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— A Timely Look at Transactions as They Happen
Thursday, July 31, 2008
Red Sox - May or May Not Have Acquired Bay
Boston Red Sox - Engaged in a big 3-way trade with the Los Angeles Dodgers and Pittsburgh Pirates that’s too long to describe in a single line.
OK, let’s take it one-by-one. Assuming of course, this one is correct. After wacky back-and-forth rumorings-a-transpiring, I don’t know what to believe anymore.
The Pirates trade Jason Bay and get Andy LaRoche, Bryan Morris, Brandon Moss, and Craig Hansen. I like this package better than the Brignac deal. They improve the outfield depth and get LaRoche, who, when completely healthy, is a more completed prospect than Brignac is, although not a shortstop. Like I said in the previous Bay trade entry, it’s the kind of thing the Pirates do need to do, even if Bonifay and Littlefield were too incompetent to build a team properly. LaRoche has been tentative since coming back, but hopefully that’ll be ironed out for ‘09. Morris-and-Hansen both have issues to work out in the minors, but they’re about as good as Niemann.
The Dodgers give up LaRoche and Morris for Manny Ramirez. They should’ve taken Bay, who I’m not convinced is, at this point in their careers, any lesser a player than Manny when defense is included, and he’s signed reasonably for next season. I’m also not convinced that the Dodgers will end up making the best of the situation - they finally just started taking playing time from Andruw Jones and John Peter, craptastic outfielder, always seems to get playing time no matter what degree of horrible he’s playing in a specific time period. It’s not a disaster if they go with a Ramirez-Kemp-Ethier outfield, but I don’t think they will and even if they do, the Dodgers are only competing to be the least lousy NL West team. Of course, it worked for the Cards a couple years ago.
The Red Sox give Hansen, Moss, and Ramirez for Bay. The Red Sox get rid of their problem and get an essentially equal, cheaper, younger player, but give up Hansen and Moss for it. I’m not sure, however, either really figured into their long term plans. Hansen, in particular, kind of fell out of favor - the Red Sox tried to turbo him to the majors the way the A’s did with Huston Street, but Hansen just wasn’t ready then and he’s not really ready now. Like a lot of pitchers of the type, he just needs to throw more strikes, but that’s easier said than done.
Projections forthcoming - wanted to get the transaction up before the 400 post thread tires everyone up.
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