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Friday, December 07, 2007

Rangers - Acquired Shelton

Texas Rangers - Acquired 1B Chris Shelton from the Detroit Tigers for CF Freddy Guzman

The Rangers do something smart here - Shelton’s unlikely to develop into a solidly above-average 1B, but he should be somewhere near average and the Rangers have little quality at 1B/DH.  Once the move of Guillen to first was a reality, there wasn’t much use for Shelton on the team and the Tigers pick up a young player, albeit one who’s more likely to be a reserve outfielder than an impact player.  Not as sexy as the other trade the Tigers made, but it’s still useful (analysis upcoming on that one - I’ve been out of town and away from the ZiPS SuperComputer)

2008 ZiPS Projection - Chris Shelton
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          AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Projection   435 59 115 23 2 16 68 54 130   2 .264 .353 .437
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Opt. (15%)  542 89 160 36 4 27 107 81 143   4 .295 .394 .526
Pes. (15%)  356 40   85 16 1 11 49 35 118   0 .239 .311 .382
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Top Comps:  Lee Walls, George Scott

 

2008 ZiPS Projection - Freddy Guzman
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          AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Projection   485 77 128 21 6   4 34 50 70 38 .264 .337 .354
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Opt. (15%)  567 108 165 32 8 10 78 68 66 56 .291 .369 .429
Pes. (15%)  448 61 112 18 3   2 26 39 66 23 .250 .311 .317
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Top Comps:  Derrel Thomas, Darren Lewis

 

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 07, 2007 at 02:45 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Honkie Kong Posted: December 07, 2007 at 04:33 AM (#2637642)
Does Shelton have any platoon splits? They could platoon him with Botts...
   2. Excel Hearts Choi Posted: December 07, 2007 at 04:37 AM (#2637644)
Botts will most likely be the DH while Shelton will start at 1B.
   3. Honkie Kong Posted: December 07, 2007 at 04:39 AM (#2637646)
What about Catonolotto? And Salty/Teagarden when they aint catching...
   4. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: December 07, 2007 at 06:33 AM (#2637677)
That optimistic for Shelton is pretty. I've always felt for the guy since he got replaced by someone who clearly wasn't any better than him in Sean Casey.
   5. Excel Hearts Choi Posted: December 07, 2007 at 03:40 PM (#2637912)
What about Catonolotto? And Salty/Teagarden when they aint catching...

Teagarden probably won't see the majors this year, especially if the Rangers don't trade Laird.

As for the OF, it is a mess, and a weak hitting mess at that. Cat could play first, with Shelton hitting against LHP. But that would mean Nelson Cruz would probably be the starter in a corner OF spot. He has lots of talent, but that is not translating into anything useful for the Rangers right now. Might as well go with a Cat/Cruz platoon in LF, and keep Shelton at 1B.
   6. ColonelTom Posted: December 07, 2007 at 03:44 PM (#2637918)
Terrific move by the Rangers. Chris Shelton is free at last!
   7. a bebop a rebop Posted: December 07, 2007 at 04:59 PM (#2637984)
How long is he under control?
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 07, 2007 at 06:32 PM (#2638099)
How long is he under control?

It looks like has a little more than 2 years service time, so 3 or 4 years.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 07, 2007 at 06:40 PM (#2638108)
Terrific move by the Rangers. Chris Shelton is free at last!

Agreed. Now Free Justin Huber.
   10. Loren F. Posted: December 07, 2007 at 06:47 PM (#2638115)
I've been out of town and away from the ZiPS SuperComputer

Dan, I'm surprised that the ZiPS SuperComputer can't just send the ZiPS-Plane to get you and automatically bring you back to the ZiPS-Cave. Or, failing that, ZiPS-Mite the rascally sidekick could run the numbers for you.
   11. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: December 07, 2007 at 06:50 PM (#2638118)
How is Shelton's D at 1B? I've heard anywhere from OK to atrocious
   12. Ardo Posted: December 07, 2007 at 08:50 PM (#2638276)
Shelton's D at first base is actually above-average. He had a lot of fielding win shares in 2006.
   13. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 07, 2007 at 08:59 PM (#2638287)

Dan, I'm surprised that the ZiPS SuperComputer can't just send the ZiPS-Plane to get you and automatically bring you back to the ZiPS-Cave. Or, failing that, ZiPS-Mite the rascally sidekick could run the numbers for you.


