Red Sox - DLed Foulke, Acquired Cora
Boston Red Sox - Placed P Keith Foulke on the 15-day DL; recalled P Scott Cassidy; acquired IF Alex Cora from the Cleveland Indians for IF Ramon Vazquez; DFAed OF Jay Payton.
The Indians save a bit of money here and as a nice side effect, make it a lot harder to lose starts for Jhonny Peralta. As far as I can tell, Peralta’s great crime is not being mid-90s Vizquel with the glove. Vazquez is an adequate backup and won’t push better players to the bench - I rather have Cora, but Vazquez isn’t as bad as he’s played this year.
The Red Sox now have a player who can push Mark Bellhorn a bit, but hopefully not all the way as Cora’s hit much worse than Bellhorn this year and is probably a bit overrated defensively (he’s good, but Izturis is the one that made the Dodger DP combo awesome last year). Bellhorn should still get the majority of the playing time, unless that way-out-there Bellhorn-for-Boone rumor comes to pass (which would be a disaster for the Sox).
I wouldn’t have DFAed Jay Payton - the Sox obviously think a lot more of Adam Stern than I do. Why dump a guy who’s been a decent role player before exploring the other options? The Braves have little use for Stern and you can probably lose a lesser player to the Braves than Payton in return for getting to keep Stern.
2005 ZiPS Projection - Scott Cassidy
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Period W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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Actual ‘05* 5 4 25 3 58 52 26 6 26 56 4.03
Rest ‘05 3 3 23 3 46 44 24 5 22 39 4.70
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* - Includes MLE
2005 ZiPS Projection - Ramon Vazquez
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Period AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Actual ‘05 61 6 12 2 0 0 4 3 14 0 .197 .234 .230
Rest ‘05 161 19 40 7 1 1 16 20 30 1 .248 .335 .323
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Total ‘05 222 25 52 16 1 1 20 23 44 1 .234 .309 .297
2005 ZiPS Projection - Alex Cora
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Period AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Actual ‘05 146 11 30 5 2 1 8 5 18 6 .205 .250 .288
Rest ‘05 184 21 50 8 1 2 19 14 20 1 .272 .343 .359
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Total ‘05 330 32 80 13 3 3 27 19 38 7 .242 .303 .327
2005 ZiPS Projection - Jay Payton
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Period AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Actual ‘05 133 24 35 7 0 5 21 10 14 0 .263 .313 .429
Rest ‘05 216 31 61 10 1 7 29 18 23 0 .282 .340 .435
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Total ‘05 349 55 96 17 1 12 50 28 37 0 .275 .330 .433
2005 ZiPS Projection - Adam Stern
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Period AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG
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Actual ‘05* 75 15 22 7 0 2 13 7 11 2 .293 .350 .467
Rest ‘05 163 27 45 9 1 2 18 11 25 6 .276 .326 .380
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* - Includes MLE
Dan Szymborski
Posted: July 07, 2005 at 06:24 PM |
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1. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: July 07, 2005 at 06:54 PM (#1455747)Boston media is reporting that a trade of Payton is imminent.
That's why he was DFA'd. It's not just a Stern love affair.
ugh. what an ugly sentence.
The Indians are going to do something else. Vazquez is going to Buffalo, so that leaves the Indians with only 3 backup position players: Bard, Hernandez, and Blake/Gerut.
Ernie said it in the dugout, and he is right. This is a prelude to something else for Cleveland.
He even wants Brett Mayne back.
what levski is looking to delete the semicolon and insert two dashes and he will probably do it -- he is a special person
Vazquez is going to Buffalo and Cora's roster spot is being taken by Brian Tallet, which I think is kind of weird. Do they really think they'll need a 13th pitcher for this series against the Yankees?
Now that I look at the roster, I guess it came down to Tallet or Brandon Phillips for that last spot on the 25 man... I'm surprised they didn't pick Phillips. Or -- what I would have preferffed -- put Juan Gonzalez on the 60-day DL (or just cut him altogether) and bring up Gautreau or Abad or Ernie Young.
For who, I have no idea. I suppose Kolb is a possibility.
I guess I am pretty bearish on the rest of the season at this point. I think the Sox could benefit a lot more from being pseduo-sellers as we near the deadline, as opposed to going for it again. Hell, they can probably jettison a few quality parts (e.g. Millar, Mueller, Payton, Wells) and still take the division.
I doubt any of the Kolb/Battalico/Hasegawa trio would close if they came to Boston. They'll use Timlin and <gulp> Schilling to close while Foulke is out. They are looking for someone to fill in the 7th-8th inning gaps.
I hope it's a prelude to another Boston-Cleveland trade, say Mueller (Millar?) for Riske.
Riske would be a fine addition to the pen, but I suspect Cleveland won't have much interest in Millar.
I know Millar has asked for a trade, but Mueller looks like the guy that would interest a lot of teams. Plus, with Youkilis already on the roster, he's expendable. I prefer Mueller to Youks, but I don't think it makes much sense to have them both on the roster.
I think Cleveland would like to upgrade at first base. Whether Millar is an upgrade on Broussard, though, is debatable.
Why? Youkilis appears to be better with bat and glove.
The Klobb actually throws pretty hard. He just can't get it over the plate -- and when he does, he hangs it. He's been looking better lately, but everything's relative.
Exactly.
Plus, for a team that's as budget conscious for the Indians, I can't see them trading something useful and spending the extra money for the "upgrade" from Broussard to Millar.
They'd be more likely to just call up Garko and call it a day.
But like aco, I don't see enough differentiation between Youkilis and Mueller to warrant keeping Mueller if he could help fill another hole.
Err, that should read "as the Indians".
Mueller's splits are huge, and consistent with the observation that he is masterful at using the monster. On the road, he's a 700 OPS hitter.
I think they're comparable defensively and Mueller is more of a known commodity with the bat. I can see Youkilis struggling to slug .400 over the course of the season. I like them both fine, but my main point is that there's no need to have both of them, especially when you've got Jeremi Gonzales on your 25-man.
Anyone who has ever played Goldeneye on the N64 will disagree strongly with that statement.
I don't know who would want Millar as anything more than a throw-in.
Wow. I loved Payton when he was coming up, but I can't see how this makes any sense for the A's unless they're trading Byrnes in the process. Payton has been brutal against righties for the past while, and the A's already have two corner OF who fit that description.
Could this mean Kotsay will be traded?
Could this mean Kotsay will be traded?
Is Payton any good in center or a reincarnation of Byrnes and Long?
What would Oakland do with Payton? Unless Byrnes is being trade, then Payton could fill the Byrnes platoon role. Oh yeah, maybe Kotsay's being traded ... and Oakland has lived with Long and Singleton in CF before, so Payton can't be ruled out entirely ... but obviously it's not Kotsay for Payton.
I wouldn't have DFAed Jay Payton - the Sox obviously think a lot more of Adam Stern than I do. Why dump a guy who's been a decent role player before exploring the other options? The Braves have little use for Stern and you can probably lose a lesser player to the Braves than Payton in return for getting to keep Stern.
Assuming facts not in evidence ... or at least not in my brain. Who's Adam Stern and what do the Braves have to do with it?
I would guess it's Jairo Garcia going to Boston. I really hope it's not Cruz.
Rule 5 pick from the Braves. He's been DL'd with mysterious ailments for much of the season.
I am eager to see the other shoe drop because all the Sox have done is spin their wheels so far.
Foulke expected to be out six weeks after having his left knee scoped.
I remain bearish. If the FO starts spinning off younger players to patch this leaking ship, I think they will regret it sooner rather than later.
Worst. Gun. Ever.
</pitiful whine>
This team is really ####### dumb when it comes to injuries.
"Alex Cora Playing Shortstop and Batting Leadoff Tonight,
Adam Stern in Centerfield Batting 8th"
Exactly. Ever seen Kolb pitch?
As an aside, I'm so glad someone else got that reference. I would have felt like a total dork. Now I still feel like a total dork, but at least I have company.
M. Kotsay to the Cubs
J. Garcia and R. Hill to Sox
My call.
And I get crap when I propose Tony Clark for Dustin Pedroia.
Did you actually propose that one?
I'd like to see Petagine move...
I actually liked Perfect Dark better than Goldeneye, but I think I'm in a minority on that one.
*shakes fist*
I'm hoping BOS outbids nobody for Huff and sends Millar packing in the transaction. Everyone deserves a dream...
M. Kotsay to the Cubs
J. Garcia and R. Hill to Sox
Garcia and Kotsay for an OF prospect seem pretty expensive. Maybe if Pedroia is included instead of Moss, since the A's don't have any good prospects at 2B.
Do the Cubs see Hill as a SP prospect or a reliever? Looks like he's done a bit of both in A-ball. Tons of Ks, plenty of walks...sounds like he'd fit right into the Mantei role. If you're into that sort of thing.
Cora (SS)
Mueller (3B)
Ortiz (DH)
Nixon (RF)
Millar (LF)
Olerud (1B)
Mirabelli (C)
Stern (CF)
Bellhorn (2B)
221 IP, 174 H, 297 K, 154 BB, 14 HR, 34 HBP
Hellooo, Rick Vaughn.
I don't see why you should be so bearish. They've had no Schilling (they'll at least have some in the 2nd half), the bullpen should be significantly better than net replacement level (as they were in the 1st half) in the 2nd half, and they've gotten crap from 1st base (an easily fixed problem). All this and they're 4 games up in the division.
I would be shocked to see the Sox move more than one of their Prospects (the Papelbon, Sanchez, etc. class), if any of them, unless they can swing a deal for a guy an big impact guy. I don't think we need to worry about Shoppach or Lester for a generic middle man.
While I do want to see the Sox repeat, I hope they don't mortgage the future.
It's raining in Baltimora.
I'd gladly do Shoppach for a generic middle man. I don't think he has much value.
Oh, I'm just here to maintain balance in The Force with our esteemed Perfesser Sunshine.
1. Schilling. Back on the team post AS break, back in the rotation by mid-August? How good will he be? And when?
2. The Bullpen. Sucks. Is the forecast that the relief work will improve in the 2nd half based on anything more concrete than the fact that they could scarcely be worse? I guess there's some merit to that line of reckoning, but an actual mechanism for improvement would be more comforting. Mike Myers is a highlight of the pen. That bears mentioning.
3. First base. Millar needs to go, but I don't have much confidence that the FO will make it so. His inertia with this team is simply amazing.
I don't see many compelling reasons to assume the team will realize substantial gains in any more than one of those three problem areas. And we're not even considering the guys who have performed well (Varitek, Damon, Timlin, Myers) who shouldn't be expected to continue apace.
It's not so much that I fear Theo mortgaging the future. Rather, I fear missed opportunities to build for some dynamite teams in 2006-2008 because this very flawed 2005 team happens to be in first place. Last year, I had no good answers for the question Why Not Us? This year, I have several.
Also a report that Remy said it was for someone on the DL.
Putting Gammons + Remy + Theo together you get... Payton for Chad Bradford.
I guess.
Drat!!
I like to be a wee bit more optimistic than that.
Can he catch? It sure looks like he can hit
The Red Sox are trying to convert him to catcher; he was an infielder in college. Undrafted FA out of Washington; 23 years old.
Here's a profile from the Tacoma News.
For Otness, that place for now is catcher – a position he is trying to learn.
“They converted me with two days left in spring training,” said Otness, who played the position only a handful of times at UW.
...
Otness, who primarily played second base and third base at Washington, is still trying to pick up on all the nuances that go into playing catcher. He knows that it will take time.
Well, that's a pessimistic way of putting it, but, in a word, yes.
In aggregate, I think the offense will remain a big plus. Any declines (CF, C) should be balanced by modest improvement elsewhere (LF, 2B, 1B, SS). The bench will remain a strength if Cora hits at all and Payton is replaced by another suitable 4th OF.
The starting rotation is good, but less than reliable. Much depends on when Schilling can get back in there and how effectively he pitches once he returns to starting. A playoff rotation of Schilling/Clement/Arroyo/Wakefield is a lot more formidable than one that subtracts Schilling and adds Wells or Miller.
The bullpen is simply dreadful, and I don't expect it to improve without adding a couple good arms through trade. This is not a happy place to be given the volatility of middle relief performance. The quickest, most reliable way to fix the pen is to trade for quantities with inherently small sample sizes. Hopefully the FO can pull that off using redundant pieces (like the senior corner infielders) and not much of future value.
Stern probably *IS* going to be the 4th OF. He has to spend pretty much the whole rest of the season on the ML roster to get enough consecutive days in, or else he'll be under Rule V rules next year...
Stern probably *IS* going to be the 4th OF. He has to spend pretty much the whole rest of the season on the ML roster to get enough consecutive days in, or else he'll be under Rule V rules next year...
Actually, he'll be under Rule V rules regardless.
You need 90 days on the ML roster to become property of a new team. There are 88 days left in the season.
Unless postseason play counts or something.
1. Trot Nixon facing LHP on a regular basis.
2. Kevin Millar playing RF on a platoon basis.
Daddy no like.
Is this statement correct? My understanding was that a player can become an FA at the end of the year if traded in the middle of a contract.
Stern probably *IS* going to be the 4th OF.
Stern, a leftie, does not make a good 4th OF for a team with Damon and Nixon. Would the Sox bring up Ambres as a 5th OF and release/trade Millar?
He has to spend pretty much the whole rest of the season on the ML roster to get enough consecutive days in, or else he'll be under Rule V rules next year...
How did the Sox manage to keep DiNardo? Was it because his DL time came after he was on the 25-man roster?
Correct, Payton can't *demand* squat until the conclusion of this season. He supposedly threw a tantrum last night, which caused the FO to want him gone ASAP.
Stern, a leftie, does not make a good 4th OF for a team with Damon and Nixon.
True, but with all the hoops they've jumped through for Stern, he isn't going back to ATL if the Braves don't agree to some sort of trade.
How did the Sox manage to keep DiNardo?
I believe he spent 90 straight days on the ML roster, which qualifies.
It used to require special permission from the comissioner's office, but that requirement seems to have been relaxed/removed the last few years....
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