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Wednesday, May 25, 2005

Orioles - DLed Javy

Baltimore Orioles - Placed C Javy Lopez to the 15-day DL; activated OF Sammy Sosa.

Javy has had a wretched month of May but he’s an important cog in the O’s offense and a far bigger loss than Sammy Sosa was.  Sosa comes back, but that’s of limited help since he can’t catch.  The Orioles will start Gil and purchase Fasano’s contract again as soon as he clears waivers.  It’s unlikely as it’s doubtful his phone is ringing off the hook for job offers, but Fasanocould declare himself a free agent if he clears waivers.

Dan Szymborski Posted: May 25, 2005 at 12:47 PM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Nobody ##### with DeJesus Posted: May 25, 2005 at 01:27 PM (#1360210)
Couldn't the O's play Fiorentino behind the plate? He was a catcher in college, wasn't he?
   2. SM in DC Posted: May 25, 2005 at 02:55 PM (#1360308)
You hate to p*ss on the injured, but this has been an injury waiting to happen for Lopez...

I've noticed in watching the O's this year, Lopez rests his throwing hand/arm on his right leg while in the crouch, leaving the hand exposed if he doesn't catch the ball.

All it took was one foul tip...

Young catcher take heed, ball that hand up in a fist and tuck it behind your back or your right foot. Protect it, cause it hurts when it gets hit.
   3. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: May 25, 2005 at 03:47 PM (#1360422)
This is probably the closest thing to impacting the pennant race that the Mariners will do all season.
   4. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 25, 2005 at 04:17 PM (#1360492)
Ow. As Dan says, this one hurts.

Unfortunately, the one thing that nobody could dispute about the Orioles before the season was that they lacked depth. Not that many teams have a good backup catcher, but Gil and Fasano? Ugh.

And getting Sosa back is of limited help to the team, though he's obviously going to give us more than Keith Reed.


BTW, if anybody had told me before the season that Brian Roberts would be an MVP candidate, I'd have thought him a loon. Just for the record. If I had known that, I'd have revised my predictions for them upward.
   5. Honkie Kong Posted: May 25, 2005 at 04:25 PM (#1360510)
Lopez rests his throwing hand/arm on his right leg while in the crouch, leaving the hand exposed if he doesn't catch the ball.

Strange that you should mention this. Estrada does pretty much the same, and boy does he take a pounding behind the plate..Maybe its something the Braves emphasise..or fail to emphasise?!
   6. Nuclear Dish Posted: May 25, 2005 at 06:24 PM (#1360815)
Isn't Santiago available? He's as likely to be offensively productive as are Gil or Fasano.

As for Fiorentino, I odn't think 3 games at Florida Atlantic are enough to qualify him as a college catcher, but the O's agree with you to a degree. they've notified him thathe should be prepared to be the emergency catcher until Fasano can be brought back.

That surprises me considering that BJ Surhoff is still there, but I guess with his bad back, they don't want to end his career "prematurely". LOL.
   7. 1k5v3L Posted: May 25, 2005 at 06:29 PM (#1360824)
I thought Santiago is still recovering from the viral infection called "steroids withdrawal"...
   8. SM in DC Posted: May 25, 2005 at 07:00 PM (#1360904)
Strange that you should mention this. Estrada does pretty much the same, and boy does he take a pounding behind the plate..Maybe its something the Braves emphasise..or fail to emphasise?!

It seems like this would be something that young catchers learn in Little League or in high school or college and not something that the Braves would have to teach.

At any rate, kids, do not do as these catchers do - save your hands, do not be lazy, put that meat hand behind your back or below your heel... it's the right way!
   9. Jim Kaat on a hot Gene Roof Posted: May 25, 2005 at 07:06 PM (#1360920)
Dammit, whenever I see these on the hotlinks I read it as "downloaded". Orioles downloaded Javy. That's just wrong.
   10. Kurt Posted: May 25, 2005 at 07:09 PM (#1360927)
Maybe the O's fans can answer a question for me. Replacement Level Gibbons is now up to .279/.320/.564. Does he need to slug .600 to get out of the 9 hole?
   11. Danny Posted: May 25, 2005 at 07:13 PM (#1360936)
He should be moved up farther, especially in Lopez's absence, but Gibbons has just 25 of his 140 AB this year in the 9 hole.
   12. Most Favored Haitian Status Posted: May 25, 2005 at 07:14 PM (#1360939)
Dammit, whenever I see these on the hotlinks I read it as "downloaded". Orioles downloaded Javy. That's just wrong.

