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Monday, May 14, 2007

Twins - DFAed Gallant Sir Sidney

Minnesota Twins - Designated P Sidney Ponson for assignment.

Good move by the Twins.  They can now go back to the serious task of trying to win games of baseball and let Hooibergen Calhøun go back to eating deep-fried hippos or drunk-driving while eating 4 dozen sliders from Wit Kasteel or whatever else he normally does with his life.

The move leaves the Twins with a question as to which young starter to bring up to fill Ponson’s spot in the rotation.  The Twins still like Kevin Slowey and he’s been utterly dominating at AAA, so you have to like his odds the best.  There’s the concern about service time, but the Twins are quickly becoming the 4th team in a 3-team race and don’t have time to diddle around and avoid any chance at having to pay Slowey super-two money (which really isn’t usually all that impressive) down the road.  Scott Baker doesn’t seem to be in the Twins plans, so he’s unlikely and while Matt Garza’s also a tremendous talent, the Twins want him to iron out some control issues before promoting him.

Of course, considering the Twins spent the offseason ignoring their ordinary offense to figure out the best way to block all 3 of their top prospects simultaneously, I half expect them to call up Dave Gassner or say #### it and sign Scott Erickson or Mike Smithson or someone.

Dan Szymborski Posted: May 14, 2007 at 01:45 PM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Latnam's first name is Bob Lemon's middle name Posted: May 14, 2007 at 03:17 PM (#2363418)
I'm sure the Braves would consider trading Mark Redman.
   2. Michael Fischer Posted: May 14, 2007 at 04:26 PM (#2363476)
Look who's back!
   3. Kirby Kyle Posted: May 14, 2007 at 04:35 PM (#2363485)
The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported yesterday that Baker would be the most likely callup, although that may have been conjecture.
   4. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: May 14, 2007 at 04:35 PM (#2363486)
The Minneapolis Star Tribune seems to think it will be Baker.
   5. andrewberg Posted: May 14, 2007 at 04:53 PM (#2363500)
I'm hoping this will become known as the 2007 "Batista moment"
   6. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 14, 2007 at 05:22 PM (#2363516)
I saw the speculation, but I really don't think the Twins are as high on Baker as they are on the others.
   7. Mike Emeigh Posted: May 14, 2007 at 05:37 PM (#2363524)
I saw the speculation, but I really don't think the Twins are as high on Baker as they are on the others.


I don't think they are either, but I don't think they want to push either Slowey or Garza to the majors at this point, especially as a fifth starter who is a good candidate to be skipped over in the rotation.

-- MWE
   8. TFTIO is familiar with the work of Pablo Neruda Posted: May 14, 2007 at 05:46 PM (#2363530)
I saw the speculation, but I really don't think the Twins are as high on Baker as they are on the others.


Which is inexplicable. Baker's a fine choice.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 14, 2007 at 06:02 PM (#2363540)
They had some Minnesota beat writer (perhaps from the Tribune) on radio just now and he said its probably Baker because they don't want to start the service clock on Garza or Slowey just yet.
   10. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: May 14, 2007 at 06:28 PM (#2363557)
Loewen, Weaver, Ponson... who's next? At least Josh Beckett got hurt before the Tigers could get to him. Watch out Daisuke!
   11. WillYoung Posted: May 14, 2007 at 06:28 PM (#2363558)
I don't think they are either, but I don't think they want to push either Slowey or Garza to the majors at this point, especially as a fifth starter who is a good candidate to be skipped over in the rotation.

Which is exactly what screwed up Baker last year in the first place. In his first 15 career starts through early 2006, the guy had a career ERA of 3.87. Then, they skipped his turn before his start on May 15. From that point on, he has had 10 career starts with an ERA of 7.58.

But while Sir Sidney couldn't get himself skipped in the rotation early this year, you better believe the Twins will let Scott Baker get rusty pitching once every 10 days.
   12. TakeandRake Posted: May 14, 2007 at 07:46 PM (#2363640)
Its amazing that Ponson even got the chance to pitch this year for how bad he is.
   13. Optimus_Primate Posted: May 14, 2007 at 10:10 PM (#2363770)
Who will replace Ortiz next month?
   14. Dr. Vaux Posted: May 15, 2007 at 03:51 AM (#2364526)
Well, even though the Twins are a division opponent, I'm pulling for Baker. The way the Twins organization has treated him is execrable.
   15. Cris E Posted: May 15, 2007 at 03:56 AM (#2364532)
Garza was up last year and he's on the 40 man. Slowey hasn't lost his cherry yet.
   16. zonk Posted: May 15, 2007 at 02:30 PM (#2364725)
I was thinking what age we live in... they heydays and then the swan songs of both Russ Ortiz and Sidney Ponson.

Has there every been an instance of two worse pitcher whose real 'value' is so inverse to the CW of their value?

... and aren't their career lines and downfalls eerily similar?

You've got the corpse of Ponson holding back Twins prospects, while the corpse of Ortiz kept Lincecum on the farm.

