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Sunday, July 31, 2005

Red Sox - Acquired Cruz Jr.

Boston Red Sox - Acquired OF Jose Cruz Jr. from the Arizona Diamondbacks for IF Kenny Perez and P Kyle Bono

Well, this is certainly about a million times better than the puzzling Shoppach-Stern for Larry Bigbie trade that made the rounds yesterday.  The Red Sox give up two non-prospects instead of a good catching prospect and a usuable 4th outfielder for a player that’s better than the aforementioned Bigbie.  Whoever thought up the original trade should probably be given a pink slip Monday morning and be thankful that they escaped without being eviscerated.  The Diamondbacks get nothing, but then, they didn’t expect to when they DFAed Cruz.

It’s nice to see the Red Sox realize that they could improve themselves without giving away their prospects for a mediocre outfielder or helping the Devil Rays take all the Met prospects.

2005 ZiPS Projection - Jose Cruz Jr.
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Period     AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB   BA   OBP   SLG
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Actual ‘05 202 23   43   9 0 12 28 42 54   0 .213 .347 .436
Rest ‘05   153 25   39   9 1   8 26 27 33   2 .255 .367 .484
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Total ‘05

 

Dan Szymborski Posted: July 31, 2005 at 04:54 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Joshemy Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:05 PM (#1512637)
Um, Dan, Cruz was on the DBacks...
   2. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:09 PM (#1512650)
On a related note is Cruz really going to hit better in Fenway than in Arizona? Or was he underperforming his "true ability" there?
   3. Lawyerhoya Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:13 PM (#1512659)
On what basis are either Perez or Bono "non-prospects?" That seems a complete misstatement.
   4. Josh Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:18 PM (#1512676)
Perez is a non-prospect. 23 y/o, repeating AA and not performing well at any level. He is a non-prospect.

Bono isn't a non-prospect, but he is a MR prospect doing well in single-A. That is about a 1/2 step above a non-prospect.
   5. Dan Szymborski Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:22 PM (#1512684)
He was underperforming his true ability (on that note, I really need to not open posts I wrote while loaded at 2 AM in the morning without double-checking). Non-prospect is rather strong with Bono, though I stand by it with Perez.
   6. AROM Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:23 PM (#1512688)
Its a salary dump for Arizona. And according to MGL, Cruz has "defended" CF at a rate of -63 runs per 150 games.

Mabe they'll keep Manny around as a defensive replacement.
   7. Cowboy Popup Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:28 PM (#1512694)
"Its a salary dump for Arizona. And according to MGL, Cruz has "defended" CF at a rate of -63 runs per 150 games.

Mabe they'll keep Manny around as a defensive replacement."

Except that he has rated incredibly well as a corner outfielder (like +20 or something) and the Sox are probably getting him to platoon with Trot and spot Manny.
   8. chris p Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:33 PM (#1512708)
i think bono has a chance to become a relief prospect, but i agree that he's not a prospect right now. he has a good k rate, but major control issues.
   9. Lawyerhoya Posted: July 31, 2005 at 05:59 PM (#1512787)
Calling Perez a non-prospect is just wrong, though. He is not a stud, but he's very clearly a quality prospect. Here's what Jim Callis of Baseball America said earlier this year about him:

Eric from Los Angeles asks:
In a July editon of Ask BA Seattle, Los Angeles, and Anaheim were ranked as the organizations with the best depth at SS. Does Boston now enter into the conversation with these other organizations?
A:

Jim Callis: Yes, with the four shortstops I've mentioned (Ramirez, Pedroia, Soto, Lara) and sleeper Kenny Perez, they'd have to be included in that group.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: July 31, 2005 at 06:18 PM (#1512860)
sleeper Kenny Perez

Apparently Perez woke up. :-)
   11. AROM Posted: July 31, 2005 at 06:18 PM (#1512863)
Perez is 23, hitting .285 at AA, not much power, walks, or steals. John Sickels doesn't mention him in his book.

