Devil Rays - Acquired Navarro
Tampa Bay Devil Rays - Acquired C Dioner Navarro and P Jae Seo from the Los Angeles Dodgers for P Mark Hendrickson and C Toby Hall.
Woo, a challenge trade! Well, not much of a challenge for Andrew Friedman and Gerry Hunsicker, landing one of the Dodgers’ most obvious trading chips for an inadequate catcher and a swap of #5 starters. It was long expected that the Dodgers would give up either Russell Martin or Navarro at some point, but most people, myself included, expected the team to finally pull the gun to address a need.
Hendrickson is having the best ERA of his career. Why?
Hendrickson
Year BABIP ERA
Career .301 5.21
2006 .252 3.81
Hmmm, something’s different, I just can’t quite put my finger on it…
Hendrickson, of course, remains Mark Hendrickson. He’s still really tall. He still has no fastball. He still has a few other pitches of varying quality that batters swing out mainly out of boredom.
While Hendrickson should head down, Jae Seo should be heading back up and while neither are stars, just adequate #4/#5 starters. In the long run, I’d put them about even (though Seo has more serfdom years left).
That leaves the trade as Toby Hall for Dioner Navarro. If the Rays’ new braintrust can get contending teams to upgrade their players for free, they’ll be in contention in the AL East in no time.
Dan Szymborski
Posted: June 27, 2006 at 08:28 PM |
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Btw, who is the closer in LA these days? Still Baez?
Carter he of the 8.49 era?
Ok Carter is at 2.11 in Las Vegas...
Here's the TO thread. Not much praise for the Dodgers.
NO!!!! Definately not!!! Baez will never be even considered to pitch the ninth with a lead in LA ever again! Never! There isn't a chance that would ever happen no matter what!
Saito is the closer now, but he only has four saves because the Dodgers haven't had many save opps in the last month and a half.
Also, this may be impossible to believe, but I actually found somebody who thought the trade was good for the Dodgers:
boone the trade today was great i dont care what you say. dioner was bad, martin is only a million times better. seo has nothing on hendrickson. toby hall is much better than dioner. ned colleti has done some great things.
But most Dodger fans consider this an outrage, myself included.
Better prospects than Navarro have been traded for worse pitchers than Hendrickson having worse years that Hendrickson's having. Waiting another month may move the Dodgers into sellers, and the NL West is very winnable *this* year. If Navarro is traded for Aaron Small 2005 version, the Dodgers should be thrilled.
Lowe, Penny, Hendrickson, Tomko are locks for the rotation, Sele is still alive and kicking, Billingsley may be the answer, and I'm sure some GM/pitching coach thinks Odalis can be fixed. I wouldn't be surprised to see this as a precursor to the Dodgers trading a SP for an OF bat.
I read it your way, Chris P, and of course Larry did what Larry does: Snarky comment pulled out of context to support a view he doesn't actually argue, but allows someone to argue for him.
Your point was to rebut the claim you "simply dismissed" DePo as a failure. You didn't "simply dismiss" him. You argued that his tenure in LA was a failure. That's obvious, and everyone here knows it. As Steve said, getting fired is failing. It's certainly not succeeding. And he got fired for good reasons. Steve keeps posing the hypothetical (What if the firing is a mistake?), but it WASN'T a mistake, based on the performance of the team and the projectible performance. His bad deals outnumbered his good ones. Thus, the canning.
No, what Steve said, and what Chris P quoted in #80, was:
"Simply dismissing DePodesta's LA tenure as a "failure"
Rightly or wrongly, that's what he did.
Again, no. The emphasis on my post was on "argued." In argument, when someone is accused of "simply dismissing" something, the idea is that they failed to argue the point. Chris ARGUED that his tenure was a failure, he didn't "simply dismiss" it. He argued that the case is not made on the transactions (though I would say it's not made ALONE on the transactions), but on the GM's ability to get along w/his coach and w/ownership.
Again, he didn't "simply dismiss" it.
So Hall thought he was going to start for LA???????
So, Hall's a malconent already, Hendrickson is at 4.91 with a Whip of 1.73
Navarro is starting for TB and Seo is at 2.57/1.14
I'd say that TB is winning so far
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