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Thursday, December 08, 2005

Padres - Signed Hoffman

San Diego Padres - Signed P Trevor Hoffman to a 2-year contract.

The terms for this contract are also undisclosed. It’s nice that Trevor Hoffman will now get the all-time save record with his long-time team, but the Padres really need the offense and can’t afford to be losing Mark Loretta, which is apparently what freed up the dough to make this trade possible. Hoffman’s still a good reliever; I just feel this isn’t the best allocation of assets, even with all the franchise player goodness.

2006 ZiPS Projection - Trevor Hoffman
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W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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4 2 56 0 55 47 18 4 11 49 2.95

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 08, 2005 at 05:46 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. Smyly Smile (Walewander) Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:02 AM (#1766897)

From ESPN:

Texas agreed to a $600,000 contract with pitcher John Wasdin.

Pitcher D.J. Carrasco was released by the Royals so he can pursue a chance to play in Japan.

Come on Dan! Big moves happening! Get on it - no Fukuoka Daei Hawks ZIPS for Carrasco yet? For shame.

2. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:03 AM (#1766899)

ESPN says this deal is 2yr, $13.5mil.

3. peter21 Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:07 AM (#1766906)

As an Indians fan, I would like to thank Kevin Towers for making sure the Indians didn't make the mistake of getting Hoffman for 3 years.

4. Dan Szymborski

Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:14 AM (#1766931)

$13.5? Ouch.

5. peter21 Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:15 AM (#1766936)

I read somewhere that it had a vesting option for a third year, is that true?

6. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:16 AM (#1766944)

Not sure, that's all ESPN said. It would make sense there's a vesting option though.

7. Mark Shirk (jsch) Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:21 AM (#1766961)

13.5 isn't that bad, but it does seem to be a misallocation of resources. Honestly if Tom Gordon makes 6mil and Kyle Farnsworth 5.7 mil, then 6.75 for Hoffman ain't that bad all things considered.

8. Dan Szymborski

Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:22 AM (#1766965)

No, actually, I thought I was reading the other undisclosed 2-year contract thread with Todd Jones.

9. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 08, 2005 at 02:07 PM (#1767299)

In a story that has gotten--so far as I can tell--surprisingly little play, if Hoffman matches in 2005 save total next year, he'll pass Lee Smith (by one) for the all-time saves record.

10. Gern Blanston Posted: December 08, 2005 at 02:57 PM (#1767343)

Don't know where I was, but I had no idea Hoffman was that good last season.

11. zonk Posted: December 08, 2005 at 03:14 PM (#1767363)

Is Trevor Hoffman a HOFer? If not, will he be should he stay healthy, effective, and closing for 2 more years?

12. Dan Szymborski

Posted: December 08, 2005 at 03:17 PM (#1767365)

If Hoffman should be in the Hall, but I don't know if he will. You know how writers are; Hoffman may not "feel" like a Hall of Famer in the same way Mariano will.

13. zonk Posted: December 08, 2005 at 03:25 PM (#1767378)

If Hoffman should be in the Hall, but I don't know if he will. You know how writers are; Hoffman may not "feel" like a Hall of Famer in the same way Mariano will.

So you're saying you think he's a HOFer - regardless of what the short bus kids decide to do in 7 years?

Suprising - I know the subject of Hoffman's enshrinement worthiness came up a either last HOF ballot or the one before, and I seem to recall feeling awfully lonely on the support side..... and this from someone with lots of still lingering 84 hatred for the Padres.

14. Dan Szymborski

Posted: December 08, 2005 at 03:44 PM (#1767406)

So you're saying you think he's a HOFer - regardless of what the short bus kids decide to do in 7 years?

Yes, but I also think Quisenberry is a HOFer, so don't expect a lot to agree with me.

15. zonk Posted: December 08, 2005 at 03:57 PM (#1767429)

Yes, but I also think Quisenberry is a HOFer, so don't expect a lot to agree with me.

Separated at birth, I guess -- because I'd agree with that. I'd rather see Quiz in the HOF than Lee Smith, and maybe (almost) as much as Sutter, actually.

16. Mark Shirk (jsch) Posted: December 08, 2005 at 04:31 PM (#1767488)

I don't think that Hoffman will make it, he is surely the 2nd best of his generation after Mariano. Whether or not he should be is a good question. I should have an opinion here being a HOM voter but we have yet to tackle many good relievers yet so I have nothign to compate him to (Firpo Marbury got little support). The only guys I am really for right now are Wilhelm, Goassage, and Mariano. Quis, Eck, and Hoffman are probably the next level.

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