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Sunday, November 26, 2006

Diamondbacks/Brewers - Swap Davis, Eveland, Estrada, others

Milwaukee Brewers - Acquired C Johnny Estrada, P Claudio Vargas and P Greg Aquino from the Arizona Diamondbacks for P Doug Davis, P Dana Eveland, and OF Dave Krynzel.

This is kind of a ‘meh’ trade for the Brewers.  Estrada’s the worthwhile player to pick up, but by my ken, the 2001 season spent backing up Mike Lieberthal is enough to push him slightly over 4 years of service time, which gives the Brewers a league-average catcher for one year past Damian Miller’s departure after 2007.  For 2007, he’s redundant.  Chris Snyder and Miguel Montero will cover catcher as well as Estrada could, with Montero being the catcher of the future, of course.  Doug Davis is not a top-of-the-rotation starter and Dana Eveland is more of Brad Halsey-ish prospect, but I don’t like trading that depth - Vargas and Aquino don’t strike me as anywhere near as valuable.  Given what things cost in today’s free agent market, replacing a solid, dependable 4th starter is not a cheap exercise and the Brewers haven’t developed minor league pitchers they way they’ve developed hitters.

For the Diamondbacks, I think this is a pretty nice trade.  They’re giving up a catcher they don’t need to upgrade on Vargas and a flier on Eveland.  Rotation depth is a problem for the team and having these two players is a nice bonus.

I didn’t forget Dave Krynzel.  For a number of years, the Brewers liked to pretend he was a prospect because of his defense in center.  Tony Gwynn Jr. fits Krynzel’s role very well - he’s very good defensively, the Brewers like to pretend he’s a prospect, and he’ll always be “one year away!” because he’s not a good enough player to start in center.  Moving to Arizona will boost his BA and HR total just enough that he looks almost good enough to be a fifth outfielder, but he’ll still be about the 30th best Diamondback prospect in the outfield.

2007 ZiPS Projections
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Player     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Estrada     401 40 111 27 0   8 49 22 49   0 .277 .323 .404
Krynzel     398 58   97 20 4   8 35 34 104 15 .244 .306 .374

 

2006 ZiPS Projections
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Player       W   L   G GS   IP   H   ER HR BB SO   ERA
——————————————————————————————-
Aquino       2   2 49   0   56   52   31   7 28 53 4.98
Davis       11 11 34 34 210 208 106 23 86 149 4.54
Eveland     7   8 36 22 142 140   72 14 62 104 4.56
Vargas       8 11 32 28 154 159   86 26 53 122 5.03

 

Dan Szymborski Posted: November 26, 2006 at 01:31 AM | 55 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. William K. Posted: November 26, 2006 at 03:27 AM (#2245815)
Krynzel does fill a temporary organizational need for a CF in Tucson. With the promotions of Young and Quentin (and the trade of Gil), the bulk of the D-backs OF prospects are at Double A and below. Who knows, after one season of TEP-inflated offensive numbers, Krynzel will look like a major-league CF to a gullible GM out there.
   2. Dr. Vaux Posted: November 26, 2006 at 03:30 AM (#2245817)
These are with the new park adjustments?
   3. 1k5v3L Posted: November 26, 2006 at 03:36 AM (#2245819)
I'll gladly take those projections for Davis and Eveland next year.

Johnny Boy's projection seems about right. Only 9 of those 22 walks will be unintentional.
   4. Robert S. Posted: November 26, 2006 at 03:57 AM (#2245825)
There is no way those are adjusted for the new ballparks.
   5. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 26, 2006 at 04:07 AM (#2245828)
They are adjusted - ZiPS just dislikes Vargas and Aquino and likes Davis and Eveland.
   6. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: November 26, 2006 at 04:14 AM (#2245829)
ZiPS just dislikes Vargas and Aquino and likes Davis and Eveland.

Well dammit Dan, why didn't you tell the Brewers that before they made the trade?
   7. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 26, 2006 at 04:22 AM (#2245831)
Well dammit Dan, why didn't you tell the Brewers that before they made the trade?