At least you don't think of the "down low" like that group of black guys on L&O: SVU. It's not homosexuality, it's just doing it in the butt.
   13. bunyon Posted: May 25, 2005 at 07:16 PM (#1360942)
Strange that you should mention this. Estrada does pretty much the same, and boy does he take a pounding behind the plate..Maybe its something the Braves emphasise..or fail to emphasise?!

I had the same thought, but they came up in different organizations. I can't believe this is something much discussed at the major league level (though, maybe it should be).

On the other hand, Estrada has appeared to be trying harder. He got tagged the other night on the throwing hand with that hand hidden behind his leg. The foul tip took the only trajectory possible to clip him. I mean, a tenth of an inch either way and he doesn't get hit.
   14. rlc Posted: May 25, 2005 at 07:34 PM (#1360987)
Replacement Level Gibbons is now up to .279/.320/.564. Does he need to slug .600 to get out of the 9 hole?

No, he just needs to age 12 years.
   15. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: May 25, 2005 at 08:37 PM (#1361137)
No, he just needs to age 12 years.

That's unfair; with the exception of the weird nostalgia wrt the washed-up Palmeiro and the even weirder fascination with the never-was-any-good Surhoff, the Orioles have pretty much given up on the whole blind-veteran-worship thing the past year or so.
   16. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 25, 2005 at 08:51 PM (#1361179)
Maybe the O's fans can answer a question for me. Replacement Level Gibbons is now up to .279/.320/.564. Does he need to slug .600 to get out of the 9 hole?

When I was complaining about his performance to-date, he was hitting like 300/400!
   17. rlc Posted: May 25, 2005 at 10:09 PM (#1361357)
unfair [...] weird nostalgia wrt [...] Palmeiro and [...] Surhoff

         2   5   6   7   8   9
Palmeiro 2 107  22   6   3   0
Surhoff  2   3  17  46   9   0
Gibbons  0   0   9  69  37  21
   18. Kurt Posted: May 25, 2005 at 10:24 PM (#1361389)
When I was complaining about his performance to-date, he was hitting like 300/400!

Actually, it was more like .300/.470.

The real lesson here is to be careful about a month's worth of stats.

What do you mean, *I'm* basing *my* point on a month and half's worth of stats? I - hey! What's that over there!
   19. Jake Taylor Posted: May 26, 2005 at 03:05 AM (#1362332)
Couldn't the O's play Fiorentino behind the plate? He was a catcher in college, wasn't he?

Yeah, just like the Royals might put Sweeney back behind the plate if their catcher goes down or the Marlins might send Delgado back there if LoDuca gets hurt. I mean, those guys came up as catchers.

I think Fiorentino was a catcher for a few games because some scouts wanted to see if he could catch....and he couldn't. Of course, I think most of them also thought he couldn't hit....and apparently he can, so maybe it's not that crazy an idea.
   20. AJMcCringleberry Posted: May 26, 2005 at 03:32 AM (#1362390)
Who would have guessed Palmeiro would be hitting better than Sosa at this point?
   21. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 26, 2005 at 04:21 AM (#1362489)
I think Fiorentino was a catcher for a few games because some scouts wanted to see if he could catch....and he couldn't. Of course, I think most of them also thought he couldn't hit....and apparently he can, so maybe it's not that crazy an idea.

Now, if we were talking about a team carrying a 3rd catcher, this would be different. While I'd never intentionally want Carlos Delgado catching a game, if there was a 1-in-1000 chance that both my catchers got injured a game (which are shorter odds than most situations), I'd rather have Delgado catch an inning in an emergency than carry a 3rd catcher all the time.
   22. DKDC Posted: May 26, 2005 at 06:00 AM (#1362632)
The silver lining is that Javy will be fresher for the playoffs...

These freak injuries are annoying, but they don't concern me the way the old age joint and muscle injuries that are afflicting the Sox and Yanks would.
   23. Nuclear Dish Posted: May 26, 2005 at 03:51 PM (#1363100)
Maybe the O's fans can answer a question for me. Replacement Level Gibbons is now up to .279/.320/.564. Does he need to slug .600 to get out of the 9 hole?

Don't you know that he's only hitting that well because he's benefitted from Brian Roberts protecting him in the lineup? I mean, the way Roberts has been hitting, you could stick Leeza Gibbons in the 9-hole and she'd put up an .800 OPS.

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