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Wednesday, April 27, 2005

Red Sox - DLed Schilling

Boston Red Sox - Are about to place P Curt Schilling on the 15-day DL.

I appreciate the argument that Pedro is a little risky because of his health, but it’s hard to use that argument when 3/5ths of your rotation is pushing 40, one of whom has an iffy injury record over his career and one other’s idea of conditioning is drinking light beer before getting into a bar brawl, that’s a pretty loose thread.

This has to be troublesome for the Red Sox, who are, like the Yankees, not very well prepared for bad things to happen to their rotation.  The Sox have gone from the point when getting an iffy Wade Miller back was a sweet bonus to actually needing him to be healthy.  John Halama’s already stuck in the rotation for the time being and not having Miller means either having to use Lenny Dinardo as a starter or purchasing the contracts of Timmy Kester or Jeremi Gonzalez, none of which are particularly appealing prospects.

Amazingly, the Orioles, who never plan for anything, are in a better shape to handle injuries than either the Red Sox or the Yankees.  Both Rick Bauer or John Parrish can start in emergencies or John Maine can be pushed a bit; none of these players are great, but it beats what the Sox and Yanks will have to do if their rotations continue to fall apart.

Dan Szymborski Posted: April 27, 2005 at 05:48 PM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Mister High Standards Posted: April 27, 2005 at 06:11 PM (#1292865)
I would wager Abe Alverez will get any starts in Schilling place. He is on the 40 man, and highly thought of by the front office.
   2. philly Posted: April 27, 2005 at 06:15 PM (#1292882)
Theo has apparently said that Jeremi Gonzalez is the 31 option on a pre-game show or WEEI or something.
   3. 1k5v3L Posted: April 27, 2005 at 06:18 PM (#1292906)
Hanley Ramirez for Ben Sheets!
   4. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: April 27, 2005 at 06:21 PM (#1292912)
I would bet that it's going to be Halama and DiNardo for now, and that they'll turn to Gonzalez if one of those two doesn't pitch well.
   5. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: April 27, 2005 at 06:24 PM (#1292925)
Looks like Ol' Scratch is coming to collect on that debt, doesn't it?
   6. CraigK Posted: April 27, 2005 at 06:54 PM (#1293038)
one other’s idea of conditioning is drinking light beer before getting into a bar brawl

Primey for the intro, if that's allowed.
   7. Kurt Posted: April 27, 2005 at 06:58 PM (#1293061)
Is it too early to start talking about the Orioles' chances to win the division?
   8. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 27, 2005 at 07:10 PM (#1293101)
Is it too early to start talking about the Orioles' chances to win the division?

NaGaHappen.
   9. bunyon Posted: April 27, 2005 at 07:15 PM (#1293121)
Kurt, I was just about to post exactly that. I think the O's are a decent team. If both the Yanks and the Sox implode, they have a fairly good shot, I would think. Certainly if only one of those two collapses, they would have to be a decent bet to win the Wild Card. Chances for either are low, certainly, but if I were an O's fan I'd be cautiously optimistic.
   10. bunyon Posted: April 27, 2005 at 07:17 PM (#1293126)
If both the Yanks and the Sox implode, they have a fairly good shot, I would think.

Before anyone piles on, I confess that this is a really stupid sentence.
   11. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: April 27, 2005 at 07:19 PM (#1293137)
Bronson Arroyo was sighted dancing naked in the streets....
   12. RP Posted: April 27, 2005 at 07:35 PM (#1293194)
Both Rick Bauer or John Parrish can start in emergencies or John Maine can be pushed a bit; none of these players are great, but it beats what the Sox and Yanks will have to do if their rotations continue to fall apart.

They also have Dubose, who's been pitching well in AA (and W. Young if they need to replace Palmeiro).
   13. Honkie Kong Posted: April 27, 2005 at 08:08 PM (#1293365)
Wait for the O's midseason swoon where they lose 13 in a row :)

This is a very impressive start by the O's considering they have been playing mainly intra-division.
Now they have to go out of the division, and beat the crap out of the rest of the league like the Big 2 usually do! I am looking forward to the Braves-Os series, Very good pitching ( Braves ) v Very good hitting (Os ), and very AAA hitting ( Braves ) v AAA pitching ( Os )
   14. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 27, 2005 at 08:11 PM (#1293375)
I still think the O's offense is being overrated. They have a nice top 5, but it tails off sharply from there.
   15. Marc Sully's not booin'. He's Youkin'. Posted: April 27, 2005 at 08:13 PM (#1293391)
...but it tails off sharply from there.

But I don't think as badly as some think. I think they will be able to squeez acceptable production out of some combo of Gibbons, Matos, Bigbie, Surhoff, Newhan and Palmeiro. Gibbons and Matos in particular are nowhere near as bad as they played last year.
   16. Boots Day Posted: April 27, 2005 at 08:27 PM (#1293455)
This thread is going to have to pick up the pace if it's going to compete with the two other Curt Schilling threads currently on Hot Topics.
   17. RP Posted: April 27, 2005 at 08:36 PM (#1293483)
Matos was excellent in 2003, and so far this year he's hitting over .300 with a 7-3 BB-K rate, and has 7 SBs in 8 attempts. Pretty impressive. I don't think he'll be Carlos Beltran or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a 100-110 OPS+ and steals 20 bases at a 75% clip. Combined with good defense in CF, that's a good player.

Gibbons put up a 110 OPS+ in 2003, and I don't see why he couldn't do that again.

Surhoff had a 100 OPS+ last year. Perfectly fine for a 4th OF/1B/DH/PH.
   18. NewCenturyPilgrim Posted: April 27, 2005 at 08:38 PM (#1293487)
Geez. What's your definition of "being prepared"? The Red Sox had six starters slotted for May and one in reserve in the bullpen (Halama). Theo spent the Winter stockpiling arms that are currently distributed throughout the minor league system. There aren't any Cy Young candidates in the bunch but that's a function of availability and not because the Red Sox weren't anticipating the problems.
   19. Dave Cyprian Posted: April 27, 2005 at 09:26 PM (#1293755)
Seriously. Your definition of "being prepared" is having 7 starters better then Halama?
   20. Erik A Posted: April 27, 2005 at 09:31 PM (#1293767)
Red Sox Backup Starters versus Baltimore Backup Starters - A comparison via PECOTA projection

Red Sox
Name EqERA
J. Halama 4.97
J. Gonazalez 4.84
L. DiNardo 4.18
A. Alvarez 4.37

Baltimore
Name EqERA
R. Bauer 4.86
J. Parrish 4.76
J. Maine 4.77
E. DuBose 4.79


Those groups look fairly comparable to me, with possible edge to Sox.
   21. Marc Sully's not booin'. He's Youkin'. Posted: April 27, 2005 at 09:49 PM (#1293801)
Seriously. Your definition of "being prepared" is having 7 starters better then Halama?

Sounds fine to me. Are you really supposed to be able to go 8 starters deep? If so, who does?
   22. Honkie Kong Posted: April 27, 2005 at 10:01 PM (#1293834)
Are you really supposed to be able to go 8 starters deep? If so, who does?

The Royals? :)
   23. DKDC Posted: April 28, 2005 at 01:38 AM (#1294416)
Those groups look fairly comparable to me, with possible edge to Sox

The entire Orioles rotation is under 30 and all but Bedard have excellent health records. The Orioles are less likely to need to dip into their backups, so going 4 deep for the O's means you should be going 6 deep for the Sox.

Even if you do call it even, there's no excuse for a $130MM team to not have better depth than a $60MM team.
   24. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 28, 2005 at 02:55 PM (#1295154)
I'm not sure it's posible for a team with even an infinite payroll to have more than a certain number of acceptable starting depth. You could have 8 great starters, but at least 3 guys are going to be miserable and make a huge amount of trouble in the clubhouse. It's not like you can have tons of quality pitching stashed in AAA all the time. It's not a good use of resources when they could be flipped for stuff the team really needs. Yeah you could say, screw the guys who are stuck in the bullpen and in AAA, but who would sign to your team again if they knew they were just going to be a spare part. They would go somewhere else where they were guarenteed a job.
   25. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 28, 2005 at 02:58 PM (#1295158)
amount. more than a certain amount of acceptable starting depth.

I'm on muscle relaxers today for my shoulder. Did you know you can sort of sprain your shoulder? I didn't. It stinks.
   26. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 28, 2005 at 02:59 PM (#1295161)
But the medication is great! Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!

Ok, I'm done.
   27. Loren F. Posted: April 28, 2005 at 04:12 PM (#1295323)
What does Piniella say about all this?

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