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Saturday, December 17, 2005

M’s - Reportedly Close to Signing Washburn

Seattle Mariners - Reportedly are nearing terms on a contract with P Jarrod Washburn.

This is supposedly all but done now, for 4 years in the 9 per range. The Mariners are a really hard rotation to upgrade - they obviously can’t do any better than Felix and the rest of the pitchers are generally mediocrities. Washburn is a little better than that, but he’s not going to really enough to push the Mariners up in the standings. A full season of King Felix pitching well, Rafael Soriano being healthy, and Johjima hitting well (anything from catcher is a massive upgrade) are going to determine if the Mariners can battle for 3rd. At this point, pitching-wise, the best the Mariners can probably do now is go into the season with Hernandez-Moyer-Washburn-Meche-Pineiro with Foppert in the pen, Franklin dumped for a 26-year-old A-ball reliever or non-tendered, and watch Bobby Livingston’s performance in Tacoma closely.

This still smells like a 4th-place team to me.

2006 ZiPS Projection - Jarrod Washburn
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W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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9 10 29 29 176 183 89 23 51 102 4.55

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 17, 2005 at 02:45 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. bookbook Posted: December 17, 2005 at 06:20 AM (#1781367)

Don't tell that to the fine folks at USS Mariner.

I just realized: Carl Everett and the city that brought us Intelligent Design is a match made in heaven! Certainly, if old Chuck Darwin were running things, he wouldn't have made it happen.

(Seriously, why does a liberal town like Seattle get - and fall in love with - rampant reactionaries like Dan Wilson and Lou Piniella?)

2. NTNgod Posted: December 17, 2005 at 06:38 AM (#1781397)

Seriously, why does a liberal town like Seattle get - and fall in love with - rampant reactionaries like Dan Wilson and Lou Piniella?

Well, it's a liberal town whose local economy has derived a lot of money from defense contractors, so things probably aren't as straightforward as they seem :)

3. Derrick Jensen Posted: December 17, 2005 at 06:45 AM (#1781414)

Hey Bookbook,

You wrote:
Seriously, why does a liberal town like Seattle get - and fall in love with - rampant reactionaries like Dan Wilson and Lou Piniella?)

**

I don't know much about either of their politics? What's the story?

Derrick

4. Spivey Posted: December 17, 2005 at 08:20 AM (#1781528)

Wow, what a waste of money. Seattle is great at wasting money.

5. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: December 17, 2005 at 09:25 AM (#1781588)

Is Soriano finished as a starter? Can they really count on Meche?

6. Jim Wisinski

Posted: December 17, 2005 at 04:40 PM (#1781668)

In a couple years the Mariners are probably going to be paying $9 million to the new Mark Hendrickson.

7. Didi Dodo Doodoo (1k5v3L)

Posted: December 17, 2005 at 06:22 PM (#1781768)

The Mariners will keep Gil Meche and only non-tender Ryan Franklin next week, according to the Seattle Times.

Maybe they'll change their minds if they acquire Bronson Arroyo from Boston. Another possibility the Times throws out there is that the Mariners could include Meche in a deal with Boston in order to free up salary to land Matt Clement. That seems like a longshot. Meche will probably earn $3 million-$4 million in arbitration. The Washburn acquisition makes him no better than Seattle's fifth starter. Dec. 17 - 3:42 am et
Source: Seattle Times

8. OlePerfesser Posted: December 17, 2005 at 10:18 PM (#1782016)

This still smells like a 4th-place team to me.

What did you do with Szymborski? A real Oracle would be able to divine the massive improvement in everybody's productivity that will flow from having Carl Everett in the clubhouse. Fire and brimstone, on display daily! 110% x previous level of effort ==> 116 wins!

[/sarcasm]

9. Dan Szymborski

Posted: December 17, 2005 at 10:48 PM (#1782043)

I guess the Mariners could get more productivity by simply not paying Everett. First time he asks where his paycheck is, Bavasi should inform Everett that direct deposit and checks aren't in the bible.

10. DCW3 Posted: December 18, 2005 at 12:51 AM (#1782140)

Render unto Carl the things which are Carl's.

11. Harveys Wallbangers

Posted: December 19, 2005 at 08:00 PM (#1784730)

Bavasi really should be commended for his outstanding work at gravy-training on the family name.

This offseason has been a disgrace. I can certainly IMAGINE worse work but as Gabe Paul is dead and Tommy LaSorda is busily working to undermine any positive efforts at rebuilding the Dodgers I am unaware of anyone capable of matching Bavasi's ineptitude.

I like Washburn. Went to UW-Oshkosh and parlayed a fastball and some control into a decent career. But his fastball, such as it is, is tater-bait these days. Safeco will help HIM but I have serious doubts as to how much HE will help the M's.

I am open to suggestions as to what guiding principle Bavasi is following that explains his moves.

Other than "How to Make Seattle S*ck".

HW

12. Didi Dodo Doodoo (1k5v3L)

Posted: December 19, 2005 at 08:16 PM (#1784773)

And I thought the word around baseball was that the M's are sabr friendly, with the Orkin guy on board. I wonder if Bavasi even listens to the guy...

13. jsandman32 Posted: December 20, 2005 at 09:00 AM (#1785970)

They have a consultant in Mat Olkin (who lives in NJ, and doesn't have an office in Seattle at all), but I bet most teams have a stat guy/consultant as well. Bavasi is very much not a stat GM, his basis is in scouting, and thats what he puts his most faith in.

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