Being inherently evil, if there's one thing I would wish on teams I dislike -- it would be seeing both Russ Ortiz and Sid Ponson in its rotation.... Aren't the Yankees having trouble finding SPs?
   17. Randy Jones Posted: May 15, 2007 at 02:32 PM (#2364727)
Ponson pitched for the Yankees last year, he isn't getting another chance with them.
   18. zonk Posted: May 15, 2007 at 02:39 PM (#2364737)
I suppose the Cardinals learned their lesson, too...

Maybe the Mets when Glavine finally gets old and OP reverts from 3 good starts/1 awful to 3 awful/1 good?
   19. Furious George Posted: May 15, 2007 at 02:44 PM (#2364739)
In honor of Ponson's graceful exit from Minnesota:

http://dugout.progressiveboink.com/archive/b67.html
   20. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney) Posted: May 15, 2007 at 04:58 PM (#2364809)
How come nobody has tried Ponson as a reliever? He still threw pretty hard at 92-94 and you think you could teach him a decent slider and just tell him to throw fastball and slider only.
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 15, 2007 at 05:07 PM (#2364816)
Can't fit him in the bullpen? Afraid he'd eat the other relievers?
   22. Craig in MN Posted: May 15, 2007 at 07:30 PM (#2364916)
How come nobody has tried Ponson as a reliever? He still threw pretty hard at 92-94 and you think you could teach him a decent slider and just tell him to throw fastball and slider only.

That's the first time I've seen someone suggest that, but it seems like a decent idea. I could see him possibly being ok in a more focused role. Maybe he's just stubborn and wants to be a starter, but all the Twins management seemed to like his attitude while he was here. The Twins could have sent Perkins down to get some innings and used Ponson as their 12th reliever for a while to see if he can adapt to that. I don't get wasting Perkin's service time as a mop-up man. The worst case scenario is you waste a month seeing what he's got in a few blowouts, and the best case scenario is you have another solid reliever.

Of course, if the Twins were up for shuffling the pieces, they could try Ponson in RF....he might be an upgrade there as well.
   23. DCW3 Posted: May 15, 2007 at 07:37 PM (#2364921)
How come nobody has tried Ponson as a reliever? He still threw pretty hard at 92-94 and you think you could teach him a decent slider and just tell him to throw fastball and slider only.

Supposedly the Cardinals wanted to move him to the bullpen last year when they picked up Weaver, but Ponson told them he'd rather be released.
   24. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney) Posted: May 15, 2007 at 07:40 PM (#2364923)
Well you think Sid would have no choice if he wanted to stay in the majors, but he probably has enough money already where he'd rather just relax on the beach in Aruba than try to be a reliever.
   25. The Buddy Biancalana Hit Counter Posted: May 15, 2007 at 07:45 PM (#2364927)
Supposedly the Cardinals wanted to move him to the bullpen last year when they picked up Weaver, but Ponson told them he'd rather be released.

They obviously didn't offer to reinstate the bullpen cart in order to shorten his commute to the mound.
   26. DL from MN Posted: May 15, 2007 at 07:49 PM (#2364932)
> I don't get wasting Perkin's service time as a mop-up man.

He's already 24, get some value out of him while you can and get his feet wet.
   27. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: May 15, 2007 at 07:52 PM (#2364934)
You've got the corpse of Ponson holding back Twins prospects, while the corpse of Ortiz kept Lincecum on the farm.
That's not true about Ortiz.
   28. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: May 15, 2007 at 07:58 PM (#2364938)
Well you think Sid would have no choice if he wanted to stay in the majors, but he probably has enough money already where he'd rather just relax on the beach in Aruba than try to be a reliever.

When Sir Sidney is at the beach, relaxation isn't on the agenda. He's there to carry on his war with the local judiciary.
   29. Craig in MN Posted: May 15, 2007 at 08:25 PM (#2364960)
He's already 24, get some value out of him while you can and get his feet wet.

It wouldn't hurt him to get his feet wet at AAA a little bit as well. He's got a whole 10 innings pitched at AAA in his career, and he'd pitch twice as many innings there as he would as the Twins mopup guy. I think he needs innings as much as he needs MLB experience. Everyone with the Twins says they want him to be a starter and it sounds like they'd rather not have him in the bullpen.

As for his age, Scott Baker is already 26 and has 300+ pretty good AAA innings under his belt. They could just as easily get some value out of him in the big leagues as well.
   30. andrewberg Posted: May 16, 2007 at 12:51 AM (#2365316)
Ponson is what we thought he was! If you want to knight him, then knight his ass! He is what we thought he was!
   31. DL from MN Posted: May 16, 2007 at 01:53 PM (#2365616)
I think Perkins is on the Santana/Liriano Earl Weaver memorial LH bullpen development plan. The Twins will be getting some value out of Scott Baker very soon.
   32. Darrel_Thomas'_English_Muffin Posted: May 22, 2007 at 04:31 PM (#2374136)
You can really deep fry a hippo?

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