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Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Indians - Signed Dellucci

Cleveland Indians - Signed OF David Dellucci to a 3-year, $11.5 million contract.

Hey now, in an offseason where the new versions of Mike Devereaux and Willie Wilson get paid like Saudi princes, who would’ve thought an outfielder would be an actual bargain?  Dellucci hits quite well nowadays, at least when his hand isn’t getting injured or developing a rare, career-threatening circulation disorder.  Platoon the Looch with Jason Michaels and you have a melded outfielder about as good as Carlos Lee for a lot less per year.  Contract’s just the right length, too - given Dellucci’s age, it probably covers the rest of his useful career.

Nice move, Shapiro.  Now, just get someone to overpay for Casey Blake and dump Eric Wedge and the Indians will be in business.

2007 ZiPS Projection - David Dellucci
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          AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Projection   313 57   81 13 3 14 46 46 80   3 .259 .363 .454
2008       267 47   68 11 2 10 39 37 71   2 .255 .355 .423
2009       212 37   52   9 1   7 31 29 57   1 .245 .357 .396
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Opt. (15%)  357 75 100 18 4 20 66 59 84   4 .280 .391 .521
Pes. (15%)  216 34   51   7 1   8 24 29 63   1 .236 .335 .389
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Dan Szymborski Posted: November 28, 2006 at 03:36 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Oriole Tragic is totally awesome in the postseason Posted: November 28, 2006 at 04:33 PM (#2247365)
Wow, his power is leaving the building in a hurry.

At that rate, he'll really be useful to the Indians in 2008-9 if they can move him after 2007.
   2. Excel Hearts Choi Posted: November 28, 2006 at 06:19 PM (#2247489)
What's the deal with the decreasing walks? Word in Texas was that the laser eye surgery accounted for the spike in walks (.147/PA in 2005), but were down in Philly (.093 in 2006). Do you have projected walk rates for Dellucci? I'd be interested in what Zips has to say.
   3. G A Delgado Posted: November 28, 2006 at 10:34 PM (#2247741)
Another guy I would have liked the Padres to grab (either him or Cattalanoto).

Oh well, at least we have Counsell.....

*cries*
   4. drea Posted: November 28, 2006 at 10:53 PM (#2247774)
What does this do to Shin-Soo Choo? Does he have the arm for right field (should the Indians find a way to move Blake)? I remember there being concerns about his defensive prowess among some in the Seattle organization, and I wonder if his somewhat useful bat will not be wasted because of this move. The contract terms for Dellucci are shockingly modest, but I'm not quite sure how he fits when there's a younger, cheaper, more projectable version of him in Choo already sitting on the roster.
   5. Astro-Bonilla Posted: November 29, 2006 at 11:14 AM (#2248283)
What does this do to Shin-Soo Choo?
All signs point to Choo starting and Blake being the odd man out.

Anyway, this is a great signing. His EQA over the last two years is better than Carlos Lee's, and while he may not be the better bet going foward, he definitely is the skinnier bet.
   6. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: November 29, 2006 at 12:31 PM (#2248286)
I'm not entirely sure this means anything to Shin-Soo Choo:

Dellucci, career vs. RHP: .271/.359/.468 .827
Dellucci, career vs. LHP: .208/.272/.315 .587

Michaels, career vs. LHP: .303/.387/.464 .851
Michaels, career vs. RHP: .268/.342/.394 .736

Choo, MLB career vs. RHP: .267/.355/.447 .802
Choo, MLB career vs. LHP: .200/.259/.200 .459

Choo, '06 minors vs. RHP: .361/.433/.578 1.011
Choo, '06 minors vs. LHP: .192/.256/.218 .474

Neither Dellucci nor Choo can hit LHP, Michaels isn't all that good against RHP. IMO, unless there's a trade, all signs point to a Dellucci-Michaels platoon in left, a Choo-Blake platoon in right, and a Blake-Garko platoon at first.
   7. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 29, 2006 at 04:52 PM (#2248419)
Of course, you can't just meld together Dellucci against RHP and Michaels against LHP - if you look at strict platoons throughout history, it's a lot easier to protect the lefty against lefties than the righty against righties. It seems to be pretty hard to get the righty below 25% righty pitchers while the left half can be cut down to under 10%.

Using 75/25 and 90/10 and assuming that the r/l split is 72/28 as it was in the AL this season, giving the platoon 600 plate appearances (the two won't play every inning and #6 lineup spots averaged 667 plate appearances, #7, 646), here's what I get for a strict Davon Millucci:

Davon Millucci - 273/358/453
Carlos Lee - 288/344/485

Michaels is arbitration eligible, but triple his 2006 salary to be generous and Millucci makes just over $8 million a year, still half that of Carlos Lee.

