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Monday, January 17, 2005

Devil Rays - Signed Alomar

Tampa Bay Devil Rays - Signed 2B Roberto Alomar to a 1-year contract.

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Dan Szymborski Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:32 PM | 86 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. AT in BC Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:36 PM (#1084918)
What about the Cardinals?
   2. TOLAXOR Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:37 PM (#1084920)
WHEW!!!!!
   3. Guapo Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:38 PM (#1084926)
Hey, that toast will be in the Hall of Fame someday. A little respect please.
   4. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:39 PM (#1084927)
Dan, that is pure comic genius, you'll be hard pressed to live up to that in the future.
   5. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:41 PM (#1084931)
LMAO!!!!
   6. Urban Faber Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:42 PM (#1084933)
Hey, that toast will be in the Hall of Fame someday.

But not before visiting the South Side of Chicago a couple more times.

What HoF member has played for the most teams? Gaylord Perry?
   7. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:44 PM (#1084937)
What HoF member has played for the most teams? Gaylord Perry?

Ricky Henderson has played for 10 teams (Perry for 8).
   8. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:44 PM (#1084939)
Robbie Alomar: now fat-free!
   9. Urban Faber Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:47 PM (#1084942)
Ah, Rickey, 10 and counting. Alomar will tie Perry with team No. 8.
   10. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:50 PM (#1084949)
So let me get this straight: after a franchise best 70 wins last year and with a farm system bursting with MLB-ready talent, the D-Rays believe that the best way to spend 2005 is to play Gonzalez over Upton at 3B, Alomar over Cantu at 2B, and Baustista over Gomes/Gathright/Diaz in LF (until Baldelli returns).

That's beyond dumb. I don't know what else to say.
   11. charlie Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:52 PM (#1084953)
What's wrong with Cantu? That is so unbelievably stupid.
   12. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney) Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:57 PM (#1084957)
Is that Roberto Alomar praying to the Virgin Mary I see in that toast?
   13. GregD Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:05 PM (#1084968)
I heard a lot of things about the truth behind Alomar's public dates with Mary Peirce, but I never before heard that she was actually a Virgin!
   14. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:06 PM (#1084973)
Chuck LaMar is on a roll, baby. First A-Gon and now a future hall of famer? Wow. Whats next? A two time all star?
   15. Buddha Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:06 PM (#1084975)
The only reason the D-Rays signed him is because they are counting on getting a couple White Sox prospects at the deadline.
   16. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:08 PM (#1084979)
Well, the Devil Rays couldn't happen to a better guy, IMHO.
   17. Toolsy McClutch Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:11 PM (#1084982)
Hmmm. Toast. Carby.

You know, I've shaved off about 30 pounds over the last 2+ months removing pastas and breads from my diet. Well, that and not eating like a putz. No exercise at all though.
   18. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:11 PM (#1084983)
LaMarr must be trying to soften up the Florida folks to the idea of contraction. That's the only explanation that I can think of.

Likely promo line for the D-Rays next year: "I see dead people."
   19. Matthew E Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:11 PM (#1084984)
Remember... remember when Alomar was one of the best young players in baseball? And he got all those hits? And hit that home run off Eckersley in the playoffs? And won Gold Gloves and finished near the top of the league in batting average? Remember that?

That was great.
   20. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:18 PM (#1084998)
Absofreakingly hilarious Dan!

Best Regards

John
   21. Joshemy Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:19 PM (#1085001)
That is funny. Best TO since the Mets Black Friday trades.
   22. CraigK Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:25 PM (#1085013)
RDF, Dan. :)

So, what are his real ZIPS?
   23. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:27 PM (#1085019)
Remember... remember when Alomar was one of the best young players in baseball? And he got all those hits? And hit that home run off Eckersley in the playoffs? And won Gold Gloves and finished near the top of the league in batting average? Remember that?

That was great.


Well he was 6th in hits, 3rd in BA, and won a GG in 2001...
   24. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney) Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:28 PM (#1085022)
No love from the Oracle for the Romero and Munson signing? I'm looking forward to the Kingpin quotes.
   25. CraigK Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:31 PM (#1085025)
If that's Alomar, than this is Julio Franco.
   26. CraigK Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:34 PM (#1085027)
And this is Raul Mondesi.
   27. Joshemy Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:34 PM (#1085029)
If that's Alomar, than this is Julio Franco.

You mean John Franco, right?
   28. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:35 PM (#1085031)
If that's Alomar, than this is Julio Franco.

Juilo Franco OPS+ last two years: 117, 112.
Alomar: 81, 81 (hey, at least he's consistent).
   29. Matthew E Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:35 PM (#1085033)
he was 6th in hits, 3rd in BA, and won a GG in 2001...

Yeah. On the one hand, that was only four years ago. On the other hand, it was four years ago.
   30. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:37 PM (#1085038)
Yeah. On the one hand, that was only four years ago. On the other hand, it was four years ago.

And on the other hand, he's going to Tampa, MLB hospis.
   31. CraigK Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:40 PM (#1085046)
I'm not saying Julio's bad, just that he's old as dirt. :)
   32. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:46 PM (#1085055)
BOO YAH!!! You know he is butter...........
   33. Matthew E Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:47 PM (#1085060)
Know what this is?

C: Kevin Cash
1B: Fred McGriff
2B: Roberto Alomar
SS: Alex Gonzalez
3B: Miguel Cairo
LF: Jose Canseco
CF: Rich Butler
RF: Jose Cruz, Jr.
DH: Josh Phelps
P: Mark Hendrickson
P: Steve Parris
P: Juan Guzman
   34. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:49 PM (#1085064)
BOO YAH!!! You know he is butter...........

Nobody better than Alomar at crunch time. When the heat is on, he's the man you want in the middle of it. Diving catch... Alomar crisp as always. Pop up by Alomar.

It's too badly good.
   35. AJMcCringleberry Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:51 PM (#1085067)
Any word on what the White Sox are offering for him?
   36. CraigK Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:52 PM (#1085069)
#33:

D-Rays all-time team?
   37. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 09:55 PM (#1085077)
#33:

D-Rays all-time team?


No Wade Boggs on there. It's all former Blue Jays/Devil Rays.
   38. Matthew E Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:00 PM (#1085094)
It's Tampa Bay's All-Ex-Jays team (so if you played for the D-Rays first, you're not included). Is it unusual that they'd have an entire lineup of this type after less than a decade's existence? I suspect it is.
   39. Shiny Beast Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:12 PM (#1085120)
So let me get this straight: after a franchise best 70 wins last year and with a farm system bursting with MLB-ready talent, the D-Rays believe that the best way to spend 2005 is to play Gonzalez over Upton at 3B, Alomar over Cantu at 2B, and Baustista over Gomes/Gathright/Diaz in LF (until Baldelli returns).

That's beyond dumb. I don't know what else to say.


Easy. "Same old Devil Rays."
   40. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:23 PM (#1085135)
Is this the first picture posted on BTF?
   41. Robert S. Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:33 PM (#1085150)
The D-Rays deserve to rot in the AL East.
   42. Sam M. Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:43 PM (#1085162)
Remember the Saturday Night Live skit, where George H.W. Bush just babbled incoherently, and they shot over to Michael Dukakis, who said, "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy . . . ."?

I wonder if Jim Duquette has a similar reaction when he sees some of the moves Chuck LaMar makes: "I can't believe I got swindled by this guy . . . ."

Hmmmmm . . . has a worse executive than LaMar ever made a better trade?
   43. Artie Ziff Posted: January 17, 2005 at 10:46 PM (#1085169)
Gaylord Perry is correct I believe with eight.
   44. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: January 17, 2005 at 11:20 PM (#1085215)
Gaylord Perry is correct I believe with eight.

Rickey will break that record in five years if he doesn't sign on with another team. He's up to nine teams.
   45. caprules Posted: January 17, 2005 at 11:28 PM (#1085222)
How did toast become associated with suckitude? Peanut butter on toast? Brilliant! Toast with eggs and hashbrowns? Brilliant!
   46. Ziggy Posted: January 17, 2005 at 11:34 PM (#1085227)
I... just... wow... that's... yeah...

Alomar will be brutal. Stick a fork in that toast.
   47. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 17, 2005 at 11:34 PM (#1085228)
Toast was funny. A steaming pile of dog crap would have hilarious and more apt, IMHO.
   48. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 17, 2005 at 11:35 PM (#1085230)
Maybe not steaming, as that implies something relatively fresh and new to the world. Old and brittle might be more fitting.
   49. Dr Love Posted: January 17, 2005 at 11:44 PM (#1085240)
How did toast become associated with suckitude? Peanut butter on toast? Brilliant! Toast with eggs and hashbrowns? Brilliant!

Yeah, but it's burnt toast.


Bah, I was wrong about Rickey having 10. Oakland, NYY, Toronto, San Diego, Anahiem, NYM, Seattle, Boston, Los Angeles. That's 9, I think I accidentally counted San Diego twice.
   50. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: January 17, 2005 at 11:50 PM (#1085250)
What's Upton and Cantu's ZIPS?
   51. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 18, 2005 at 12:06 AM (#1085268)
#### you, Chuck Lamar.
   52. NTNgod Posted: January 18, 2005 at 12:06 AM (#1085270)
If you're saying Alomar is toast, you'll probably get a certain someone disputing that - since St. Louis was trying to get him :)
   53. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 18, 2005 at 12:44 AM (#1085305)
No spit jokes yet?
   54. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 18, 2005 at 12:56 AM (#1085314)
I'm not putting dog crap on my scanner.

It doesn't have to be actual dog crap, just a picture of it.

I'm sure you could find something already digitalized online. Isn't there some website that's just people rating poop (not sure if its human or canine)?
   55. Passed Ball Posted: January 18, 2005 at 01:17 AM (#1085333)
ratemypoo.com

hilarious, sez Jim Rome.
   56. greenback calls it soccer Posted: January 18, 2005 at 01:33 AM (#1085361)
If you're saying Alomar is toast, you'll probably get a certain someone disputing that - since St. Louis was trying to get him :)

I'm guessing that certain someone is not the Cardinals GM.
   57. NTNgod Posted: January 18, 2005 at 01:41 AM (#1085375)
Well, for all we know, Jocketty and Alomar had a veteran fetish for Alomar.

Still, they wanted him.
   58. NTNgod Posted: January 18, 2005 at 01:42 AM (#1085377)
Jocketty and LaRussa, that is.

I don't know if Alomar practices self-love or not, and I don't want to know.
   59. Chris Dial Posted: January 18, 2005 at 01:43 AM (#1085378)
I have an excellent photo of a dalmation dropping - with log dangling.
   60. mgl Posted: January 18, 2005 at 01:47 AM (#1085381)
If you're saying Alomar is toast, you'll probably get a certain someone disputing that - since St. Louis was trying to get him :)

It won't be me, trust me. I wouldn't let him anywhere near my camp, unless he were delivering pizza (no offense to him and his HOF career)...
   61. BDC Posted: January 18, 2005 at 02:12 AM (#1085420)
I count Dan Brouthers as having played for 11 different teams, if you count the Players League and American Association, which I guess you do.
   62. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 18, 2005 at 02:14 AM (#1085422)
It won't be me, trust me. I wouldn't let him anywhere near my camp, unless he were delivering pizza

But could you really enjoy it, or would you spend the meal wondering if he had spit on it?
   63. Snowboy Posted: January 18, 2005 at 02:29 AM (#1085442)
I don't know if I had a premonition or what, but last night I was reading the new Bill James Handbook and I decided to look up Robbie Alomar.
Bill predicts Robbie will end his career with 3190 hits, and 510 steals.
He gives Robbie a 51% chance of getting 3000 hits (he needs 276 more). The only active player he gives a better chance of hitting 3000 is Raffy Palmeiro, who rates a 98% chance since he already has 2922.
   64. Passed Ball Posted: January 18, 2005 at 02:52 AM (#1085481)
More, since you asked...
http://www.m90.org/view_image.php?image_id=1787
and
http://www.heptune.com/poop.html

Based on my experiences, Robbie Alomar gets the garbage photos, Mondesi gets the poo ones.


And my baseball comment.....The DRays are flat out stupid for signing Alomar. They have plenty of options for 2B. Gonzalez was a ?????!!!!! signing, but I can see wanting one veteran for the infield. But both of them? Why have a farm system if you aren't going to play them???
   65. DTS Posted: January 18, 2005 at 04:15 AM (#1085591)
better the D-Rays than the Cards.
   66. kenny williams Posted: January 18, 2005 at 10:03 AM (#1086149)
I love Toast, and come July, I will trade for the remaining,"breadcrumbs" of Robbie!
   67. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: January 18, 2005 at 02:57 PM (#1086233)
Have you guys ever tried buttered toast dipped in hot chocolate? I highly recommend.
   68. rory_b_bellows Posted: January 18, 2005 at 11:10 PM (#1087305)
I know that this is off the subject of dog poo and garbage but does anyone else think that the reluctance of some teams to sign non American born players has anything to do with players like Alomar and Ramon Martinez? If you look at their careers you will see and an early peak and a total falloff relatively young -- 34 for Roberto, 29 for Ramon. This would seem to call their reported ages in question. Taking this into account you could see that the Dodgers would be reluctant to sign Beltre, the Astros Beltran and the Red Sox Pedro as they could be up to four years older than reported.
   69. groove Posted: January 24, 2005 at 02:07 PM (#1098800)
   70. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 24, 2005 at 04:42 PM (#1098932)
If you look at their careers you will see and an early peak and a total falloff relatively young -- 34 for Roberto, 29 for Ramon. This would seem to call their reported ages in question.

Take a look at the drop-offs by non-Latino middle infielders, like Sandberg, Biggio, Yount, Ripken...they each had pretty serious drop-offs around age 34-35. Even Joe Morgan, who remained fairly productive after age 34, suffered a pretty big drop-off then.

As for Ramon Martinez, I think that's a really peculiar example, and I think you mischaracterize it. He didn't fall off a cliff at age 29--he was intermittently average-to-very good from 21-27, continued to be effective but injury-prone from 28-30, and then tore his rotator cuff at age 30. After that he was basically done, though he pitched a few more seasons. I'm sure we could think of dozens of pitchers of all races/nationalities who basically followed the same career path.

Taking this into account you could see that the Dodgers would be reluctant to sign Beltre, the Astros Beltran and the Red Sox Pedro as they could be up to four years older than reported.

Umm, no. The Dodgers actually lied about Beltre's age to make him *older* in order to sign him before his 16th birthday. Beltran is Puerto Rican, not Dominican. And if Pedro Martinez is really 4 years older it means he's Ramon's *older brother.
   71. AROM Posted: January 24, 2005 at 05:41 PM (#1099030)
If you look at their careers you will see and an early peak and a total falloff relatively young -- 34 for Roberto, 29 for Ramon. This would seem to call their reported ages in question.

Roberto Alomar is the son of an MLB player. I'll bet you could find a write-up of a game from some time in the 60's that mentions Sandy Alomar becoming a dad.
   72. AROM Posted: January 24, 2005 at 05:43 PM (#1099036)
Maybe not since his B-D was in February, but an old media guide might tell you at what point Sandy Sr. had a second son.
   73. Matthew E Posted: January 24, 2005 at 05:52 PM (#1099054)
I'll bet you could find a write-up of a game from some time in the 60's that mentions Sandy Alomar becoming a dad.

There's a Jays media guide from the late '70s that has a picture of... was it Rico Carty? Someone like that. A guy then with the Jays. He was signing autographs for two little kids. The picture was taken during a spring training game between the Jays and Rangers (Sandy Alomar, Sr's team at the time), and the two little kids were Sandy Jr. and Roberto.
   74. Dewey, Soupuss Not Doomed to Succeed Posted: January 24, 2005 at 07:27 PM (#1099323)
the two little kids were Sandy Jr. and Roberto.

On that note, I remember reading a Sports Illustrated article about Cecil Fielder when I was in high school. One photo showed a six-year-old Prince fielder running around the Tigers' clubhouse.

I feel old now.
   75. Quinton McCracken's BFF Posted: March 19, 2005 at 09:26 PM (#1207168)
He's officially toast now, but only one question remains: which cap should he don on that plaque?
   76. Guy LeDouche Posted: March 19, 2005 at 10:03 PM (#1207247)
"He's officially toast now, but only one question remains: which cap should he don on that plaque?"


Ummm....

TORONTO BLUE JAYS WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS

2002
2003
   77. Quinton McCracken's BFF Posted: March 19, 2005 at 10:13 PM (#1207260)
Thank you, Guy. I'm now awaiting opinions from Vic Romano and Kenny Blankenship.

I also think it should be the BJ's and not the Mets.
   78. Johnny Tuttle Posted: March 19, 2005 at 10:47 PM (#1207301)
It should be Toronto, but I would hope that either Cleveland or Baltimore would be considered over the Mets.
   79. Obama Bomaye Posted: January 06, 2009 at 07:06 PM (#3044570)
I'm hungry.
   80. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: November 07, 2009 at 08:01 PM (#3381954)
I think this is my favorite TO of all time.
   81. frannyzoo Posted: November 08, 2009 at 03:36 AM (#3382138)
Wait for it.....
   82. frannyzoo Posted: November 08, 2009 at 03:37 AM (#3382140)
Mine is still this one

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