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Transaction Oracle— A Timely Look at Transactions as They Happen
Wednesday, November 30, 2005
Yanks - Reportedly Signed Farnsworth
New York Yankees - Have reportedly come closer or perhaps signed P Kyle Farnsworth to a 3-year, $17 million contract.
If this doesn’t happen, I’m totally going to close the thread and deny it ever happened.
It’ll be interesting to see how Farnsworth does in New York. Yankee fans are going to either fall in love with Farnsworth or rebel and send him out of town a few feet ahead of a noose sometime in July. I’m going to go with the latter as people find relievers that have runs of horrific control to be quite maddening.
While Leo Mazzone did get a lot of out of Farnsworth for the Braves, the latter was quite good with the Tigers, so perhaps he’s turned the corner instead of being a Jaret Wright pumpkin carriage. I’m kind of surprised that nobody offered Farnsworth a similar contract with the promise to close. The Yankees aren’t the ideal team for Farnsworth - he’d fare better on a team with a good outfield defense, like the White Sox or the Blue Jays.
2006 ZiPS Projection - Kyle Farnsworth
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W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA
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3 2 73 0 70 56 29 7 29 82 3.69
Dan Szymborski
Posted: November 30, 2005 at 05:19 PM | 80 comment(s)
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1. Andere Richtingenhttp://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5122276
I don't think it's necessarily a terrible signing, although you're right, Dan, when you point out that Yankee fans aren't going to have a lot of patience with him.
I hope it sells well, since they'll need to use the money to make up for how badly they overspent. Yeesh.
While Leo Mazzone did get a lot of out of Farnsworth for the Braves, the latter was quite good with the Tigers, so perhaps he's turned the corner instead of being a Jaret Wright pumpkin carriage.
You mean the same corner he turned before 2003? And then went back around in 2004? Color me skeptical.
Farnsworth is a d-khead. Another reason to dislike the Yankees.
Besides, it's alot for a reliever, but not in Yankeeland. A reasonable risk.
Perhaps barely topping the record contracts handed out by the Cubs.
Russo started by saying "Don't do it, I don't like this guy". Cashman tip-toed around and hinted that they had interest in bringing him in, and Russo responded with "But did you see Game 4 last year!". Since Cashman probably knew this was coming, that must have been pretty akward for him.
If he has a 2004 year, he won't be on the Yankees to have the rebound year.
So, let's see, Beane commits about 12% of his budget to Loaiza (guessing 60 mil) and is praised, and the Yanks commit about 3% of theirs (guessing a 180 mil budget; it would be smaller, obviously, if they spend 200 mil again) to a primary set up guy and get hammered?
You talking about Szym's intro or the posters? I wonder how much of an overlap there is.
Oh, and btw, I hate Farnsworth. I hate guys who wear those tight necklaces. I wonder if they had to scratch "steroids" out of the contract?
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Just wait until those tight pinstriped pants. He's also quite the drinker.
They'd jump for joy if I gave them Cs.
yes.
Wow.
have you actually read the loaiza threads?
he just needs to go Paul Wilson on somebody early so that everyone loves him.
If you were paying attention, it's mostly the "Beane worshipping groupthinkers" that have been bashing the Loaiza deal, and the "Beane haters" that have said it's good. And the Beane-respecting Angels fans seem to be overjoyed. Strange dynamic, although not necessarily unexpected. I think the metathread has completely changed the debate on any A's signing.
The Loaiza deal was marginal ... any "Beane worshipper" knows that he'd be going out on a limb if he likes it, so as a CYA measure he doesn't ... and any "Beane hater" sees it as an un-stereotypical-Beane-like deal that the groupthinkers hate but still might turn out well, and so he likes it. Anyway, that's my crackpot theory.
Personally, I just wish everyone would drop the whole Beane hate/worship thing and just talk about the moves on merit alone. It's the worst thing about this site, and it sucks that I can't have a decent discussion about my favorite team without someone coming in to ######### a fanboy or ######### a fanboy ######### and bring back the metathread. I wouldn't mind it once in a while, but every damn time? Stop it. Please. If I weren't an A's fan, I'd be rooting for the A's to win the WS or Beane to resign and go write for Rolling Stone or something, just to shut everyone up for once, instead of only the former for obvious reasons.
I'd say okay, not pretty good. Only because Howry has a history of not being healthy. If Howry weren't an above-average injury risk, I'd say it looks great. Although there's still plenty of offseason yet to change my mind.