Because I offer the projections for free, I cannot afford a ZiPSCave or a ZiPSPlane. I do have a ZiPSMazda, but it looks quite similar to my regular Mazda.

It's worth noting that ZiPS is actually supposed to be ZiPs, but I made a typo years ago and I decided to stick with it.
   14. jwb Posted: December 08, 2007 at 12:26 AM (#2638479)
I think Dan is purposely keeping the ZiPS SuperComputer under manual control to avoid this scenario: New... powerful... hooked into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order of intelligence. Then it saw all people as a threat, not just Tracy Ringolsby. Decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination.
   15. WillYoung Posted: December 08, 2007 at 12:55 AM (#2638496)
Because I offer the projections for free, I cannot afford a ZiPSCave or a ZiPSPlane. I do have a ZiPSMazda, but it looks quite similar to my regular Mazda.

The Regular Mazda is pretty pimped out.
   16. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 08, 2007 at 05:13 AM (#2638585)
I do have a ZiPSMazda, but it looks quite similar to my regular Mazda.


Hopefully you aren't leasing, according to a guy I saw walking along the road today holding a sign that said thus, you should never lease a Mazda.
   17. Lassus Posted: December 08, 2007 at 06:24 AM (#2638640)
The Regular Mazda is pretty pimped out


A huge air-brushed portrait of Toscanini.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
   18. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: December 08, 2007 at 06:56 AM (#2638674)
It's worth noting that ZiPS is actually supposed to be ZiPs, but I made a typo years ago and I decided to stick with it.


Ok, so what is the acronym "ZiPs" stand for.
   19. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: December 08, 2007 at 07:00 AM (#2638680)
I thought the "P" and the "S" were the only letters that actually stood for words. Shouldn't it be "ziPS"?
   20.   Posted: December 08, 2007 at 07:17 AM (#2638688)
I always assumed it was sZymborski's Projection System
   21. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 08, 2007 at 04:16 PM (#2638846)
Shock has it right.

First, I thought SPS, but it needed a vowel to be able to say. So it became SIPS, but that sounds like a juice box, so it becamse ZIPS. I also wanted it to rhyme with DIPS since I think that other than Voros's system, it was the first attempt to model $H for pitchers.

I'm sure if you guys use your imagination, you can figure out why I wanted it to be ZiPs. Free hint: I'm a Gen-Xer.
   22. Mike Emeigh Posted: December 08, 2007 at 04:29 PM (#2638855)
I've always felt for the guy since he got replaced by someone who clearly wasn't any better than him in Sean Casey.


Casey at least can play 1B. Shelton's a born DH.

Lost in the shuffle here is that Shelton hasn't hit for nearly two years (since a hot first month of 2006) and his strikeout rate has ballooned upward in that time period. Whatever he was doing in 2005 seems to have gone by the boards.

-- MWE
   23. Mike Emeigh Posted: December 08, 2007 at 04:32 PM (#2638859)
Does Shelton have any platoon splits? They could platoon him with Botts...


Except that Botts appears to be a better RHB than LHB, and Shelton bats right.

-- MWE
   24. Beauregard Posted: December 08, 2007 at 10:19 PM (#2639087)
I'm sure if you guys use your imagination, you can figure out why I wanted it to be ZiPs. Free hint: I'm a Gen-Xer.


Dan, I had some of these bad boys, too.
   25. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 08, 2007 at 11:32 PM (#2639135)
Heh, while I had a pair of those ZIPS, the spelling of ZiPs was for one of my favorite shows as a little kid, CHiPs. You could entertain me for hours with that and Dukes of Hazzard.

As great as that ZIPS commercial is, <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd4C8_FMdjA">Alfonso Ribeiro's Breakin' and Poppin'</A? is still the best commercial in television history.

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