesota (which will use the "apostrophe only" style when the next word begins with an s) or the University of Houston at Victoria (which follows the multi-syllable rule DCA outlined above). The AP method is to simply go "apostrophe-only" in all cases, but Wikipedia points out that one reason for this may be to conserve newspaper space.

I have not found a blanket rule for all singular proper nouns as Szym puts it. When a blanket rule is given, it tends to follow Strunk & White.
   28. Fred Garvin is dead to Mug Posted: December 13, 2006 at 08:34 PM (#2260419)
A Wikipedia link that actually works
   29. BDC Posted: December 13, 2006 at 09:00 PM (#2260469)
most popular languages [...] Swedish

God middag. Jag har hört så mycket om dig! Jag talar bara litet svenska. Var kan jag hitta någon som talar engelska? Vad sa du? Jag förstår inte.
   30. spycake Posted: December 13, 2006 at 11:12 PM (#2260624)
Let's say Marquis was signed to a minor league contract as a NRI (which would be normal in past winters).

How many 28-year-old SPs with 3 consecutive seasons of 13+ wins and ~200 IP have signed minor league contracts for the following year?

3/20 might seem a little crazy, but let's not get carried away in the opposite direction. A relatively healthy guy with Marquis' (or Marquis's) track record should generally be guaranteed at least one more year in the majors by someone.
   31. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: December 14, 2006 at 12:45 AM (#2260722)
I have the Business Writer's Handbook in my office.


Can you spell "oxymoron"?


Which does not agree with you.


To wit.



I'm searching for a brief respite from my end-of-semester grading hell, and what do I find but reminders of my students' deeply deficient knowledge of how to write properly? All this talk of apostrophes reminds me of how many of my students use apostrophes to form ordinary plurals, while omitting them altogether when forming possessives. We're talking about undergraduates, and in some cases M.A. candidates, who form possessives without apostrophes. Hell, my 2-year-old daughter can recognize an apostrophe, though I'll admit she wouldn't be much help with the Jesus/Moses/Marquis question above.


Speaking of other subjects, it's entirely possible to get a Masters in Architecture without ever actually designing a building. As someone on another thread wrote, :-*)
   32. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: December 14, 2006 at 06:25 AM (#2261000)
On a side note, Internet Explorer is heading down to just over 50% of the site users, the 3 most popular languages of users are English, Spanish, and Swedish, and we're on pace for out best month ever, traffic-wise, despite being offline for 36 hours once and 12 hours another time (previous bests were August '06 and December '05).

I didn't actually view the site in Swedish, but I *did* view the site for two weeks when I was in Sweden last month.

Though that spelling is acceptable for ancient/Biblical people (i.e., Jesus' or Moses'), that's the exception.

I'm neither ancient nor biblical.

---

As for my thoughts on this signing: #### you, Jim Hendry and Larry Rothschild.
   33. SouthSideRyan Posted: December 14, 2006 at 06:34 AM (#2261005)
The acceptance of s' in those cases really is a pet peeve of mine, especially when a teacher would correct a paper of mine to tell me s's was wrong.
   34. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: December 14, 2006 at 06:34 AM (#2261006)
The worst part about this deal is that it's so bloated that when the Wrigley faithful turns on him by mid-May, there won't be a chance of unloading the contract.
   35. SouthSideRyan Posted: December 14, 2006 at 07:03 AM (#2261019)
And we know how well the Cubs deal with sunk costs.
   36. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: December 14, 2006 at 07:20 AM (#2261027)
The one thing Marquis had going for him is that he generally didn't leave you in suspense and if he was having a bad day, it was bad enough that you know you could go home early.

Simple solution: have Marquis warm up an hour early. Send out the top of the Cubs order. Have them pitch to him during BP as if it were a game. If he sucks, have a youngster ready to throw. If he gets them out, well, you've wasted an inning, but you know you'll have six good ones left that day.
   37. Dusty's Least Favorite Base-Clogger (Roy Hobbs) Posted: December 14, 2006 at 07:23 AM (#2261029)
What I want to know is: how did the 3yr./$20 million figure get reached?

What moronic GM was bidding 3ys/$18 or 2yrs/$15 that forced Hendry's hand to go 3yrs./$20? What a loser that GM must be. I'll bet if we ever find out who the mystery GM was, the one who bid up Hendry, then that foolish GM will be the laughing stock of baseball fans everywhere.

Maybe there were more than two other teams in a hotly contested "Marquis derby"? How cruel for the fans of those teams to have to put up with dunderheads like that running their organizations.
   38. CraigK Posted: December 14, 2006 at 07:52 AM (#2261034)
On a side note, Internet Explorer is heading down to just over 50% of the site users, the 3 most popular languages of users are English, Spanish, and Swedish, and we're on pace for out best month ever, traffic-wise, despite being offline for 36 hours once and 12 hours another time (previous bests were August '06 and December '05).

