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Monday, June 13, 2005

Phillies - Signed Rollins

Philadelphia Phillies - Signed SS Jimmy Rollins to a 5-year contract extension.

This one is worth $40 million and has an $8.5 million option for 2011.  This is kind of a head-scratcher - if it had been done in the offseason coming off his breakout season, it would have been more understandable than it is now, after his first 2 months suggests that he’s regressed back to his usual play.  Now, Rollins isn’t a bad player; he’s essentially a league-average shortstop and young, so this isn’t likely to cripple the Phillies.  But what was the hurry?  They’re paying market value for a player they don’t have to sign for another year and a half.  I do like this signing better than the Angels signing of Cabrera; though Rollins is also a middling hitter with good, though well overrated defense, he’s also on the right side of 30.

Thumbs in the middle, tilted very slightly upwards.

2005 ZiPS Projection - Jimmy Rollins
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Period     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Actual ‘05 266 40   70   9 4   5 19 16 27 13 .263 .307 .383
Rest ‘05   409 63 111 21 5   8 43 35 58   7 .271 .330 .406
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Total ‘05 673 103 181 30 9 13 62 51 85 20 .268 .321 .397

Dan Szymborski Posted: June 13, 2005 at 07:40 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. ESK in STL Posted: June 13, 2005 at 08:17 PM (#1401799)
I couldn't agree more. Tell me, against whom were they actually competing?
   2. Larry Bowa Posted: June 13, 2005 at 09:58 PM (#1401996)
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If that's what Rollins is worth, I'd be getting at least $3 million a year if I played now!

****

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[smashes bottle]

Mother****er.
   3. FDR Jones Posted: June 13, 2005 at 11:07 PM (#1402085)
Jesus mackerel! That is a lot of money.
   4. FDR Jones Posted: June 13, 2005 at 11:08 PM (#1402087)
Larry, you are a funny mother****er.
   5. FDR Jones Posted: June 13, 2005 at 11:10 PM (#1402088)
exceptionally smooth analysis by Dan, I must say.
   6. FDR Jones Posted: June 13, 2005 at 11:30 PM (#1402116)
also, I should say, I met Jimmy Rollins and Marlon Anderson back in 2002 and they wore near-identical tan suits, sharp ties, and sunglasses. I couldn't tell them apart. Lively pair, and they really appeared to be the best of pals.
   7. AndrewJ Posted: June 14, 2005 at 12:42 AM (#1402263)
Rollins DID score 119 runs last season. According to the Sinins BB Encyclopedia, only Dykstra ('93), Dick Allen ('64) and Rolen ('00) have scored more in a season for the Phils over the last 40 years. Given the Phils' recent trouble with leadoff men (see Glanville, Doug), I'd make sure a decent guy like Rollins stayed in Philly a little while.
   8. Spivey Posted: June 14, 2005 at 01:49 AM (#1402417)
Does Rollins deserve most of the credit for those runs? His OBP wasn't great. Having Abreu and Thome was the reason.
   9. StopBooingAbreu Posted: June 14, 2005 at 06:11 AM (#1402873)
Given the Phils' recent trouble with leadoff men (see Glanville, Doug), I'd make sure a decent guy like Rollins stayed in Philly a little while.

Actually, I was looking forward to seeing Michael Bourn as thier leadoff in the very near future. After they put him in AA I was hoping for a lighting quick track to the majors, replacing Lofton next year.

While I admit this was being overly ambitious, I really like what Bourn brings to the table. Despite, to what I think, what has been an almost red-flag start in Reading.

But my point being...I never saw Rollins as the leadoff guy of the future, although they absolutely insist on him being there, and was hoping that he would be put down to 7th-8th in the order.

I would have liked the Phils to have shaved about 500k-750k off each year, but I like the deal overall.
   10. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2005 at 02:53 PM (#1403251)
Is Rollins as good as Reyes? I don't see it.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: June 14, 2005 at 04:05 PM (#1403408)
Is Rollins as good as Reyes? I don't see it.

In 2001 and 2004, he was much better. In 2002, 2003, and so far in 2005, he's been as good as Reyes -- which ain't saying much.

If that's what Rollins is worth, I'd be getting at least $3 million a year if I played now!

I dunno Larry. You could make $3 M per year if you could stomach being as cute and loveable as David Eckstein. But I just don't see that happening.

Good timing on your part though. Your best hitting year (95 OPS+) was your 6th year of service, perfect time to hit the market.
   12. Chris Dial Posted: June 14, 2005 at 06:18 PM (#1403865)
He's also 4 years older (so his 2001 was compared to a 18 yr old).

He had a good 2004 compared to Reyes, but I like Reyes to be better (or about the same) this season, and better going forward as he's so much younger, and I don't think Reyes is an $8m player at his 03-05 numbers.

Seems like a poor signing to me.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: June 14, 2005 at 07:41 PM (#1404116)
He's also 4 years older (so his 2001 was compared to a 18 yr old).

I know, and if you'd asked "will Rollins be as good as Reyes over the next 5 years?" I might have had a different answer. :-)
   14. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 14, 2005 at 07:57 PM (#1404148)
FYI, Rollins did get off to a slowish start this year -- From the Inquirer:
Rollins started the season slowly. He was hitting just .228 on May 12, but in one month he has raised his average to .263.

He has kept his Ks down -- only 27 so far, but his BBs are not good either -- 16. I seem him as a different hitter than his first 3 years, but I'm not convinced that he is a better hitter.

Ed Wade has a sense of humor
From the same article,
Charlie Manuel managed Omar Vizquel for three seasons in Cleveland, but the Phillies skipper said he considers Rollins a more talented player.

"Maybe around No. 5," said Rollins, asked where he ranked among big-league shortstops.

"I thought it was three," Wade joked. "We might have to redo this deal."
   15. PhillyBooster Posted: June 19, 2005 at 01:17 AM (#1414845)
Rollins in the five games since the contract extension:

11 for 22 with a double, triple and homer. His season OPS is up about 50 points.

Certainly makes up for the zero walks in his last 80 (and counting) at bats.

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