They didn't ask me. I would've happily supplied them projection in return for a sack of money with a dollar sign on it.
   8. Two-Fisted Slobber Posted: November 26, 2006 at 04:23 AM (#2245832)
According to Doug Melvin: "We control Estrada's contract for two more years (before free agency), which was important to us."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=535160
   9. Robert S. Posted: November 26, 2006 at 04:46 AM (#2245839)
That HR total seems very generous for Davis. If that's all he allows, he will probably have his career year (at least in terms of ERA+).
   10. Greasy Neale Heaton (Dan Lee) Posted: November 26, 2006 at 06:41 AM (#2245883)
I would've happily supplied them projection in return for a sack of money with a dollar sign on it.

Would you have done it for a copy of Bandwagonesque?
   11. Master Shake Posted: November 26, 2006 at 07:56 AM (#2245892)
Eveland has very little in common with Brad Halsey. Eveland at the age of 22 pitched very well at AAA, with a sub-3.00 ERA and a K/9 ratio above around 1. He's shown the ability to get batters to strike out, both at the minor league and professional level, and his peripherals are fairly close to spectacular, given his age. He can hit 93-94 mph (exhibits good command) and has a plus slider - which as a lefty is pretty damn good - he also has 3 useable pitches, and his 4th (his changeup) is adequate.

The knock on Eveland is his body type (6 foot, almost 250 pounds), and doesn't take to conditioning the way the Brewers hoped. But his stuff is there (unlike Halsey) and his peripherals are very impressive. I don't know how you can knock him as a brad halseyish prospect as he is lefty groundball pitcher (similarities end there), will only be 23 years old in the upcoming season, and has shown the ability to miss bats on all levels (while keeping his HR rate down, and his BB rate mediocre/acceptable). Halsey never at any level had a K/9 rate that hit 1. Eveland is the real gem in this deal - not Davis, not Krynzel, not Estrada. While the Brewers hyped up Krynzel, they did the opposite with Eveland, and they've been frustrated with his spring training outings and his inability to stick to a conditioning program (although he displayed a better job this season between starts). Last offseason he couldn't really get on track because of a knee injury, but ended up having a good season - don't be so quick to dismiss Eveland as just the third/fourth best prospect in the Brewers system - it's deep, and he's got all the tools and peripherals to become either a #2/#3 starter.
   12. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: November 26, 2006 at 08:15 AM (#2245893)
He can hit 93-94 mph (exhibits good command) and has a plus slider

I remember Eveland starting against the Mets this year and I don't think he touched even 90 MPH in that start. I might be misremembering but I doubt a lefty with the stuff you are describing and Eveland's track record would get traded for so little. He'd be one of the top prospects in baseball.
   13. Dr. Vaux Posted: November 26, 2006 at 08:32 AM (#2245894)
Well, given Eveland's minor league numbers, I'd trade Oliver Perez for him in two seconds.
   14. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: November 26, 2006 at 08:43 AM (#2245897)
Well, given Eveland's minor league numbers, I'd trade Oliver Perez for him in two seconds.

If you were a straight stats guy, you'd make that trade. I wouldn't though. Perez's upside is undeniable and he made strides as the season progressed.

There's a 99.9% chance this comment leads to a skirmish between Levski and Base.
   15. Steve Threadair Posted: November 26, 2006 at 09:36 AM (#2245904)
There's a 99.9% chance this comment leads to a skirmish between <strike>Levski</strike> Colossal Jerk #1 and <strike>Base</strike> Colossal Jerk #2.

Fixed.
   16. Master Shake Posted: November 26, 2006 at 09:53 AM (#2245906)
I remember Eveland starting against the Mets this year and I don't think he touched even 90 MPH in that start.


Okay - Eveland mainly works 88-90, and like I said, with the ability to hit 93-94. He often puts on/takes off mph on his fastball with his command. About you not seeing him hit 90 mph on the scoreboard gun in one start - it's one gun, and one start.

I might be misremembering but I doubt a lefty with the stuff you are describing and Eveland's track record would get traded for so little. He'd be one of the top prospects in baseball.


This is a bit of a ridiculous statement. Remember Scott Kazmir a few years ago?

Again, being 6 feet tall and weighing around 260 pounds doesn't make scouts gleam with happiness. They'll always say very few with his body type have succeeded at the major league level (David Wells being a rare exception, maybe Dennis Reyes too), so it's hard to project him. But Eveland still has good upside, and has proven himself at every minor league level. He has the ability to be a productive, above-average pitcher if given a fair shot. He's a big part of this trade, I'm sure, although no one is talking about him like he is.
   17. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: November 26, 2006 at 10:05 AM (#2245907)
This is a bit of a ridiculous statement. Remember Scott Kazmir a few years ago?

