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Saturday, July 30, 2005

Orioles - Acquired Byrnes

Baltimore Orioles - Acquired OF Eric Byrnes from the Colorado Rockies for OF Larry Bigbie.

I like this trade for the short-term.  Byrnes is a better hitter than Bigbie, but despite how hard he tries out there, he’s not a very good defensive leftfielder.  There’s no problem with that this season.  My worry is that Byrnes is the type of player that the Orioles fans and front office will absolutely just fall in love with.

Trade doesn’t do much for the Rockies other than save some dough.

2005 ZiPS Projection - Larry Bigbie
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Period     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Actual ‘05 205 22   51   9 1   5 21 21 48   3 .249 .316 .376
Rest ‘05   138 22   39   8 1   4 18 16 30   1 .283 .357 .442
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Total ‘05 343 44   90 17 2   9 39 37 78   4 .262 .332 .402

 

2005 ZiPS Projection - Eric Byrnes
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Period     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Actual ‘05 241 32   61 17 2   7 29 21 37   4 .253 .330 .427
Rest ‘05   155 24   43 11 1   5 21 14 27   2 .277 .349 .458
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Total ‘05 396 56 104 28 3 12 50 35 64   6 .263 .338 .439

Dan Szymborski Posted: July 30, 2005 at 03:05 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Wilpons Must Go (Tom D) Posted: July 30, 2005 at 03:17 AM (#1509404)
I have Byrnes in my roto league. So, I'm bumming about his leaving Colorado.
   2. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: July 30, 2005 at 03:26 AM (#1509422)
Did Prince Adam even get a chance to unpack in Denver?
   3. Sean Forman Posted: July 30, 2005 at 03:32 AM (#1509435)
I have Bigbie in my scoresheet league. So, I'm juiced about his joining Colorado.
   4. DTS Posted: July 30, 2005 at 03:36 AM (#1509440)
I'd call this a challenge trade.
   5. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney) Posted: July 30, 2005 at 03:38 AM (#1509443)
I think Bigbie and Byrnes are a candidate to be non-tendered in the offseason.
   6. Sparkles Peterson Posted: July 30, 2005 at 04:57 AM (#1509580)
I'd say Byrnes is a better candidate to get a ridiculous, huge contract than to get non-tendered.
   7. Asher87 Posted: July 30, 2005 at 05:03 AM (#1509597)
If I were the Rockies, I would've tried harder to unload Dustan Mohr before Byrnes.
   8. bibigon Posted: July 30, 2005 at 05:18 AM (#1509636)
Bigbie has been sent to the Red Sox for Stern and Shoppach.


Linkage

I'm pretty sure I hate this deal.
   9. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: July 30, 2005 at 07:39 AM (#1509869)
So Byrnes had in his contract a $25K bonus if he got traded. Did he get this twice?
   10. bookbook Posted: July 30, 2005 at 12:21 PM (#1509939)
25K?

That's meal money. Give it to him four times
   11. Darren Posted: July 30, 2005 at 01:30 PM (#1509985)
Is that Bigbie projection for Coors? Its way too low considering his line coming into this year was projected to be .288.357.438.
   12. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: July 30, 2005 at 02:40 PM (#1510028)
If the Rox get Shoppach and Stern, that's a pretty good return on Byrnes and his $2.2M contract. Not sure why the Red Sox would do this.
   13. fables of the deconstruction Posted: July 30, 2005 at 08:25 PM (#1510931)
Bigbie has been sent to the Red Sox for Stern and Shoppach.

My question is how likely is it that Shoppach might eventually be a regular...? It seems to me the O's are doing deals for short term expediency without considering intermediate or long term implications. The O's probably should have dealt with the Sox directly. I would think Shoppach would make a better back-up for Lopez than either Fasano or Gil. Since it looks like they've crapped out for 2005, they should have a toe in the water but realistically be focusing on 2006. With that in mind, does Byrnes fit in for 2006? My worry is the same as Dan's...

Beatagan... beat again!!!

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trevise
   14. Denny Lemaster Cylinder Posted: July 30, 2005 at 08:38 PM (#1510966)
In re: Byrnes

Flip!
   15. RP Posted: July 30, 2005 at 09:23 PM (#1511085)
The O's probably should have dealt with the Sox directly.

I can't say I'm thrilled with the Bigbie/Byrnes deal, but what makes you think the Red Sox would have traded Shoppach to the Orioles? I can't remember a significant trade between the Red Sox and Orioles since Boddicker for Anderson and Schilling, and the Orioles were terrible then and no threat to the Red Sox.
   16. fables of the deconstruction Posted: July 30, 2005 at 10:15 PM (#1511179)
...but what makes you think the Red Sox would have traded Shoppach to the Orioles?

RP,

I'm not saying the Sox would have done the deal with the O's. But if the rumor mill has that deal out there for another team, the O's were deficient in not trying to get it for themselves. I don't think Byrnes is that great of an improvement over Bigbie, if the Rox are getting a decent back-up catcher and Rule V OF for him... Gil and Fasano are worse sinkholes than Bigbie and Javy Lopez isn't getting any younger. And decent catchers as commodities of much more limited than decent corner OF's. Maybe the O's did a due-diligence, maybe not... I would like to positively know for sure.

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trevise
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 31, 2005 at 12:31 AM (#1511547)
Boston just can't settle on a fourth outfielder, can they?

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