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Transaction Oracle— A Timely Look at Transactions as They Happen
Tuesday, December 06, 2005
Orioles - Acquired Hawkins
Baltimore Orioles - Acquired P LaTroy Hawkins from the San Francisco Giants for P Steve Kline.
A fair, if rather dull trade. Both pitchers have been useful in the past and were disappointments in 2005. Steve Kline gives the Giants another lefty other than Jeff Fassero and Jack Taschner, something they could use since they lost Scott Eyre. The Orioles aren’t deep in bullpen lefties, but they don’t want Kline back after his jerkass outbursts and will be content with either Tim Byrdak or another, yet-to-be-acquired lefty in Kline’s role. Hawkins and Kline are both signed for 2006 only - Kline makes $3 million and Hawkins gets his fully-vested $4.5 million option. Hawkins is probably the better pitcher but is also the more expensive one.
Transactions with explosions and partial nudity are more exciting than unwanted reliever swaps between .500 teams. That is, unless the partial nudity takes place at the GM meetings.
2006 ZiPS Projections ——————————————————————————————-
Player W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA ——————————————————————————————-
Hawkins 6 4 72 0 70 68 31 8 19 54 3.99
Kline 2 4 69 0 58 56 31 7 28 34 4.81
Dan Szymborski
Posted: December 06, 2005 at 11:15 PM | 30 comment(s)
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1. Sean McNally Posted: December 06, 2005 at 11:56 PM (#1764593)That'd be fun to watch!
Hell, partial nudity at GM meetings isn't what it used to be, now that Theo is gone. Sigh.
Brian Sabean at his best. Of course, he had to do that to get a closer, as he had traded Joe Nathan, along with Boof Bonser and F. Liriano, to the Twins just a little while before that. Great moves.
None of them are with the Giants anymore. It's ironic...
At least Matt Cain looks like a keeper. So far, so good...
Parrish was banished to Bowie last year after he walked 17 hitters in 17 innings. The stuff is there, the command isn't. maybe Mazzone could help.
anyway, I like Hawkins as closer better than Julio or a Jones overpay.
That'd be fun to watch!
anyway, I like Hawkins as closer better than Julio or a Jones overpay.
Hey. WAIT!
The Orioles aren't seriously considering using Latroy Hawkins as a closer... Are they???
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trevise
The Orioles aren't seriously considering using Latroy Hawkins as a closer... Are they???
I'm not sure how many save opportunities the Orioles plan on offering said closer. BTW, Hawkins>Julio. Chris Ray is the best of the bunch, but you need one of those proven veterans to be a closer. You know, because Hudson Street is fiction. I mean, with a name like that...
Especially with a name like Huston Street.
Well, I'm not so obstinate to believe I can contradict his obvious superiority in knowledge and experience but, I don't think Leo Mazzone can turn a mudpie into a mousse cake. While Hawkins is an above average to excellent set-up man, he does have a rather inconsistent history as a "de facto" closer. If he's just a "stop-gap" for the 2006 season, I believe it would be better to develop a longer term solution for closer by using Julio or someone else, and use Hawkins in the position where his greatest strength lies -- as a set-up man.
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trevise
I heard Theo was such an active GM that he actually showered with the players after games.
Also heard he was a Never Nude.
You mean "look out Boston and NYC fans sitting in the bleachers when he comes in to pitch the 9th inning." Either that or look out behind the first base bag if he catches a line drive and wants to double a guy off. You figure he can't hit the guy in the head every time.
Hey, the Giants did re-sign Jeff Fassero.
And will probably be the oldest team in the majors this year.
Kline has a career 127 ERA+. In 2001 and 2004, it was over 200. He wasn't really a LOOGY until LaRussa got ahold of him. He's only entering his age 33 season. That projection for him looks totally wack to me. Maybe he's lost it, but last year was largely due to the fact that a guy with a career HR rate of about 1 per 12-13 innings decided to give up 11 in 61 IP.
Still, Hawkins probably is the better pitcher right now despite his much lower career ERA+ (a meager 100).
Baltimore Sun:
The Giants also sent some cash the Orioles' way, believed to be around $900,000, to cover the difference in the two relievers' contracts.
That being said, his K/BB ratio really tumbled in 2005, so Baltimore shouldn't regard him as their best reliever entering the 2006 season.
The numbers have been run ad nauseam on this site every time Hawkins comes up (which, for a while there, was pretty often). The evidence tends to show that he's fine in games where he has at least a 2-run lead. It's the 1-run games where he tends to freeze up and pitch poorly.
Which runs into the whole sample size argument for relievers (we're talking maybe 30-35 appearances over the last few years, which isn't much), which again has been bandied about ad nauseam.
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