I don't know what this means. Are you saying that Kazmir wasn't one of the top prospects in baseball a few years ago?

I'm not saying Eveland doesn't have a chance to be a good pitcher. There are a lot of finesse lefthander who have had great careers. All I'm saying is that Eveland doesn't have electric stuff.
   18. 1k5v3L Posted: November 26, 2006 at 04:41 PM (#2245950)
There's a 99.9% chance this comment leads to a skirmish between Levski Colossal Jerk #1 and Base Colossal Jerk #2.


That's so nice. At least Jesus loves you.
   19. 1k5v3L Posted: November 26, 2006 at 05:43 PM (#2246006)
Daron Sutton's thoughts on Doug Davis:

http://suttonplace.mlblogs.com/

There are eleven pitchers in the Major Leagues who have made 100 or more starts over the last three seasons. After Saturday’s trade, three of those arms now wear D-backs uniforms. No other team has more than one of these durable pitchers on their staff...

Since 2004, left handed strikeout leaders are Santana 748, Johnson 673 and Davis 533.


I particularly like his "player A, player B" comparison.
   20. Steve Threadair Posted: November 26, 2006 at 06:18 PM (#2246028)
That's so nice. At least Jesus loves you.

Sorry about that, it was definitely not nice. But sometimes your repetitive skirmishes with that other guy just ruin a thread for me. Just take whatever you want from it. Peace.
   21. 1k5v3L Posted: November 26, 2006 at 06:21 PM (#2246030)
You taking time out of your busy schedule to tell us what arse holes we are certainly improves the quality of the threads here. Nothing like extra name calling to raise the bar higher for other posters.
   22. Steve Threadair Posted: November 26, 2006 at 06:27 PM (#2246035)
That's why I said that it was definitely not nice and why I felt I made an idiotic comment. I agree that name calling and personal insults do nothing good. I hope you also agree with that.
   23. 1k5v3L Posted: November 26, 2006 at 06:28 PM (#2246037)
No worries, I don't take stuff personally. As you said, peace.
   24. Rob Base Posted: November 26, 2006 at 06:33 PM (#2246041)
There's a 99.9% chance this comment leads to a skirmish between Levski Colossal Jerk #1 and Base Colossal Jerk #2.

Fixed.


I take it personally. You're an as$hole.
   25. 1k5v3L Posted: November 26, 2006 at 06:44 PM (#2246049)
Man, kevin is testy today. The kevin-petunia honeymoon must've gotten off to a rough start.
   26. Astro-Bonilla Posted: November 26, 2006 at 07:45 PM (#2246078)
They're giving up a catcher they don't need to upgrade on Vargas and a flier on Eveland.
I don't think Davis 07 is an upgrade on Vargas 07-09 at all. Vargas's road ERA is a full run better than Davis's in 04-05, so I'd definitely bet that Vargas beats that zips. Yeah, Vargas is an injury risk, but the Brewers are gettting 3 seasons of Vargas for one of Davis, which means they are expected to get more than twice as many innings than they would out of Davis.

Eveland is a good prospect, but Kryzel is a zero (while Aquino is not), and Estrada is a big upgrade on what the Brewers have at catcher. Out of the last four seasons, Estrada has two seasons with a .280+ Eqa. Over the last four seasons, neither Miller or Rivera have one of .270+, and Mueller is 37.

The Brewers got a catcher, and traded Davis without creating a hole in the rotation.

Advantage: Brewers.
   27. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 26, 2006 at 08:18 PM (#2246091)
Hey, since when do we have flame wars in the Oracle?
   28. Steve Threadair Posted: November 26, 2006 at 08:26 PM (#2246094)
Hey, since when do we have flame wars in the Oracle?

Sorry, my bad.
   29. Miko Supports Shane's Spam Habit Posted: November 26, 2006 at 08:26 PM (#2246095)
Hey, since when do we have flame wars in the Oracle?

It's like the ending to "Blazing Saddles."
   30. 1k5v3L Posted: November 26, 2006 at 09:11 PM (#2246118)
So, it seems both Dbacks fans and Brewers fans are happy about this trade. What gives?

