Mets - Reportedly Acquired Delgado
New York Mets - Have reportedly acquired 1B Carlos Delgado and $7 million for P Yusmeiro Petit and 1B-C Mike Jacobs.
I feel that both teams get a fair return in light of their goals for the upcoming season. The Marlins get a very good year out of Delgado and when it looks like their core is higher in cost than in wins, move him out for younger blood and shed the cost of Delgado, not to mention the risk of him aging. The Mets didn’t just have a bad situation at 1B - their first basemen combined to hit 227/303/391 and the relative quality of that line is only due to Mike Jacobs’ insane hitting spree after being called up. Mike Jacobs will never be more valuable than he is now and while Petit is a very good pitching prospect, I don’t think that he has the upside of a guy like Anibal Sanchez.
In one of the old Elias Baseball Analysts, around 1990 or so, they showed that teams with big weaknesses were more likely to improve greatly the following season than balanced, mediocre teams. Delgado is of the quality and 1B was a big enough hole that this could be enough to make the Mets the favorite. Delgado fills an even bigger hole than Josh Beckett fills for the Red Sox.
2006 ZiPS Projections
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Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Jacobs 468 62 125 26 1 22 79 31 104 1 .267 .318 .468
Delgado 508 81 146 37 1 29 107 81 129 0 .287 .398 .535
2006 ZiPS Projections
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Player W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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Petit 8 8 25 25 130 124 64 24 34 133 4.43
Dan Szymborski
Posted: November 23, 2005 at 10:18 PM |
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1. CraigK Posted: November 23, 2005 at 10:46 PM (#1744595)albeit with the marlins, but...
Home runs may have a way of simply dying in Shea, but Pro Player kills everything.
I'm speecheless.
With both the Mets and Phils on the move and hot after Wagner, we're going to experience an actual "rivalry" with Philly for like, the first time ever.
What are you talking about, Roadblock? The Phillies finished second in 1986. I'm not sure I'll ever forget the tension coming down the stretch of that desperate, taut duel . . . and the exhileration of finally clinching. Since then, a Phillie uniform has always stirred my competitive juices.
now if they can get Hernandez instead of Molina, and find something that isn't miguel cairo horrible at 2b, they've got a really good offense.
reyes
beltran
delgado
wright
floyd
nady/diaz
hernandez
matsui/anderson/keppinger/livebody
pitcher
and add wagner to the bullpen trio of bell, heilman, and kool aid, and all you need is a loogy and swingman to have a pretty good bullpen to go with a quality starting rotation of pedro/glavine/benson/seo/traschel. rock on.
btw: Omar always gets his man!
that's just mean, sam.
Awesome.
That's a boat-load of HRs for Petit to give up in Dolphins Stadium. Yikes.
meh. that's how many homers Kris Benson gave up in slightly more innings in Shea.
then again, Benson struck out fewer batters than petit is projected. so it's even.
[nothing like a sense of perspective for mets fans.]
Few Mets fans have sense let alone perspective. And of the few that do, when they start losing both, it's time to start high-tailing it elsewhere.
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trevise
I wonder how much that prospect would weigh in negotiations.
That clause has never been used, right?
Javy Vazquez used it.
Well, you still have to wonder what they're going to do with Nady, now that he's no longer in the running for platoon 1B. I guess he'll be either competition for Victor Diaz in RF or a fourth outfielder, and either one seems like a small return for Cameron. Of course, it's highly possible that no one was interested in Cameron because of the injury ... but you have to wonder if the Mets mightn't have been able to move Cameron for a 2B somewhere ...
I doubt the Mets will get to keep the full $7M from the Marlins if they trade him. It's supposed to be paid out in two or three installments, and I suspect the payments will follow him and his contract if/when he's traded.
Rickey Henderson did in the movie "Little Big League", but the Twins passed. Their GM was a moron, and a kid.
So he whined all season with the Giants that he'd rather retire than pitch for the Giants, was traded to the Yankees, whined some more, was released and signed by the Blue Jays, and then whined some more.
Eventually, he was traded back to Atlanta and after going to the Tigers, was offered a 2-year deal for $2.5 million, which he turned down. Then collusion hit and he ended up signing with the Tigers for $500,000 for 1 year instead.
If you're not going to win next year, why does it matter if you trade a guy within your own division? Especially when you're getting back an excellent pitching prospect and a decent hitter in return? (This is more amazing considering there was very limited interest in Delgado besides from the Mets)...
As Omar has pointed out, teams that are bidding for Paul Konerko, but lose out, would quite likely have turned their attention to Delgado. It's also quite possible the Red Sox would have gotten into the hunt if they were able to deal Manny. Maybe Minaya was over-anticipating this series of events, but it's better to be ahead of the curve than behind it, and then find yourself having to pay even a higher price.
From the Mets' POV, the price was high but not exorbitant. Jacobs, obviously, became completely extraneous upon the acquisition of Delgado (especially since they now have Nady as injury insurance). So really, the price was Petit -- a valuable player, obviously, but one whom they could afford to deal in light of the organizational depth (majors and minors) in starting pitching.
Something tells me the Mets have third base covered for the next little while. And even putting David Wright aside for the moment, I have a hard time getting too worked up about a 23-year old who hasn't played a day above A ball (and only 34 games above low-A ball). Yawn.
It's not like the Marlins have never before traded a superstar to the Mets before...
Now on a totally unrelated note, what do the Mets intend to do for a starting catcher in 2006?
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