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— A Timely Look at Transactions as They Happen

Tuesday, December 11, 2001

New York Mets Updated

Acquired 2B Roberto Alomar, P Mike Bacsik and OF Danny Peoples for OF Matt Lawton, OF Alex Escobar, P Jerrod Riggan and two players to be named later.

Billy Traber is one of the players to be named later

Given the moves already made by the Mets, this was probably one of the better ideas to fill the newly created hole.  It sure seems, however, that the Mets did a ton of shuffling to get rid of Robin Ventura.  Bacsik, Peoples, and Riggan are pretty much throw-ins with Escobar, of course, being the key prospect here with Bacsik maybe being interesting.  Escobar’s been plenty hyped and unlike Corey Patterson, hasn’t been downright horrible.  Still, he’s looking a lot like Ryan Thompson performance-wise and while he does have tremendous tools that could someday come back to haunt him like Jermaine Dye, it’s a pretty big if and Alomar’s a pretty nice player to have on your team, which also takes the sting away from losing Lawton. 

This trade is much harder to justify from the Indians’ perspective.  They take one hole and fill it to a degree less than the new hole was previously filled.  If that makes any sense.

Escobar, Alex ? MLE Record
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Year PO Age Team   Lv   AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB   SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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2000 OF 21 BING   AA 413 65 102 21 4 11 47 42 120 15 .248 .325 .397
2001 OF 22 NORF   AAA 386 50   95 19 3 10 44 31 153 11 .246 .303 .388


Since I posted this, Billy Traber was named as one of the players to be named later, which helps the Indians a bit since Traber’s a real prospect and not some guy like Jorge Velandia, to throw out a completely random name.  Still, Traber’s a pitching prospect and he hasn’t thrown out one of those freaky good Roy Oswalt seasons, so I still give the edge to the Mets.

And, by request:

Traber, Billy - Rough MLE Record
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Year   Age Team   Lv   W   L   G GS     IP   H   ER   HR   BB   SO   ERA
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2001   21 BING   AA   3   4   8   8   42.2   53   26   4   14   43   5.48
2001   21 NORF   AAA   1   0   1   1   7.0   6   1   0   0   0   1.29

Bacsik, Mike - Rough MLE Record
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Year   Age Team   Lv   W   L   G GS     IP   H   ER   HR   BB   SO   ERA
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1999   21 AKRON AA   6 16   26 26   149.1 197 132   33   54   80   7.95
2000   22 BUFF   AAA   1   2   5   5   29.0   35   24   9   8   9   7.36
2000   22 AKRON AA   3   4   11 11   71.1   73   33   4   17   42   4.21
2001   23 AKRON AA   1   1   4   4   27.1   25   10   3   3   18   3.44
2001   24 BUFF   AAA   8   9   21 20   121.1 132   67   16   28   77   4.98

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 11, 2001 at 05:31 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: December 11, 2001 at 05:47 PM (#552058)
of course, Escobar was a 22 year old at Triple-A......he may be toolsy, but as tools prospects go he was one of the best in the game. I'll crossing my fingers, hoping he turns out to be nothing...
   2. Brian Posted: December 11, 2001 at 09:16 PM (#552063)
What's the LIMA plan?
   3. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: December 11, 2001 at 09:25 PM (#552064)
I knew there was a reason I heard "Eve of Destruction" on the radio the night before the 2000 Series started

Does that make Bobby Valentine the Stathead Bill Maxwell? ("All right, Steve, here's the scenario...") Why isn't that show on in reruns somewhere? Arrrggghh.
   4. Old Matt Posted: December 11, 2001 at 09:52 PM (#552065)
At least Phillips didn't trade for Juan Freakin' Encarnacion.

Pitching, Jim Bowden...the Reds need PITCHING.
   5. Robert Dudek Posted: December 12, 2001 at 03:02 AM (#552068)
Right now I'd rather have Alomar. Over the next 3 or 4 years its a tough call: Kent or Little Giles probably.

I think the Steve Phillips conundrum may be explained by a mid-season Neyer article. The mainstream face of sabermetrics suggested that someone named Steve in the Mets organization asked Rob why the Mets were losing. Rob dutifully pointed out that you can't score runs unless you've got guys on base and that the Mets outfielders are crap.

So Steve must have taken this to heart because soon after Matt Lawton was acquired. They made a nice run but fell short.
   6. Big Ed Posted: December 12, 2001 at 03:23 PM (#552073)
As a White Sox fan, I like this trade. The Tribe gave up the best 2B in MLB for an good outfielder and potential. Right now I'd say the Indians did not improve themselves. Long haul maybe, but this helps the White Sox in 2002.
   7. Greg Franklin Posted: December 13, 2001 at 03:05 AM (#552079)
Brian, LIMA plan = "Low Investment Mound Aces plan", a rotogeek term. (Caveat: I am a rotogeek.) From http://www.fantasybaseballcentral.com/strategy.html :

By using selected pitching stats [you] project pitchers that will do well the upcoming season, many of which that are unknown to most. It also requires only using two or three starters. Thus, money is saved for hitting. The breakdown is 60 for pitching 200 for hitting.

I wonder if any real ML teams match the 10/3 ratio (batter salary / pitcher salary) postulated by the LIMA plan.
   8. Big Ed Posted: December 13, 2001 at 03:31 PM (#552081)
The White Sox have a good chance of that. Veteran hitters, young pitchers. The Sox are always willing to pay for hitting, but prefer their pitchers young and in bucketfuls. I'll try to find some numbers somewhere. But off the top of my head, big salaries (>$3MM) included Thomas, Ordonez, Durham, Valentin, Clayton, maybe Konerko, Wells the elder, and Foulke.

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