The world must be coming to an end :)
   31. Master Shake Posted: November 27, 2006 at 01:37 AM (#2246211)
I don't know what this means. Are you saying that Kazmir wasn't one of the top prospects in baseball a few years ago?


For clarification, I was referring to this comment: "I might be misremembering but I doubt a lefty with the stuff you are describing and Eveland's track record would get traded for so little. " There's no reason to believe that GMs won't trade pitchers with good stuff for very little - what an arbitrary GM receives in return shouldn't be basis behind evaluating a pitcher's stuff.

I'm not saying Eveland doesn't have a chance to be a good pitcher. There are a lot of finesse lefthander who have had great careers. All I'm saying is that Eveland doesn't have electric stuff.


That's fair - I'm just surprised how little attention he gets in the trade because he wasn't touted as one of the Brewers' top prospects based on his weight at the beginning of the year. I'm beating a dead horse, but his peripherals are outstanding, has four pitches, two of them that are plus pitches.
   32. shoewizard Posted: November 27, 2006 at 02:25 AM (#2246232)
A few things worth noting here.

Estrada's OPS drops from .773 in Chase to .727 in Miller Park. Nearly a 50 point drop in OPS due to the change in home park? Wow!

Montero is projected at .758 and Snyder is projected at .717 I believe Snyder does better than that, but that is a faith based statement. Still, the changes made to his swing this past year, (shortening up) while not giving up anything in his approach, which is to take pitches and look for one to hit, seems sustainable to me. The fans don't like the called looking K's.....justifiably so in some instances....but he is a good "over" bet on the OPS. Montero on the other hand looks like an "under" bet to me. He's half a season away offensively.
   33. Furious George Posted: November 27, 2006 at 04:22 AM (#2246289)
It's like the ending to "Blazing Saddles."

Piss on you, I work for Repoz!
   34. Dr. Vaux Posted: November 27, 2006 at 04:59 AM (#2246299)
That reminds me of a story from my grade-school days. I was playing in a pickup baseball game, there were two outs in the inning, and my team was leading by a big margin. The type of player that I was, as you might expect, was a taker-and-raker whose defense left a lot to be desired. I generally either walked, struck out looking, or hit a home run, in order of likelihood. Anyhow, even though my OBP was well north of .500, the other players on my team noticed all the called third strikes more than anything else I did. I was batting, and the guy in the on-deck circle called out "go down swinging!" He was sort of the manager of our team--he pitched and decided who played where--so I thought he was giving me a strategic order. I dutifully proceeded to swing and miss at the next three pitches, and realized only several minutes later that I probably hadn't pleased him very much.
   35. 1k5v3L Posted: November 27, 2006 at 05:02 AM (#2246301)
You know, Vaux, this story describes Johnny Estrada to a t... except that he doesn't walk much, strike out looking, or hit home runs. Aside from that, you and Johnny could've been twins...
   36. zonk Posted: November 27, 2006 at 03:09 PM (#2246406)
I think the suprising thing here is that THIS is what the Brewers got for Davis - and tossed in a young arm, to boot.

Personally, were I the Crew - I would have waited until Zito signed for whatever 5-6-7/80-90-100-120 deal he got, then watched the price tag for Davis skyrocket.

This trade just seemed like neither team was even trying... It was no secret the D-Backs were looking to deal Estrada, and the Brewers have had Davis on the market for a while as well.

It's as if both teams just sort of said, "To hell with it" - and made the deal just to move their chits.

I agree that the D-Backs came out on top - but I think both teams would have been better off waiting a bit and watching the market continue to blow up - especially the Brewers.
   37. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: November 27, 2006 at 03:36 PM (#2246421)
As a follow up, Doug Davis isn't exactly Mr. Congeniality. Part of what led to his exodus from Texas (how lyrical of me) was his testy personality. Doug's demeanor grated on more then a few in the Brewers organization.

The Eveland thing I just do not understand. On his good days he threw 93, worked inside, and was efficient. That Melvin/Yost gave him about five seconds to show what he could do and decided to h*ll with it is not a good sign. I can somewhat understand finally surrendering on De La Rosa in that the team DID try and let him find a groove which never happened. But Eveland is a year removed from Double A for Crissakes. And NOBODY in 2006 threw the ball worth a tinker's d*mn. Why ship the 23 year old out of town?

