Mariners - Acquired Wilson and Snell
Seattle Mariners - Acquired SS Jack Wilson and P Ian Snell from the Pittsburgh Pirates for C-DH Jeff Clement, SS Ronny Cedeno, P Aaron Pribanic, P Brett Lorin, and P Nathan Adcock.
Given the half-hearted way the Mariners included Clement in their future plans, the only surprising thing is that it took them this long to send him away. Wilson’s excellent defensively but while none of the other players in the trade are in the top dozen or so Mariner prospects, I don’t really think the Mariners should be buying at this point. It’s a pretty big package to give up for limited time of Jack Wilson and a #5 starter.
Cedeno’s in this package just to fill out a lineup card for 2 months.
Sadly for Clement, Pittsburgh isn’t the best fit for him, either. He almost certainly hits better than Garrett Jones going forward, but Jones has bashed his way into becoming the incumbent starter. And given that it took the Pirates years to give a shot to Doumit, a less-bad defensive catcher who had hit in the majors already, Clement probably bides time until a team that actually wants to play him claims him on waivers.
The new regime in Seattle is much improved, but I’m not a fan of this acquisition.
2009 ZIPS Projection - Jack Wilson
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Year-to-Date 266 26 71 18 1 4 31 15 31 2 .267 .304 .387
Rest-of-Year 171 18 45 9 0 2 15 11 21 1 .260 .309 .357
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Total 437 44 116 27 1 6 46 26 52 3 .264 .306 .375
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2009 ZIPS Projection - Ronny Cedeno
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Year-to-Date 186 15 31 4 2 5 17 10 50 3 .167 .213 .290
Rest-of-Year 135 15 33 6 1 3 15 7 26 2 .243 .284 .365
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Total 321 30 64 10 3 8 32 17 76 5 .199 .243 .322
2009 ZIPS Projection - Jeff Clement
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Year-to-Date 377 52 96 26 2 10 52 33 86 1 .255 .318 .414
Rest-of-Year 204 27 53 14 1 7 31 18 40 0 .260 .328 .442
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2009 ZIPS Projection - Ian Snell
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W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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Year-to-Date 5 9 21 21 115.7 117 59 7 60 86 4.59
Rest-of-Year 3 6 13 13 70.3 79 41 8 38 61 5.25
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Year-to-date totals include minor-league translations, if applicable.
Dan Szymborski
Posted: July 29, 2009 at 04:43 PM |
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1. Zoppity Zoop Posted: July 29, 2009 at 05:01 PM (#3272402)As a 1B/DH type, it looks like he's Munsoned.
Wilson's contract:
# 09:$7.25M, 10:$8.4M club option ($0.6M buyout)
# limited no-trade clause 2007-09, allowing Wilson to block deals to 6 clubs each season
Snell's deal:
# 09:$3M, 10:$4.25M, 11:$6.75M club option, 12:$9.25M club option
Looks like they hope to fix Snell.
If his success in Iowa is due to the home park's proximity to a river, this could turn out to be a great trade for the Pirates.
They're just trying to build the team's asset base right now. Thinking about it in terms of how the pieces fit doesn't make sense at this point, when they have so few actual pieces of value.
Clement's headed for Indianapolis, which is just a head scratcher, really. I was actually assuming this trade was the latest (final?) signal the Pirates hate Steve Pearce.
I should note that much of the reluctance to use Doumit as a C was coming from the Littlefield-era personnel. When Huntington and Co. came in, they declared an open competition for the catching job, and then gave it to Doumit when he played well in spring training.
If Clement can catch, I think they'll let him.
So if they DID promote Clement immediately, you'd bash them for not giving Pearce his shot?
Man, you're never happy, are you?
Based on his defense, is Wilson worth anything close to $8.4M?
Even if they don't fix him, that's not anything approaching a crippler of a deal. Most teams can afford a bad contract which maxes out at $6.75M. At worst, they end up with a back of the rotation starter.
I'm just hoping there's a plan here besides 'keep Clement as a AAAA guy in case someone gets hurt until we can trade him'.
Pearce is 26 and has been OPS'ing .875 in AAA. He really ought to be given 400+ PA's in the majors some year soon to see what he does with them, but he looks like just a guy to me. I don't lose sleep over burying him.
I don't know. I'd say Jones is a prolonged cold streak away from being sent back down should either Pearce or Clement look better.
I like this deal for the Pirates. They traded two old-regime guys for a bevy of loot.
Clement made a lot more sense for an AL team where he could be a 1B/DH.
Yeah, but 'prolonged' in this case basically means 'through the end of the 2009 season'. Barring injury, I expect Jones will remain a regular through the end of this season no matter how badly he hits, maybe losing some PT in September when the rosters expand and Clement comes up. Then they'll sort it out next spring.
Think we have the answer on why he won't be playing 1B.
I don't feel that Pearce is really in the team's plans at all.
It's already been mentioned, but...
1. Clement isn't really a passable catcher and...
2. The Mariners see Adam Moore as their future catcher. His highest offensive upside will never be what Clement's could be, but his defense is much better than Clement's defense.
3. Not really following on from the first 2 points, but Pittsburgh needs talent in their system, as someone above pointed out, and acquiring as much potential talent as they can is a wise move. I'm personally sad to see Clement go, and I don't really think he has a place to play in Pittsburgh, but they could use him to fetch something else of value down the road.
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