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Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Padres - Signed Piazza

San Diego Padres - Signed C Mike Piazza to a 1-year contract.

This contract pays Piazza $2 million in 2006 and has an $8 million mutual option in 2007, thus, uh, making this a 1-year contract worth $2 million.  This offseason hasn’t quite gone as Piazza had intended, unless of course, his master plan was to try his best to look like he’s done.  Petco is just about the worst place for Piazza and while the other Padre options at catcher are ugly, Piazza’s weak arm is a lot harder to overlook now that his bat isn’t what it used to be.  Well, the quicker he retires, the quicker he’ll get into the Hall of Fame, so it’s not all bad.  Piazza will catch quite a bit and DH when he can.

2006 ZiPS Projection - Mike Piazza
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AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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394 33   89 19 0 15 54 51 65   0 .226 .316 .388

Dan Szymborski Posted: January 31, 2006 at 05:37 PM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. stealfirstbase Posted: January 31, 2006 at 06:24 PM (#1845330)
DH in the national league, huh?
   2. Dewey, Soupuss Not Doomed to Succeed Posted: January 31, 2006 at 06:25 PM (#1845334)
DH in the national league, huh?

He'll have nine opportunities to do so, right?
   3. Lou Patterbrock Posted: January 31, 2006 at 06:50 PM (#1845383)
You might want to retool ZIPS so it doesn't go around predicting .226 for a lifetime .311 hitter.
   4. Spahn Insane Posted: January 31, 2006 at 06:58 PM (#1845401)
Not that I worship at the altar of ZIPS, but it might not be an unreasonable projection for a lifetime .311 hitter who's a 38-year-old catcher going into a terrible hitter's park.
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 31, 2006 at 06:59 PM (#1845407)
Or, alternately, you could leave it so that it's accurate.
   6. Steve G. Posted: January 31, 2006 at 07:00 PM (#1845408)
Yeah, especially for a .311 lifetime hitter that hit .251 last year and is already at (or past) the age where catchers completely fall off the table when it comes to offensive production.

.226/.316/.388 is certainly pessimistic, but I don't think it's unreasonable.
   7. Sam M. Posted: January 31, 2006 at 07:10 PM (#1845422)
If Mike Piazza is hitting .226 after 200 ABs, I'm pretty sure he won't get to 394. He'll pull a Mike Schmidt rather than embarrass himself.
   8. Bored Posted: January 31, 2006 at 07:10 PM (#1845423)
So nothing on Frank Thomas?
   9. Quinton McCracken's BFF Posted: January 31, 2006 at 08:01 PM (#1845530)
If Mike Piazza is hitting .226 after 200 ABs, I'm pretty sure he won't get to 394. He'll pull a Mike Schmidt rather than embarrass himself.

My feelings in a nutshell, unfortunately. I still weep for Michael Jack. I am rooting for one last hurrah from Mike, though.
   10. spycake Posted: January 31, 2006 at 08:53 PM (#1845627)
Lest you think it's just Petco, he was projected at .239/.328/.411 in the Mets ZIPS back in December. I'm certainly pessimistic about Piazza, but I can't see him doing this poorly at the plate (.226/.316/.388) quite yet. Look at his last two years:

2005: .251/.326/.452
2004: .266/.362/.444

I think worst case he might put up that Mets projection in Petco. At least we can all agree he won't be getting that $8 mil mutual option...
   11. The Ghost's Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season Posted: February 01, 2006 at 01:36 AM (#1846003)
What's the sense of a mutual option, anyway? the only thing I can see if if, say, the club has to say "yes" to the option before the playern has to decide. Then the player has some leverage with either that club, or with a different team.
   12. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: February 01, 2006 at 04:30 AM (#1846121)
Before 2003, Loaiza was given a deal that gave him $500,000 with a $4,000,000 option that was thought to be a given that it would be declined when the deal was made. However, Loaiza won 20 games with a sub 3.00 era and got that option picked up.
   13. Kurt Bevacquaman! Posted: February 01, 2006 at 04:32 AM (#1846123)
I believe this comes with a 750K buyout, and the base for the 1 year is 1.25, with 25K incentives for hitting 85, 95, and 105 games started.