Sigh......
   38. Oriole Tragic is totally awesome in the postseason Posted: November 27, 2006 at 04:20 PM (#2246462)
Dan, can/do you use your 3-year PF's in the projections for pitchers?

When I saw Davis' ZiPS line, I didn't believe it. I thought his HR and ERA would be higher. Perhaps I'm misusing the numbers, but perhaps the NL West might actually treat Davis OK, in terms of HR. Again, if I'm misrepresenting the numbers, I stand corrected in advance. In that case, it'd be great if someone would show me what I did wrong.

Anyway, according to Dan's numbers, the BOB inflates HRs by 14%, if I'm reading that right. For the rest of the NL West...

Dodger Stadium: +12%
Colorado: +24%
House o' Giants: -14%
Petco: -24%

Now the NL Central parks:
MIL: +8%
CIN: +16%
PIT: -12%
CHI: +4%
HOU: +16%
STL: ??? (not in Dan's PFs, BRef has it at 98 for pitchers)

I know that his new home park may be more treacherous than Miller, but the NL West road parks seem like they even out, assuming a roughly equal number of starts in each. Of course, if most of his NL West road starts are at LA and COL, then he could end up looking bad.

Just getting him out of the same division as Cincy and Houston may help him a lot. He's given up 10 bombs to the Reds and 9 to the Astros, including a solo jack to Randy Johnson!
   39. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: November 27, 2006 at 05:16 PM (#2246510)
Hey, Randy Johnson was on the Diamondbacks when he took Davis deep. It was revenge for Glendon Rusch homering off Rick Helling the year before.
   40. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 27, 2006 at 09:06 PM (#2246674)
3-year weighted park multipliers for 2004-2006 (not the factors) are below. Without checking, those look like the 2003-2005 weighted multipliers. (Home runs)

ARI - 1.11
COL - 1.09
LA - 1.08
SD - 0.94
SF - 0.89

CHN - 1.07
CIN - 1.09
HOU - 1.08
MIL - 1.03
PIT - 0.93
STL - 0.95
   41. Walt Davis Posted: November 27, 2006 at 09:11 PM (#2246679)
I would've happily supplied them projection in return for a sack of money with a dollar sign on it.

Dan, all Melvin had to do was wait a week or two and you'd have posted the ZIPS projections through "M" -- you didn't have a lot of leverage. :-)

Target Bowden -- you won't be getting to the Nationals for like a month. :-)
   42. Runscreated Posted: November 28, 2006 at 12:45 AM (#2246878)
JD Closser status?????
Does anyone know what this trade does to the status of JD Closser besides making him #4 rank on the catching list of the Brewers. Can you turn around and trade a guy you just picked up on waiviers?
   43. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 28, 2006 at 01:09 AM (#2246895)
"Can you turn around and trade a guy you just picked up on waiviers?"

Sure, if you can find anyone interested in him.
   44. 1k5v3L Posted: November 28, 2006 at 01:46 AM (#2246922)
JD Closser is headed down the Jack Cust career path: two former AZ prospects traded together for Mike Fn Myers... and failing to ever catch on in the majors. Still, Mike Fn Myers...

At least that trade worked out better for AZ than the Mike Fetters for Duaner Sanchez fiasco...
   45. 1k5v3L Posted: January 19, 2007 at 04:55 AM (#2282911)
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6383536

Diamondbacks agree to deal with Davis

Ken Rosenthal / FOXSports.com
Posted: 27 minutes ago

The Diamondbacks have agreed with left-hander Doug Davis to a three-year contract worth more than $20 million.

The deal, which pays Davis $5.5 million this year, $7.75 million in 2008 and $8.75 million in 2009, enables the two sides to avoid salary arbitration.

Davis, 31, asked for $7.5 million in arbitration and the Diamondbacks offered $5.25 million. The difference of $2.25 million was the second largest among this year's exchanges, topped only by the $4.475 million gap between the Cubs and right-hander Carlos Zambrano.
   46. Dr. Vaux Posted: January 19, 2007 at 05:13 AM (#2282914)
If he doesnt get his control back, that could be a bad one.
   47. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 19, 2007 at 05:49 AM (#2282918)
Sure, but if he bounces back to his 2004-2005 level, you won't be able to get him for that price. Unless he stays at his 2006 level, this is a good move.
   48. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: January 19, 2007 at 07:10 AM (#2282939)
Unless he stays at his 2006 level, this is a good move.

