New York Mets - Ink Wagner, Buy Redman
New York Mets - Signed P Billy Wagner to a 4-year contract worth $43 million; purchased the contract of OF Tike Redman from the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Like the B.J. Ryan signing, the Mets are overpaying for true excellence. I still feel Wagner’s riskier than Ryan - more miles in the arm, older, and more of an injury history. He still should be terrific, however. No surprises with this contract as Wagner to Shea has been considered all-but-done for awhile now.
Tike Redman isn’t suited for a starting role in center, but as a 4th or 5th outfielder as long as you don’t need a defensive caddy in center, he’s quite adequate. The Pirates were just going to dump him anyway, so the Mets probably aren’t paying much for his rights.
2006 ZiPS Projection - Tike Redman
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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486 58 137 19 5 5 50 31 42 13 .282 .326 .372
2006 ZiPS Projection - Billy Wagner
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W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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5 1 70 0 71 51 20 6 19 82 2.54
Dan Szymborski
Posted: November 29, 2005 at 01:04 AM |
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1. 1k5v3Lif redman gets 486 at bats in 06, mets fans here will commit mass suicide...
[i know, dan, i know.]
Still, the Blue Jays screwed us with the Ryan contract. I think it's probably the market for Wagner... he's more established as a "proven closer" than Ryan.
I would prefer the Ryan contract though.
No. That move makes little sense to me. Must be defensive stuff that I'm missing.
No. That move makes little sense to me. Must be defensive stuff that I'm missing.
And that Omar is getting? They're both speedy black guys. No way Omar's metrics are more advanced than that.
At least for the Mets, Wagner (along with Delgado and possibly Ramirez) represents the missing piece they likely need to end the Braves' run atop the NL East. The Jays are a couple major components from being a serious threat, IMHO. So if you have to overpay for an ace reliever, the Mets are in the right point in the success cycle to make that sort of move.
Owners/GMs are so stupid and there's so much money out there that Szym is probably going to be surprised at every signing. we're seeing in action the exact behavior described in Lords of the Realm...every time the owners get money, they get stupid with the free agents. I think I read somewhere that the Cubs wil give Furcal'll a hundred million. And the 3/30 everyone has Giles down for to sign with their team is looking unrealistic.
Hmm, so will TO be Omar's next target? He'll have some free time this winter to work in the batting cage. He'd be one helluva defensive outfielder.
I'd definitely take my chances with one of the next tier of closers on the market like Hoffman or Gordon, and pocket two picks (including a division rival's first-rounder) and a sizable chunk of change. Score another one for Pat Gillick.
My dictionary: Omar Minaya--over excited gm to finally have a major budget to play with decides to deplete the farm system and sacrifice future picks to avoid replenishing the farm. i.e. nightmare gm
Hmm, so will TO be Omar's next target? He'll have some free time this winter to work in the batting cage. He'd be one helluva defensive outfielder.
Don't think that Omar wouldn't do it for the network.
Subjectively, Tike is a horrible defender. Slow reactions, poor routes, and the worst throwing arm on a team that also had Matt Lawton last year. His good pure speed is his only asset in the field.
My joy at getting this bum off our roster is large enough to overwhelm my rage at the image of McClatchy and the Nuttings further fattening their wallets.
Very true, and very prescient. Lo and behold, everyone decries the lunacy of the Blue Jays offer to Giles.
How strange? I thought it was How High?
What am I, chopped liver? Not everyone decried it! ;-)
this is correct.
i suppose redman will have to replace lastings in the hearts of mets fans.
Ouch.
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