There are of course, downsides over using a platoon in that it takes up an extra roster spot and you need 2 players to stay healthy instead of 1. The extra roster spot isn't a huge problem, though - while Dellucci shouldn't be hitting lefties, Michaels can handle righties and centerfield enough that he can be a valuable 4th outfielder when Dellucci is playing.
   8. drea Posted: November 29, 2006 at 07:57 PM (#2248508)
That's good to hear. I was under the impression that Blake would continue to get the majority of the at-bats out there, but if Choo can get the lion-share of the RF at-bats, Cleveland's corner spots might produce like their up-the-middle position players.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 29, 2006 at 08:00 PM (#2248511)

There are of course, downsides over using a platoon in that it takes up an extra roster spot


Bad news for Lou Merloni!
   10. peter21 Posted: December 01, 2006 at 12:15 AM (#2248627)
Also, interestingly, Franklin Gutierrez's AAA splits from 2006:

.320/.413/.583 versus lefties (103 at-bats)
.269/.362/.378 versus righties (249 at-bats)

Obviously, it's a small sample size, but a Franklin Gutierrez/Shin-Soo Choo platoon in right would be solid offensively and tremendous defensively.

Plus, we could call it Frank-Soo GuChoo.


http://cleveland--indians.blogspot.com/
   11. 1k5v3L Posted: December 02, 2006 at 07:24 PM (#2250083)
More Indians news from rotoworld:

Indians signed RHP Roberto Hernandez, who had been with the Mets, to a one-year contract with a club option for 2008.
Reports had him being guaranteed $3.5 million under the terms of the deal. Hernandez had a 3.11 ERA in 63 2/3 innings with the Pirates and Mets last season and was even better in 2005. However, the 42-year-old hasn't pitched in the AL in five years and he had a 4.33 ERA in his final season with the Royals. As things stand now, he's probably the favorite to open the season as Cleveland's closer. However, the team would much prefer to use him as a setup man.

Indians signed LHP Aaron Fultz, who had been with the Phillies, to a one-year contract with a club option for 2008.
The Indians almost surely had this deal done before Friday's arbitration deadline. Fultz, a Type A free agent, wasn't extended an offer of arbitration, so the Indians won't have to give up another draft pick. Fultz's ERA jumped from 2.24 to 4.54 last season, but he still had a nice 62/28 K/BB ratio in 71 1/3 innings. Lefties have hit .240 off him in his career. There hasn't been any word on the cash yet, but we're guessing it's somewhere around $2 million. Since it's just a one-year commitment, it's a pretty good signing.
Source: Indians.mlb.com
   12. 1k5v3L Posted: December 02, 2006 at 07:26 PM (#2250087)
Tracy Ringolsby from the Denver Post floated a trade idea/rumor of the Dbacks offering Dustin Nippert and Juan Cruz for Jake Westbrook. What do Indians fans (the smart ones :) think of this?
   13. PanRains Posted: December 02, 2006 at 10:44 PM (#2250206)
Tracy Ringolsby from the Denver Post floated a trade idea/rumor of the Dbacks offering Dustin Nippert and Juan Cruz for Jake Westbrook. What do Indians fans (the smart ones :) think of this?


I'm not sure I'm one of the smarter ones, but I'll weigh in.

I don't think I like it. I like Nippert, and I like Cruz, but I think Westbrook has a lot of value in this environment. I don't think he'll appear on your Cy Young ballot, but he's about as good a bet for 200 innings of league average ball, and on a team that fancies itself a contender, I think you have to have a good reason to trade someone like that.

Now, I'd like to acquire Nippert and I wouldn't mind Cruz, but I'd need more than that to divest myself of Westbrook.

Now, if come July the Tribe is out of it, I wouldn't mind something like this, but even at that, I'd think that Westbrook would have more trade value than that. I don't know, maybe I'm just overvaluing Jake and undervaluing that package.
   14. peter21 Posted: December 04, 2006 at 11:05 PM (#2251597)
Westbrook has been the picture of consistency over the last three years.

YEAR IP BB K HR ERA
2004 215 61 116 19 3.38
2005 210 56 119 19 4.49
2006 211 55 109 15 4.17

In this market, this kind of consistent, durable, league-average production is extremely valuable...especially given the explosion in the market for starting pitching in general. Like PanRains said above, I would love to acquire Nippert, and wouldn't mind getting Cruz, but if Westbrook were put on the market, I believe he would command a lot more in return.
   15. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: December 04, 2006 at 11:26 PM (#2251613)
Word in Texas was that the laser eye surgery accounted for the spike in walks (.147/PA in 2005)

I remember hearing that spin too. Maybe he could only afford the 60-day Lasik procedure:

MONTH IsoBB
APR .181
MAY .187
JUN .089
JUL .113
AUG .062
SEP .066

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