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Thursday, May 05, 2005

Yankees - Activated Sturtze

New York Yankees - Activated P Tanyon Sturtze from the 15-day DL; Optioned P Sean Henn to Columbus.

Silly Sean - only really expensive veterans are allowed to pitch that poorly.  In all seriousness, Henn probably needs to pitch in AAA for awhile, but I hope he gets a chance outside the Yankee organization; you hate to see a guy make a long, grueling, comeback from injury and then get 1 game to show his stuff.

There’s really no reason for Tanyon Sturtze to be on the team - the chances of Steve Karsay being useful are far, far higher than Sturtze ever being useful.  They really should have just waited a few days, DFAed Sturtze instead, and then called up Cano.

Dan Szymborski Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:13 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Psychedelic Red Pants Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:25 PM (#1313461)
A lot of people underestimate the importance of well-ordered deck chairs.
   2. 1k5v3L Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:27 PM (#1313469)
I like Strut Tze Tze. He's a killa
   3. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:31 PM (#1313480)
Activated Sturtze: the precursor to activated charcoal.
   4. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:33 PM (#1313486)
Can Sturtze play center?
   5. Larry Bowa Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:38 PM (#1313499)
I like the deck chairs; it's the ship I'm not wild about.
   6. SM in DC Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:46 PM (#1313531)
There’s really no reason for Tanyon Sturtze to be on the team - the chances of Steve Karsay being useful are far, far higher than Sturtze ever being useful.

I couldn't disagree more Dan. Steve Hearsay isn't the same guy that was a heck of a reliever a couple of years ago.

Sturtze has apparently "discovered" the cutter and outside of one bad outing vs. the O's has been stellar so far this year and down the stretch last year.

Now if you believe, like I and many Yankee fans do, that those gains are real, then Sturtze is a useful bullpen part. Plus, he gives the team a legit longman/setup guy as opposed to trotting Paul Quantrill out in the 4th inning.
   7. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:51 PM (#1313541)
If we could cut out the worst 33% of a reliever's outings, everyone would look good.
   8. Loren F. Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:54 PM (#1313550)
I have to second that. Karsay may prove useful to some team, but right now Sturtze is one of the more reliable arms in the bullpen (although that also says something about the bullpen beyond Mo).
   9. Hack Wilson Posted: May 05, 2005 at 03:55 PM (#1313551)
If we could cut out the worst 33% of a reliever's outings, everyone would look good.
Felix Heredia?
   10. Women's Lib is Ms.Guided Posted: May 05, 2005 at 04:04 PM (#1313573)
If we could cut out the worst 33% of a reliever's outings, everyone would look good.

The problem with your argument is that you can't take 33% of nothing, which is what we know about Karsay's current health and ability.

Sturtze over Karsay right now is a no-brainer.
   11. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 05, 2005 at 04:52 PM (#1313689)
At Sturtze's general level of perfomance, health is a bad thing.
   12. Toolsy McClutch Posted: May 05, 2005 at 05:01 PM (#1313714)
So, any ideas on what's wrong with those Yankees?
   13. Toolsy McClutch Posted: May 05, 2005 at 05:01 PM (#1313716)
Oh, I wanted to say I think a lack of 'leadership' is what's killing them this year.
   14. SM in DC Posted: May 05, 2005 at 05:22 PM (#1313786)
What you're not taking into account Dan is the acquisition of a new pitch. We need to look at Sturtze's career in two phases - pre-cutter and post-cutter.
   15. bob gee Posted: May 05, 2005 at 05:31 PM (#1313839)
it's veteran leadership and guys who know how to win that's missing.

was going to post this elsewhere, but i guess the link to this dan wetzel piece:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpbmdmam0wBF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BHNlYwN0bQ--?slug=dw-bronxbombers050505&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

won't get posted as a clutch hit.

he says:
he Yankee teams that won four world championships from 1996-2000 certainly had some highly-paid stars. But they also had a clubhouse full of gutsy competitors, clutch hitters and true winners

and also says that losing 4 in a row wasn't an aberration, but a personality trait.

so, the list of non "true winners" includes:
world series champ randy johnson.
world series champ kevin brown.
world series champ tony womack.
world series champ gary sheffield.
world series champ carl pavano.

gotcha.
   16. bob gee Posted: May 05, 2005 at 05:34 PM (#1313847)
(oops - losing 4 in a row to boston last year).

