Pirates - Signed Bay
Pittsburgh Pirates - Signed OF Jason Bay to a 4-year contract.
MLB is reporting this as $18.25 million over 4 years with another half a million in possible bonuses.
Easy thumbs-up for the Pirates - short of catastrophic injury, the Pirates should be coming out ahead by the end of 2007. You can’t buy goodwill in arbitration years of a player by giving them good, fair, deals, but you can certainly lose it by doing the opposite. It’d be fun for the Pirates to sign Brian Giles, too, just to rub it in the faces of the Padres, but they’re going to spending all their new licensing and national TV dough in the remainder bin and then be confused when they finish 72-90 and don’t score any runs. Of course, the Padres at least got Giles - the Expos got Lou Collier in return for Bay.
But it won’t be Bay’s fault. Bay will continue to be Pittsburgh’s new Brian Giles - Bay even added the high-percentage basestealing with only average speed and faked center without falling on his face in 2005.
2006 ZiPS Projection - Jason Bay
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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542 90 161 35 5 32 99 84 122 16 .297 .395 .557
Dan Szymborski
Posted: November 17, 2005 at 08:09 PM |
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1. 1k5v3LCollier then proceeded to have 42 ABs for Montreal, before moving onto suck in Boston and then Philly. The Mets ended up with 39 innings of relief pitching combined between their two pickups (Jason Middlebrook and Steve Reed).
no problem - just didn't want to let Minaya off the hook for one of his many stupid deals while running the Expos.
To make matters worse, the Mets were on the verge of waiving Collier before the end of spring training. Minaya was so hot for Collier that he didn't want to risk that a team with a higher waiver claim priority (Pittsburgh and Cincinatti were the only 2 teams with potentially higher claim priorities) would get Collier first. Collier sucks, gets outrighted after a few weeks with no teams making claims.
I'll laugh, I'll cry, I'll get back in line.
Mebbe he'll get hit by a bus and I'll be proved wrong.
No GM gets rescued from himself as often as Littlefield.
If my memory is working here, the $$ involved: About $18 M. I wonder if the Padres FO/owner (Moores) now has any regrets for refusing that sweet deal? Giles and Hernandez will probably leave San Diego this winter. Yet, the Padres would still have Kendall, Bay, Perez and Kotsay!
Well, he’ll again have the opportunity to sign Burnitz this winter.
As someone pointed out, the only problem with Bay is that he's a late bloomer. Otherwise, he's a bona fide superstar, doesn't make problems in the clubhouse, and at least seems to be an all around decent fellow except for his flappy head. He's basically an improved version of Brian Giles, who was already pretty damned good already. Your deal doesn't seem all the nuts to me (in fact, I wouldn't do it if I were Littlefield... of course, that means I'm suprised that your trade didn't already happen).
Wood would make a lot of sense, on the other hand, because there are approximately zero shortstop prospects in the system (Yes, Mr. Guzman, I'm looking at you).
I still don't think I'd do the deal, but it's not an unreasonable offer.
Sure, but it's a waste of effort when you've got worse problems than OF.
I really, really hope these were just rumors and not truly an offer that Littlefield put on the table.
Since we're playing "if I were GM", my next move (Littlefield's) would be to figure out how to get Chad Tracy from the D-backs for a pitcher(s) not named Duke, Perez, Gonzalez, or Maholm. Anyone think that's viable?
Tracy would change the face of the Pirate batting order. I'd consider throwing in Gonzalez as well if the Dbacks sent back another hitter too.
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