Phils - Acquired Lee
Philadelphia Phillies - Acquired P Cliff Lee from the Cleveland Indians for P Carlos Carrasco, P Jason Knapp, C Lou Marson, and SS Jason Donald
Something like this was almost considered a fait accompli after the Halladay-to-Philly trade fell through. Lee’s not the pitcher that Halladay is, but the Indians still fared pretty decently in the trade.
From the Phils standpoint, they’re almost definitely a playoff team, but with a rotation that hasn’t been scaring anyone this season. Lee instantly becomes the go-to guy for the Phillies and even if they gave up some interesting prospects with upside, they can be happy that they got to hang onto Michael Taylor and Kyle Drabek.
Carrasco’s still an excellent prospect at a position the Indians sorely need, though he’s still prone to have games where he leaves everything hanging. The ERA for Lehigh Valley doesn’t look great at first glance, but he’s still dominating hitters when he’s on and doing it with a B+ fastball and if he puts it all together, will be a solid mid-rotation pitcher for the Indians. Donald’s stock has dropped a lot this season, but he’s still a prospect and worth keeping an eye on. Knapp is a pitcher the Indians really wanted and I think he has the highest upside of anyone in the trade, a solidly-built hard thrower who has dominated the Sally League this season. Marson’s a very good defensive catcher who walks a lot, but he really needs to hit for more power unless he wants to be a rich man’s Mark Johnson.
Reasonable trade for both sides as they both accomplish what they needed to here.
2009 ZIPS Projection - Cliff Lee
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W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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Year-to-Date 7 9 22 22 152.0 165 53 10 33 107 3.14
Rest-of-Year 7 3 13 13 89.3 89 34 8 17 67 3.43
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Total 14 12 35 35 241.3 254 87 18 50 174 3.24
2009 ZIPS Projection - Carlos Carrasco
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W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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Year-to-Date 5 10 20 20 108.0 125 72 22 45 81 6.00
Rest-of-Year 3 5 12 11 59.0 67 38 10 30 40 5.80
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2009 ZIPS Projection - Lou Marson
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Year-to-Date 233 32 61 12 0 1 20 28 48 3 .262 .341 .326
Rest-of-Year 159 21 41 7 0 2 15 19 34 1 .257 .338 .334
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2009 ZIPS Projection - Jason Donald
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Year-to-Date 236 29 53 15 2 1 16 13 59 6 .225 .275 .318
Rest-of-Year 185 23 45 9 1 4 19 14 44 4 .244 .304 .360
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Year-to-date totals include minor-league translations, if applicable.
Dan Szymborski
Posted: July 29, 2009 at 06:12 PM |
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1. you got a STEAGLES? you're gonna need a STEAGLES. Posted: July 29, 2009 at 06:39 PM (#3272616)also, i think ben francisco was also coming to the phils.
I said at the time that the signing of Martinez didn't make a whole lot of sense, and it makes even less sense now after this trade than it did then. Even Moyer has been pitching a lot better lately, so there's not even a guarantee that Martinez will take his spot, assuming that his minor league outing goes fairly well.
Travis D'Arnaud may be rated higher than Marson these days but he is only 20 in the Sally League, so it looks like a few more years of Chooch.
...and who's out with a shoulder injury.
Teams do have budgets.
I don't think Pedro is going to be a starter for the Phils this year. It'll be weird to see him as a reliever.
A deep playoff run this season would pay for both Lee and Halladay next season.
I'm sure the Phils would be thrilled to have the problem that all 6 starters were simultaneously healthy and pitching well.
The Phils would be a nightmare in a postseason series with Hamels, Lee and one of the four (Happ/Blanton/Moyer/Martinez) in a three man rotation with the other three coming out of the pen (or with a four man rotation and two of those four coming out of the pen).
But this is what winning teams do... they don't sit back on their laurels, they strike while the iron is hot. Coffee is for closers, as they say.
Second prize is a set of steak knives, right?
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