That's right. I think the Cubs Chatterers would be more than happy to see a resurrection of the Captain Tightpants nickname for old Farny.
Just don't call him "the Farns" like Chip Caray used to do. I want to throw him through a window every time he said it.
and don't you punks try to patent it. prior art, #######!
And no, it doesn't matter.
It's crapola like this that drives the steroid agnostics like me nuts. What proof does anyone have that Farnsworth is a user?
He's always thrown hard and he's always been a #########. That doesn't make him a steroid user, it makes him a hard-throwing #########.
But he's our ######### apparently, and that's OK with me.
So I guess this means the Tigers overpay for Flash Gordon.
This is one of the reasons why I've started to come around on having the blogs be distinct from each other instead of the big Primer Sack. Oracle and Gonfalon entries, even the busy ones, tend to be very civil, on-point discussions. Same with Minor Key.
I think when there's an A's area to the site, you'll be happier with the amount of A's baseball talked about. Of course, it's not going to be too soon - I've yet to consider who I'd want to get to be in charge of it.
The next areas to debut should be Rangers and Angels.
Not unless they outbid the Phillies.
What's wrong with handing the job to German? Don't you all still have Percival?
Is it just me or is there a big gap between Gordon and every other non-Wagner/Ryan RP on the market? If Farns is worth 3/$17, Gordon won't be overpaid at 3/$24.
When did the doctor become a captain?
yessssssss.
When did the doctor become a captain?
I've heard both, but more Dr. than Captain.
German walks too many batters to be a closer.
I need a query that joins two tables on an ID variable, but spits out only those cases where Table1.Var1 does not equal Table2.Var1. My SQL skills are lame. Anyone?
have you read those AIM logs? that's some serious roid rage!
Especially since the nanny was changed so you can't say d**gw******r
Hey, man, no problem. I just assumed we hated each other.
wish more people were like this..would be more fun. All this brotherly love is sickening.
lets get some cain and abel on #######!
</caffeine rage>
It's been over a year since the Tigers overpaid for a closer, so they're due.
Actually, I was thinking that right about now, Howry and his agent are asking themselves why they didn't wait until after Ryan and Wagner had set the market.
When Paul Wilson took those two steps toward the mound, I was thinking, "6'4", 220#, 5% body fat, hobbies are working out, martial arts, and drinking. Except for the off-duty CPD security guys who are packing, is there anybody in Wrigley Field you would less want to pick a fight with?"
Ding ding ding!
"Did you not SEE game 4 of the NLCS!!??
Wait, so the Yankees picked up Jason Marquis?
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Sorry to brainfart like that. No jwb, not Lahman but some work stuff. It ended up being easier to convert the data to SAS format and do my work that way. My SQL/Access skills blow.
Accen-tu-ate the Positive
E=lim-inate the Negative
Hey, it worked on the Tony Womack signing.
HE'S GOT SPEED! SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDD!
This goes by the assumption that their rotation is : Johnson, Wang, Mussina, Chacon, Pavano.
Methamphetamines are now being tested for. </witty pun>
Hey! Gagne got a good one off. Let's having a standing O
One assumes they'll be acquiring a lefty specialist as well.
Take Rivera out of there and it looks pretty bad to me.
One assumes they'll be acquiring a lefty specialist as well.
Only if Al Leiter retires.
Well, there is an open Senate seat in NJ.
I may get the extra innings package just so I can watch ol tightpants blow up in NY.
2006 should make for some mighty interesting theater in Yankee disliker land. I don't wish injury on anyone, but if there's any way for Mariano Rivera to take a 2-3 week vacation some time in August, I might even have to make it a point to pick up the NY Post on a daily basis.
It's crapola like this that drives the steroid agnostics like me nuts. What proof does anyone have that Farnsworth is a user?
He's always thrown hard and he's always been a #########. That doesn't make him a steroid user, it makes him a hard-throwing #########.
It could mean he's always been taking steroids. Obviously the person who made the claim doesn't know, and he might have just been trying to rile NYY fans up. There's a fine line for steroids though. It's basically impossible to have solid proof short of test results or a confession. That doesn't mean you can't (or shouldn't) suspect others of having taken steroids. But, you do have to be judicious and realize it's quite likely he's not taking steroids as well.
Actually, he's a d0ngwrangler... it's important to get this terminology down.
Too bad for you, he actually had a good year last year.
We're trying to use "jeep wrangler" instead of what you used.
More likely he simply watched Farnsworth pitch in 2005. He was dominant in Detroit. He was dominant in Atlanta. He had one bad game in Houston to end the year.
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