Piazza seems to have a fairly sizable chip on his shoulder after being passed on by everyone, and I think a good deal of his lackluster offensive performance of late has to do with his wrist problems rather than the usual catcher aging problems. Not to say he'll shine, but if he duplicates either of those last two years, he'll be well worth the money, and I think that is optimistic but certainly not out of the question.

I just hope everyone is working on their pick-off moves. Any word on those potential Wells-to-Padres deals? You think they'd take MIrabelli back for someone? Youkilis? A boy can dream...
   14. AJMcCringleberry Posted: February 01, 2006 at 05:37 AM (#1846163)
That projection seems awfully low to me. Isn't Petco worse for lefties than righties?
   15. Rob Base Posted: February 01, 2006 at 02:48 PM (#1846322)
Lot of Piazza's power is to Right/Right Center though.
   16. shoewizard Posted: February 01, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#1846505)
As much as I like Piazza, this is excellent news.
   17. Brian Norton Posted: February 03, 2006 at 03:56 PM (#1848828)
So the Padres, in a good pitchers park, are just conceding the running game to their opponents?

I surprised the Pads signed him as a C, while the Twinkies signed Sierra as a DH. I would have thought that Piazza would make a better DH for them than Sierra.

-Bri
   18. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: February 03, 2006 at 04:15 PM (#1848860)
DH in the national league, huh?

You ever heard of Interleague play?
   19. Lou Patterbrock Posted: July 28, 2006 at 03:39 PM (#2115471)
Vindicated!
   20. Rob Base Posted: July 28, 2006 at 03:47 PM (#2115475)
.303/.357/.546

Am I reading these current numbers right? Why was Piazza hitting like #### last year with the Mets? WHY!?!?!?!?!?!
   21. villainx Posted: July 28, 2006 at 03:51 PM (#2115477)
Why was Piazza hitting like #### last year with the Mets? WHY!?!?!?!?!?!

Baseball gods were testing organizational loyalty?
   22. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: July 28, 2006 at 03:57 PM (#2115483)
Piazza could still go 10 for his next 134, with 29 walks.
   23. HowardMegdal Posted: July 28, 2006 at 04:07 PM (#2115502)
It seems like Bochy is doing a better job of keeping him fresh than Willie did. This does not bode well for Paul "Second-Half Swoon" Lo Duca.
   24. Srul Itza Posted: July 28, 2006 at 06:21 PM (#2115630)
I laughed when Mike said he was going to hit 400 home runs as a catcher. He could well hit that mark this year -- if my figures are correct he is at 389 as a catcher. He is leading the majors in home runs by a catcher with 16 (although 2 came as a DH/PH).

Lots of fun for Mike's fans.
   25. JoeHova Posted: July 28, 2006 at 06:29 PM (#2115642)
wow, Piazza has been that good? Impressive.
   26. DCW3 Posted: July 29, 2006 at 10:36 PM (#2117350)
Yeah, the resurgences of Piazza and Frank Thomas have been among this year's most underreported stories.
   27. Mark Shirk (jsch) Posted: July 30, 2006 at 11:36 AM (#2117640)
So do the Padres exercise that option? It is a little expensive, but then again Piazza would be worth it even if he didn't hit as well as he has this year.
   28. yb125 Posted: July 31, 2006 at 12:09 AM (#2118716)
Well it's complicated by the fact that Bowen and Bard have played very well. Still unless it's keeps them from getting a another starter or 3B then they should keep him.
   29. Mark Shirk (jsch) Posted: July 31, 2006 at 01:34 AM (#2118901)
They do have Kottaras coming up as well. Though I would hope that DePa and Towers would recognize that they aren't playing Josh Bard at all and instead are giving at bats to the alien residing in his body. I guess it all depends on the options they have in the OF (Cameron and Roberts are FA's no?), 3B and how ready they think Kottaras is.
   30. Old Matt Posted: July 31, 2006 at 01:36 AM (#2118905)
Mets should bring him back next year.
   31. Rob Base Posted: July 31, 2006 at 01:44 AM (#2118916)
Not gonna happen.
   32. yb125 Posted: July 31, 2006 at 01:46 AM (#2118917)
Cameron have a 7mil team option, Roberts is a FA.

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