He's probably not going to be much of a hitter, so his prospect status depends on whether or not he's an asset with the glove.
   12. Lawyerhoya Posted: July 31, 2005 at 06:20 PM (#1512870)
He's no world-beater but there's a huge difference between not being a top-ten prospect and not being a prospect at all. I guess I get annoyed when people who don't focus on the minor leagues group everyone not considered a "top" prospect into the "non-prospect" bucket.

Because, it just isn't so!
   13. Ozzie's gay friend Posted: July 31, 2005 at 06:49 PM (#1512975)
didn't Cruz win a glove glove?
   14. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 31, 2005 at 06:53 PM (#1512987)
didn't Cruz win a glove glove?

He did, in 2003 with the Giants. And IIRC, he made a horrible drop of a fly ball in the NLDS against the Marlins that allowed them to clinch the series.
   15. b-ball23 Posted: July 31, 2005 at 07:00 PM (#1513017)
What is Cruz's contract status?

Also, do we have Cora and Graffanino next year too?
   16. Ozzie's gay friend Posted: July 31, 2005 at 07:01 PM (#1513018)
Well seems like he'll play RF for the Red Sox.

How do you'll think he;ll handle it? better than trot? Was his gold glove legit? has he just lost a step? or was he never that good.

Cosidering there's a 70 point difference between his UZR in RF and CF (altohugh didn't he have a ton of assist last year in RF?), I'm willing to write him off as a guy who UZR doesn't 'get'.
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 31, 2005 at 07:11 PM (#1513079)
Graf and Cruz are free agents in November.

Cora is signed at $1.4 million through next year.
   18. Ozzie's gay friend Posted: July 31, 2005 at 07:15 PM (#1513096)
I hope Graf comes back to KC in 06.

that is, as long as the red sox don't offer him arb.
   19. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 31, 2005 at 07:26 PM (#1513160)
I've seen Perez in action several times. I'm confident in calling him a non-prospect.
   20. Lawyerhoya Posted: July 31, 2005 at 09:50 PM (#1513869)
He lost out to Dustin Pedroia and Hanley Ramirez....yeah, that's evidence of something: that he's not one of the better infield prospects in baseball. Real newsflash there.
   21. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 31, 2005 at 10:02 PM (#1513882)
Because that's clearly what I'm referring to.

He's f'in hitting .285/.328/.375 in a repeat of AA as a 23-year-old, after hitting a robust .280/.323/.420 last year in AA. What more do you want before you think he's a non-prospect?
   22. Mikαεl Posted: July 31, 2005 at 10:07 PM (#1513891)
Kenny Perez has a shot to have a nice little career as a utility infielder. He's pretty unlikely to do more than that.

Whether that's a prospect or not is semantics. Either way, he's not a particularly valuable piece.
   23. b Posted: July 31, 2005 at 10:13 PM (#1513897)
I'm willing to write him off as a guy who UZR doesn't 'get'.

The question is really not one of their historically being this big a gap between Cruz in CF and Cruz in RF. The question is, how badly has Cruz's injury effected his performance this year? The answer, it would appear, is quite significantly.
   24. shoewizard Posted: July 31, 2005 at 10:15 PM (#1513902)
From everyday observation, I would say UZR "GOT" Cruz just fine.
   25. Jim Wisinski Posted: July 31, 2005 at 11:48 PM (#1513977)
UZR had Cruz at -7 in RF last year, a rating that I think is pretty accurate.
   26. Darren Posted: August 01, 2005 at 12:08 AM (#1513992)
where'd you get last year's UZR?
   27. Darren Posted: August 01, 2005 at 12:09 AM (#1513994)
BTW, ZiPS is really giving the Fanboy Projection System a run for its money.
   28. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: August 02, 2005 at 04:33 PM (#1517095)
I've seen Perez in action several times. I'm confident in calling him a non-prospect.

I've also seen him play a lot in Portland, and I completely agree with this assessment.

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