i wish the mediots would stop falling on cliches, and write about what's happened so far, and the poor offseason moves. but the only ones who are actually citing what's wrong are the bloggers...none of the mainstream mediots.
   17. catomi01 Posted: May 05, 2005 at 05:43 PM (#1313898)
at this point too, you have to take into account who you'd rather have start every tenth day or so because of the various injuries that are going to be part of this staff...karsay might be good, but hasnt started in years, ditto everyone else on the staff, but sturtze at least has some recent expierience in long relief.
   18. Scoriano Flitcraft Posted: May 05, 2005 at 05:46 PM (#1313918)
Sturtze is mediocre but he pitched OK after the break last year. He had one horrible game against the Royals in which he was pounded. I thought he pitched OK in the playoffs, too, and he's relatively cheap. Personally, I think Karsay is done, but I hope he hooks up with a good team and prospers. The guy had immense talent ruined by injuries.
   19. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 05, 2005 at 06:10 PM (#1314028)
I'll have more confidence in Sturtze's new awesomeness when he doesn't just look like a pitcher that has a new pitch that he doesn't have command over and his performance has more to recommend him when one doesn't just pick September 2004 and the appearances in 2005 in which he wasn't bad.
   20. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: May 05, 2005 at 06:16 PM (#1314069)
Dan, given the salaries, if Sturtze has some good appearances, his trade value is miles ahead of Karsay's, if the Yanks should find it necessary to go that route.
   21. Mike Emeigh Posted: May 05, 2005 at 06:53 PM (#1314290)
I'm inclined to agree with SM on Sturtze. He's not the guy you want in high-leverage situations, but he's about as good as it gets for lower-leverage early-inning and midgame situations and the occasional spot start. Kotsay just can't cut it in that role any more.

-- MWE
   22. SG Posted: May 05, 2005 at 07:02 PM (#1314365)
Karsay hasn't recovered his old velocity, he's topping out around 90-91 now. As skeptical as I am of Sturtze, I've seen more good out of him than Karsay and if the choice is between those two, I'd have made the same move.
   23. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: May 05, 2005 at 07:08 PM (#1314415)
Kotsay just can't cut it in that role any more.

I suppose there is something that man can't do.

If only the A's had more than two good players.
   24. CONservative governMENt Posted: May 05, 2005 at 07:10 PM (#1314432)
The chances of Steve Karsay being useful are far, far higher than Sturtze ever being useful.
   25. CONservative governMENt Posted: May 05, 2005 at 07:11 PM (#1314441)
The chances of Steve Karsay being useful are far, far higher than Sturtze ever being useful.
   26. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: May 05, 2005 at 07:32 PM (#1314590)
That Wetzel piece is hilarious. Apparently Bernie and Posada have fallen from the pack of true Yankees, based solely on their performance.

Once Jeter starts getting $20M/yr to hit .260, I wonder if he'll get the same treatment.
   27. TFTIO is familiar with the works of Pablo Neruda Posted: May 05, 2005 at 07:36 PM (#1314622)
A lot of people underestimate the importance of well-ordered deck chairs.

OT: That might be the funniest thing I've ever read on the internet.
   28. MM1f Posted: May 05, 2005 at 08:25 PM (#1314970)
I bet that (Mr. former two-way Fullerton star and CWS stud) Mark Kotsay couldn't be too much worse as a pitcher than Sturtze.
   29. The George Sherrill Selection Posted: May 05, 2005 at 08:25 PM (#1314972)
The Yankees need someone with clubhouse presence, and a bit of pop in his bat.
   30. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2005 at 09:56 PM (#1315160)
People outside of the NY area have no idea how much Yankees fans think of Sturtze. They think he's a major part of 'the answer' for this team.
Not that I agree with them, but the announcers seem to have convinced them all that Sturtze is really good.
Or maybe it's just infectious hysteria or something.
   31. Walt Davis Posted: May 05, 2005 at 11:07 PM (#1315306)
What you're not taking into account Dan is the acquisition of a new pitch. We need to look at Sturtze's career in two phases - pre-cutter and post-cutter.

It did wonders for Esteban Loiaza (the man of the yo-yoing K rates).

Seriously, anytime any batter/pitcher gets "hot" for a stretch, we hear about his new pitch or his talk with the coach or how his puppy's now housebroken to explain it. Then they go back to stinking.

Now if you told me he started taking steroids or pissing on his hands or wearing a new-age leather pouch around his neck, I might believe the change is for real.

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