So you're saying there's a chance!
   49. Dr. Vaux Posted: January 19, 2007 at 07:44 AM (#2282943)
He could also get worse, of course.
   50. shoewizard Posted: July 31, 2007 at 02:52 PM (#2462806)
Just thought I would update this.

The Brewers are paying Estrada and Vargas 5.9 million in 2007, and the D backs are paying Davis and Chris Snyder 5.9 million in 2007

Estrada 330 PA, 88 OPS+, Snyder 227 PA 87 OPS+
Vargas 107.7 IP, 101 ERA+, Davis 131.3 IP 111 ERA+

Aquino only has 7.7 IP in the majors this year, and Eveland has been hurt most of the year. Of course Krynzel was a non factor

Of course the Brewers got two major leaguers out of the trade so far, and the D backs just one, although Eveland could still turn into something at some point. But Snyder's defense is MUCH better than Estrada's, and so the net result for the D backs was an upgrade.

Vargas is 9-2, while Davis is 7-10, and Vargas has the better WHIP. But I guess the additional innings from Davis offset some of that. I do shudder to think of what kind of ZIPS Davis will have next year, considering his current WHIP is 1.645

Overall, I think this trade helped both clubs in the way they hoped it would. As of today, it's still a push, IMHO
   51. Dan Szymborski Posted: July 31, 2007 at 03:29 PM (#2462850)
I always appreciate when a thread is revived in which I don't end up looking like a monumental idiot.
   52. Justin Upton's #1 Fan (SPB) Posted: September 08, 2007 at 05:28 PM (#2516544)
Shoe - here we are 5-6 weeks later and Vargas + Estrada have faded while Davis + Snyder have been on mutual tears. The trade is looking much better for AZ at this point, although I still personally believe it genuinely helped both organizations.

I'm just really happy to be rid of Estrada.
   53. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2007 at 06:01 PM (#2516598)
Quick look at VORP + Salary in 2006

Doug Davis, 174 1/3 IP, 3.98 ERA, 31.4 VORP, $5.5M
Dana Eveland, 4 IP, 18.00 ERA, -5.1 VORP, minimum

Vargas, 124 2/3 IP, 5.13 ERA, 6.7 VORP, $2.5m
Aquino, 8 IP, 5.62 ERA, -1.8 VORP, minimum?

And, of course, Suppan, 174 1/3 IP, 4.75 ERA, 14.8 VORP, $6m

Chris Snyder, 324 PA, 9.3 VORP, minimum
Miguel Montero, 220 PA, 1.4 VORP, minimum

Ponch, 425 PA, 8.6 VORP, $3.4m
Miller, 169 PA, -1.9 VORP, $2.25m


Pretty much all of the damage against Eveland was done in his recent start vs. COL (5 ER in 3IP or so) and the Dbacks ended up winning that game 13-7. Davis is signed for 2 more years, for 7.75m in 08 and 8.75m in 09; Suppan is signed for 3 more years, for $8m in 2008 and $12.5m in both 2009 and 2010--and the Brewers would have to give him $2m to buy out their $12.75m option for 2012. Vargas probably has no future in the Brewers rotation, and he doesn't have much trade value either. I won't be surprised if the Brewers just non-tender him this winter.

Snyder and Montero, for $800k combined, have outperformed the Brewers $5.65m catching tandem. I find it extremely satisfying to see Snyder outperform Ponch in VORP, despite getting 100 fewer plate appearances. And both Snyder and Montero will remain under control for several more years.

Eveland suffered a torn ligament in his thumb (I think) and missed over 3 months this season. At this point of time, he may be running out of chances to prove he can succeed in the majors, but the Dbacks will give him another shot next year. Even if he never pans out (just like Krynzel didn't pan out, when the Dbacks released him for some off-the-field reasons), I think the Dbacks did very well in this trade. Anything they can get out of Eveland will be a bonus.
   54. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: September 08, 2007 at 06:12 PM (#2516614)
I still have no idea how Davis is getting by in this league. Whenever I watch one of his starts, I'm astonished he doesn't surrender six runs in four innings.
I'm not betting on him to repeat this success in 2008.

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