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Thursday, December 08, 2005

Tigers - Signed T. Jones

Detroit Tigers - Signed P Todd Jones to a 2-year contract worth an undisclosed sum that I’m guessing is in the $8 to $10 million range.

Percival, Urbina, Jones.  The Detroit Tigers:  Wasting Money on Closers So You Don’t Have To.

Todd Jones had a pretty 2005, but before that, hadn’t been a good pitcher for half a decade.  Pass.  I don’t think he’ll match the projection.

2006 ZiPS Projection - Todd Jones
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W   L   G GS   IP   H   ER HR BB SO   ERA
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6   4 70   0   76   74   33   5 23 54 3.91

 

Dan Szymborski Posted: December 08, 2005 at 05:38 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: December 08, 2005 at 05:59 AM (#1766885)
Well, Urbina turned out pretty well for them. They got a solid season and a half from him for a decent price and then traded him for Polanco whom they signed to a very reasonable contract extension.
   2. peter21 Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:14 AM (#1766932)
So has no one in the Tigers organization heard of Troy Percival? Or do they think the if they could just add a reliever who had one good year, maybe, JUST MAYBE they can't win games 97, 98, and 99 and win the division? After all, they can't be confident with the 96 that they're projecting for themselves...
   3. peter21 Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:16 AM (#1766942)
**CAN win. Damnit, now the sarcasm is lost...
   4. Fear is Moses Taylor's Bacon Bits Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:16 AM (#1766946)
This is worse than the Percival signing last year.
   5. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: December 08, 2005 at 06:21 AM (#1766962)
8-10? Do we have any money left for a starter?

And peter21, lot's of people here were making similar snarky comments about the White Sox last winter. I'd be surprised if the Tigers won 85 games, but, you know, just saying. And the offseason's not over yet.
   6. chemdoc Posted: December 08, 2005 at 03:13 PM (#1767362)
The "roller coaster man" returns...

If Jones hits that ZIPS projection, everyone will be surprised and Tigers' fans will be ecstatic. I think they may have money left for a starter, but I have serious doubts that they'll get one worth having. The Verlander watch continues...
   7. Buddha Posted: December 08, 2005 at 05:08 PM (#1767604)
Eh. It's only two years and they needed arms in the pen to tide them over until the prospects are ready.

No big loss. No big gain.

It's not the end of the world and it's not going to prohibit them from signing anyone else or "investing money in the farm system."

As for their history with closers, Percival was a busy, Urbina turned out well and so did Farnsworth for the limited time he was there (although I was assured that Roberto Novoa would be just as good, funny how that didn't work out). 2/3 ain't bad.

Would you rather have Todd Jones for 2 years or BJ Ryan for five?
   8. Dewey, Crackpot and Soupuss Posted: December 08, 2005 at 05:27 PM (#1767666)
And peter21, lot's of people here were making similar snarky comments about the White Sox last winter.

And that deal doesn't look that different from the El Duque or Hermanson signings (signings I wasn't happy with at the time, either).
   9. gyros Posted: December 08, 2005 at 07:09 PM (#1767893)
Yeah, it's a bad price, but the vicious Detroit media will hopefully be mollified and the Tigers haven't done any real damage to their future, which is all that's important. Fernando Rodney or Kevin Whelan will probably wind up being the closer in '07 and if Jones hasn't gone all Matt Anderson on us perhaps they'll be able to flip him (and many bags of cash) for something.

Detroit has the city of Detroit and many years of losing working against it. If they're going to sign people, they're going to overpay. That's why I wish they'd just quit signing people. Odds are Fernando Rodney will outperform Jones this season.
   10. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: December 09, 2005 at 01:10 AM (#1768731)
Would you rather have Todd Jones for 2 years or BJ Ryan for five?

BJ Ryan for five, please.
   11. Shalimar Posted: December 09, 2005 at 02:37 AM (#1768885)
I thought Jones was in prison for molesting homosexuals. Did they let him out early or something?
   12. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: December 09, 2005 at 02:47 AM (#1768899)
Detroit has a vicious media? Or is that a joke? I figured they would be numb from all the losing.

And what ever happened to Matt Anderson?
   13. Buddha Posted: December 09, 2005 at 06:38 PM (#1769899)
BJ Ryan for five, please.

I'll take Zumaya and Wheland in two.
   14. Sir Loin- My dad owns a dealership Posted: December 09, 2005 at 09:54 PM (#1770308)
I'd have waited too, but last year the pen was so crappy they HAD to do something. If he pans out, great, if not, Rodney and German get pressed into service again. Personally, I hate the dude. Is Zumaya ready for a bullpen stint this year?

Matt Anderson (and his bong) went far away. Pothead.

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