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Monday, July 24, 2006

San Diego Padres - Acquired Williamson

San Diego Padres - Acquired P Mark Williamson from the Chicago Cubs for P Joel Santo and P Fabian Jimenez.

Apparently, Krivsky was right - the price of decent relievers has skyrocketed for competing teams, as evidenced by the Padres giving up Mike Cameron to the Windy City Boys. Oh, wait, they didn’t, they got a decent reliever for 2 live arms that walk a billion batters.

Nice pickup by the Padres. There was no desperate need for a relief pitcher due to a suprising large list of People Who Shouldn’t Be Effective But Have Been featuring such names as Jon Adkins and Scott Cassidy. But more’s always better (and Williamson’s chunky ERA should come down quite a bit).

[Note - this is supposed to be Scott Williamson -DS]

Dan Szymborski Posted: July 24, 2006 at 09:36 PM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. Raleigh Horn Posted: July 24, 2006 at 10:22 PM (#2110186)

Uh, I think they got Mark's brother Scott.

2. G A Delgado Posted: July 24, 2006 at 11:52 PM (#2110341)

I like the move. Hoffy isn't going to pitch forever and Linebrink has been hit more than before lately. We still need a competent 3rd baseman.

3. Fred Garvin is dead and Joe Biden is alive Posted: July 24, 2006 at 11:57 PM (#2110358)

Good point, Dan -- given the going rate, the Cubs should have at least gotten a Khalil Greene out of the deal.

4. G A Delgado Posted: July 25, 2006 at 12:42 AM (#2110491)

The deal would have never hapend if they would ask for Greene

5. Gern Blanston Posted: July 25, 2006 at 01:04 AM (#2110608)

Think that was sarcasm on dJf's part, GA.

6. Mike Emeigh

Posted: July 25, 2006 at 01:14 AM (#2110634)

We still need a competent 3rd baseman.

Joe Randa's available. Oh wait, that was last year...

-- MWE

7. Ozzie's gay friend Posted: July 25, 2006 at 02:11 AM (#2110867)

mark teahen

8. Darren

Posted: July 25, 2006 at 03:20 AM (#2111049)

Per SOSH: ESPN radio says the Mets have acquired Meche for Heilman. Blech for the Mets.

9. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: July 25, 2006 at 03:23 AM (#2111055)

Per SOSH: ESPN radio says the Mets have acquired Meche for Heilman. Blech for the Mets.

If that's true, Minaya's an idiot. How bad do you have to be to get fleeced by Bavasi?

10. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: July 25, 2006 at 03:33 AM (#2111070)

Are you guys serious? Heilman had a very nice season last year and might turn into a good middle of the rotation starter. He's also having a mediocre season this year and hasn't actually ever pitched all that well as a starter year.

Meche has always been talented and still is only 27 years old. The Mets can offer him arbitration and get a draft pick for him. Sure the Mets are paying a heavy price, but there are certainly worse deals to be made.

It's a seller's market. I can live with that deal if it is true.

11. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: July 25, 2006 at 03:43 AM (#2111077)

Meche doesn't do anything that Heilman couldn't do himself. He's had himself a strong 20 starts in 2006, but the guy's pitched 143.3, 127.7, and 186.3 innings over the last three years prior to 2006, while posting a 90 ERA+.

Over the balance of the season, I'm far from convinced that he could outperform Heilman.

12. Dr. Vaux Posted: July 25, 2006 at 03:48 AM (#2111081)

That's what's annoying. Heilman would be a better starter than Meche, most likely. But the Mets won't use him that way, so the next best thing would be to trade him for a comparable guy that they will use. I have a hard time believing that Omar would trade Heilman without acquiring another reliever first, though.

13. 1k5v3L

Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:01 AM (#2111098)

Wait, Mets fans hated the idea of trading Heilman for Vazquez or Garcia, pitchers they would control for more than a few months at OK deals, but are OK with trading Heilman for Meche?

I haven't seen such a bunch of sorry-a$$ flip-floppers since the 2004 presidential debates...

14. NTNgod Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:06 AM (#2111101)

Wait, Mets fans hated the idea of trading Heilman for Vazquez or Garcia, pitchers they would control for more than a few months at OK deals, but are OK with trading Heilman for Meche?

That's the power of Steve Trachsel.

Looking around, it looks like SEA wanted Heilman+, so no deal (yet).

15. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:11 AM (#2111105)

Looking around, it looks like SEA wanted Heilman+, so no deal (yet).

If that's true, then Bavasi is a bigger idiot than Minaya.

God, this must be like it is to watch two retards try to f--k...

16. 1k5v3L

Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:12 AM (#2111106)

Fwiw, mlbtraderumors.com claims that the Heilman for Meche swap is a hoax...

17. NTNgod Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:14 AM (#2111109)

Checking USSMariner, they claim Bavasi wanted Heilman + Fernando Martinez.

18. 1k5v3L

Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:15 AM (#2111110)

Btw, I agree with 6-4-3 that Bavasi should immediately jump on a Heilman-for-Meche swap.

And, having agreed with 6-4-3, I'm now waiting for the world to end...

19. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:18 AM (#2111114)

And, having agreed with 6-4-3, I'm now waiting for the world to end...

I'm not really any happier about it than you.

Damn, another thing that we've found common ground on...

20. 1k5v3L

Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:18 AM (#2111115)

If the USSMariner claim is true, Bavasi should cover his head with olive oil and shove it up his behind. What a moron.

21. J. Cross Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:36 AM (#2111136)

Too bad this is a hoax, IMO. I would have been happy with this, in part because it would (probably) mean that the Mets aren't giving up a top prospect for a starter. Also, Meche is throwing well right now, could indeed yield a draft pick and Heilman's remaining year as a reserve player isn't too much to give up. (I'm not entirely convinced that Heilman would be a good starter although I think there's a chance he would be.)

22. J. Cross Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:39 AM (#2111140)

Heilman and F. Martinez for Meche, on the other hand, would be a terrible deal indeed. If that was offered I'm very glad that Omar rejected it.

I'd definitely consider Heilman + Soler for Meche though.

23. J. Cross Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:42 AM (#2111145)

Why would Bavasi be an idiot for not wanting to deal Meche for Heilman with his team 4 games out of the division? Heilman has had one good year as a set-up guy but really isn't that valuable of a property.

24. Sam M. Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:43 AM (#2111148)

Ahem -- wouldn't it make more sense to move this discussion to the actual Meche/Heilman thread? ;-)

25. J. Cross Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:45 AM (#2111150)

I suppose it might.

26. 1k5v3L

Posted: July 25, 2006 at 04:45 AM (#2111151)

Sam, it's the Mets thing to do... hijacking threads on primer :)

27. Kyle S Posted: July 25, 2006 at 01:49 PM (#2111346)

Sweet, so I just posted something on the other thread and it got deleted.

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