If BTF is like every other site on the internet, the usage percentage is probably something like ~50-55% IE, ~35-45% Firefox, and a bunch of other browsers eating what's left, with Opera getting about 2-3% of the remainder.
   39. Miko Supports Shane's Spam Habit Posted: December 14, 2006 at 07:56 AM (#2261036)
What's scary is that Googling "homoerotic Don Zimmer" returns 517 results.

I assume you googled the words w/o the quotes...

at this time:

homoerotic don zimmer: 930 results
homoerotic pedro martinez: 755 results
   40. LSR Posted: December 14, 2006 at 09:48 AM (#2261058)
And now for another sarcastic comment ...

The list of the top ten most similar pitchers to Jason Marquis (from bbref):

1. Joel Pineiro (979)
2. Rich Gale (976)
3. Jake Westbrook (973)
4. Gil Meche (972)
5. Scott Kamieniecki (964)
6. Adam Eaton (963)
7. Jason Jennings (963)
8. Ken Schrom (960)
9. Ted Lilly (959)
10. Armando Reynoso (957)

IIRC 5 of those pitchers (Westbrook, Meche, Eaton, Jennings & Lilly) were suggested/rumored as possible additions to the Cubs pitching staff in one forum or another at some time during the past 4 months.

Maybe Hendry has discovered Similarity Scores and figured that it didn't matter which of the "similar" candidates he signed?
   41. CraigK Posted: December 14, 2006 at 10:28 AM (#2261061)
Maybe Hendry has discovered Similarity Scores and figured that it didn't matter which of the "similar" candidates he signed?

Hell, I think at this point, Kamieniecki would be a better bet to produce.
   42. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: December 14, 2006 at 12:30 PM (#2261067)
The top three comps for Gil Meche:

Adam Eaton (972)
Roger Pavlik (972)
Jason Marquis (972)

In light of the Gil Meche contract, Hendry is a genius!
   43. S. Ransom Posted: December 14, 2006 at 09:44 PM (#2261573)
My attempt at a projectile vomiting emoticon:

8-(*)=~*=~*=~*=~*

re: Post 20 - So, an alternative question is "Is spending this money on XX better than doing nothing at all."
The primary reason, say, for KC to spend $55 million on Meche is to placate fans who may be riled over doing nothing at all.


As an occasional Devil Rays observer, I'd say spending $55 million on any starting pitcher with upside is enough to spark at least mild interest. At the very least, I'd be into his starts for the first month of the season, just to see if the GM knew something the rest of the world didn't. (And the jury's still out on Friedman, so who knows.) Given the D-Rays' (D-Rays's?) rotation over the years, Meche would certainly have been an upgrade.
   44. JPWF13 Posted: December 14, 2006 at 11:06 PM (#2261672)
Maybe Hendry has discovered Similarity Scores and figured that it didn't matter which of the "similar" candidates he signed?


Looking a bit too closely at Marquis peripherals....

Among his 10 comps he has the worst HR rate- I dont have the era normalized figures handy- but he's significantly worse than worse than all teh pther post 1994 pitcher's on his list- the only one close is Meche (and given Meche's home park- that's pretty bad- Meche may actually be worse) There's an era adjustment to be made- but all of Meches have such a dramatically better HR rate I don't think it makes a difference.

Amomg his post 1994 comps only Scott Karl has a worse K rate
Among the post 1994 comps his K/BB is right in the middle- significantly worse than Piniero- but right there with everyone else.
Actually his statistical similarity to Meche is quite suprising- I never thought opf them as similar- I'm pretty sure Meche throws harder for one thing.

The track record for his comps post age 28 is pretty ugly- Stottlemyre actually pitched pretty well over his last 1300ip which skews the collective ERA+ just up over 90. I think Meche is more likely to pull a Todd Stottlmyre improvement than Marquis is- think we're likely looking at an 85-90 ERA+ pitcher over the life of Marquis' contract
   45. Spahn Insane Posted: December 14, 2006 at 11:17 PM (#2261692)
What *is* Ken Schrom doing next year, anyway?
   46. SouthSideRyan Posted: December 14, 2006 at 11:25 PM (#2261707)
What moronic GM was bidding 3ys/$18 or 2yrs/$15 that forced Hendry's hand to go 3yrs./$20?

The answer is Jim Hendry. He didn't take my first offer of 3/15, better bump it up to 3/18. Well a day has passed better add some more. Marquis is a sucker, he could've got 3/27 easy.

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