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Wednesday, August 25, 2004

Three’s a Crowd

Eric looks at where Pujols, Rolen, and Edmonds fit among history’s greatest slugging trios.

The St. Louis Cardinals have been the surprise of baseball in most eyes this year, but their main ingredient hasn’t been a surprise at all.  One of the characteristics of Walt Jocketty’s Cardinal teams has been stockpiling power hitters, beginning with his trade for some guy named McGwire in 1997.

His current combination of Albert Pujols, Jim Edmonds, and Scott Rolen account for three of the top six spots in the majors in OPS (all stats through games of August 23).  After combining for 110 home runs last year, they’ve improved the pace so far this year, accounting for easily the most for three teammates in MLB.  Scott Rolen’s home run Sunday afternoon put the trio at 100, making them the 117th team in MLB history to have three players combine for 100.  In fact, the second-best home run trio so far is Pujols, Edmonds/Rolen, and Reggie Sanders, with 87.  The Yankees are the next team, at 86.

How does the Pujols/Edmonds/Rolen trio stack up historically as home run hitters?  The leader is the 1961 Yankees with 143 – 61 from Roger Maris, 54 from Mickey Mantle, and 28 from Moose Skowron.  (I only counted the three highest on each team, because if you want to get picky, there were about 30 trios each from the 1961 and 1927 Yankees, the 2001 Giants, the 1998 Cardinals, and the 2002 Rangers, since they each had two players combine for 100 – it also made the research take a lot less time).  62 of those 117 have come since 1993, and it’s been done every year since then except the strike-shortened 1994.

What team has done it the most?  The Giants have reached the 100 mark eleven times, followed by 10 for the Yankees and Braves.  The earliest team to do it, to nobody’s surprise, was the 1927 Yankees, led by Ruth’s 60 and Gehrig’s 47, and Tony Lazzeri added 18.

The longest streak of 100-HR trios is six, and it’s been done twice: 1961-1966 by the Giants and 1995-2000 by the Mariners.

The “hot years” for 100-HR trios have been recent, of course:
1999 (10-A’s, Blue Jays, Cardinals, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Indians, Mariners, Rangers, Rockies), 2001 (10-A’s, Astros, Blue Jays, Brewers, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Giants, Indians, Rangers, Rockies), 2000 (9-Angels, A’s, Astros, Blue Jays, Braves, Cardinals, Giants, Mariners, White Sox), 1996 (7-A’s, Mariners, Indians, Orioles, Rangers, Rockies, White Sox), 2002 (5-Cubs, Giants, Indians, Rangers, Yankees), 2003 (5-Braves, Cardinals, Rangers, White Sox, Yankees), 1998 (4-Cardinals, Cubs, Indians, Mariners), 1961 (4-Braves, Giants, Tigers, Yankees), 1987 (4-A’s, Blue Jays, Cubs, Mets), and 1997 (4-Dodgers, Indians, Mariners, Rockies).

Top 10:
YEAR TM P1 P2 P3 TOT
1961 NYY 61 54 28 143 Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle, Moose Skowron
2001 SFG 73 37 22 132 Barry Bonds, Rich Aurilia, Jeff Kent
1997 COL 49 41 40 130 Larry Walker, Andres Galarraga, Vinny Castilla
1996 SEA 49 44 36 129 Ken Griffey Jr, Jay Buhner, Alex Rodriguez
1996 COL 47 40 40 127 Andres Galarraga, Vinny Castilla, Ellis Burks
1997 SEA 56 40 31 127 Ken Griffey Jr, Jay Buhner, Paul Sorrento
1998 SEA 56 42 29 127 Ken Griffey Jr, Alex Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez
1998 STL 70 31 26 127 Mark McGwire, Ray Lankford, Ron Gant
1927 NYY 60 47 18 125 Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Tony Lazzeri
1973 ATL 43 41 40 124 Davey Johnson, Darrell Evans, Hank Aaron

2004 “Standings”, through games of August 23.
TM P1 P2 P3 TOT
STL 38 31 31 100 Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen
NYY 32 30 24 86 Sheffield, Rodriguez, Matsui
COL 31 28 25 84 Burnitz, Helton, Castilla
PHI 38 27 18 83 Thome, Abreu, Burrell
CHC 29 28 26 83 Alou, Sosa, Lee
BOS 33 31 17 81 Ramirez, Ortiz, Varitek
TEX 30 27 24 81 Teixeira, Blalock, Soriano
CHW 30 26 23 79 Konerko, Valentin, Lee
CIN 36 22 20 78 Dunn, Pena, Casey/Griffey
LAD 39 22 16 77 Beltre, Green, Bradley
ATL 28 22 21 71 Drew, Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones
SFG 35 17 17 69 Bonds, Grissom, Feliz
BAL 24 22 19 65 Tejada, Mora, Lopez
FLA 25 22 17 64 Cabrera, Lowell, Gonzalez
CLE 23 21 20 64 Hafner, Blake, Martinez
ANA 28 25 11 64 Guerrero, Guillen, Glaus
NYM 27 17 17 61 Cameron, Piazza/Floyd/Hidalgo
OAK 23 19 19 61 Chavez, Dye, Durazo
TBD 22 19 18 59 Huff, Martinez, Cruz
MON 23 21 14 58 Wilkerson, Batista, Vidro
PIT 24 18 15 57 Wilson, Bay, Mackowiak
MIN 21 20 16 57 Koskie, Jones, Hunter
HOU 19 19 18 56 Biggio, Berkman, Bagwell
DET 19 18 18 55 Guillen, White, Pena
ARI 23 17 13 53 Finley, Gonzalez, Hillenbrand
KCR 22 15 15 52 Sweeney, Stairs, Beltran
SDP 18 17 15 50 Giles, Nevin, Loretta
TOR 20 15 13 48 Delgado, Wells, Hinske
MIL 19 13 11 43 Jenkins, Overbay, Ginter
SEA 17 14 11 42 Boone, