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Wednesday, December 07, 2005

Diamondbacks - Acquired Estrada

Arizona Diamondbacks - Acquired C Johnny Estrada from the Atlanta Braves for P Lance Cormier and Oscar Villarreal.

Estrada had a disappointing season with the Braves in 2005 and though I think he’s every bit as useful as Paul Lo Duca, I can’t imagine his trade value was very high.  Quite an odd career - he was worthless in the minors for a long time but suddenly started hitting in the minors and then, the majors, making the Kevin Millwood trade look a whole lot better.  But the Braves have Brian McCann and then, Salty J coming up, so they didn’t feel that they really needed Estrada very much.  Cormier should be a suitable back-of-the-bullpen reliever and Villarreal’s worth a try, though his arm isn’t what it used to be.

The Diamondbacks had 2 disappointing catchers of their own in Koyie Hill and Chris Snyder, but decided it was easier to pick up Estrada then try to figure out whether either, both, or none would improve in 2006.

2006 ZiPS Projections
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Player     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Estrada     383 42 110 34 0   5 49 29 43   0 .287 .346 .415

 

2006 ZiPS Projections
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Player       W   L   G GS   IP   H   ER HR BB SO   ERA
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Cormier     8   7 44 16 138 137   67 13 50 91 4.37
Villarreal   2   2 21   7   27   29   15   5   8 19 5.00

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 07, 2005 at 09:12 PM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Robert S. Posted: December 08, 2005 at 02:54 AM (#1766591)
I wouldn't bank on Cormier for much. Aside from a nice curve, he's got thoroughly mediocre stuff. And for a control guy, he walks way too many batters. His greatest selling point is that he'll look a lot better outside of BOB.

I haven't seen anything in the last two years to indicate that Villarreal is anything but toast. I hope I'm wrong.

Koyie Hill has no value whatsoever. He does nothing well. Never has; never will. He doesn't even block the plate. He must be one helluva nice guy to still be in baseball.

I don't have a clue about Snyder after that debacle of a season. I'd probably send him down to AAA at this point so he could get some consistent PT and hope for the best.

Estrada's dirt-cheap, likely to be no worse than decent and isn't going to block anyone. Kudos to Byrnes for filling a hole for nothing and not causing any other problems in the process. All things considered, this is better than what I was hoping for (Ramon Hernandez) or expecting (Paul LoDuca).
   2. 1k5v3L Posted: December 08, 2005 at 08:45 PM (#1768200)
Early indications are that Byrnes will want BoMel to platoon Estrada (vs. RHP) and Snyder (vs. LHP) next year; that ought to give Estrada 400 at bats or so, and Snyder another 200 ab. Hill is worthless; what I am hoping is that he gets thrown in a trade (involving Javy or Glaus) as a spare part; at least that'll free up a roster spot too. If anything, I can see him spending next year in AAA for emergency purposes.

That's a really nice projection for Estrada. He'll probably end up hitting better than LoDuca next year, for a fraction of the cost; and all he cost AZ was two very replacable relievers. Giving up on Cormier and Villarreal is a lot easier than parting with Carlos Quentin, which is supposedly what the Marlins were asking for LoDuca. Can't blame them for trying; they got it so good robbing other GMs in trades, they thought they could get away with another robbery.
   3. shoewizard Posted: December 10, 2005 at 01:30 AM (#1770665)
Can't blame them for trying; they got it so good robbing other GMs in trades, they thought they could get away with another robbery.

It's so nice not being everybody's biatch anymore.
   4. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: December 10, 2005 at 01:57 AM (#1770719)
Good trade for both teams. Arizona gets the upgrade at catcher that they need for very little; Atlanta gets rid of an enigma that they neither need nor want for a few interesting projects. I don't know if Estrada's stat line will look as good as the ZIPS projection, but whatever he does will almost certainly be better than the comedy team they had behind the plate this past season.
   5. 1k5v3L Posted: December 10, 2005 at 02:09 AM (#1770733)
Byrnes has said he wants to platoon Estrada (vs. RHP) and Snyder (vs. LHP) next year. Maybe that'll maximize the production out of the position. Villarreal is supposedly throwing well down in Mexico, so maybe he'll manage to come close(r) to his 2003 season. I like him a lot, too bad he got abused so badly by Brenly.

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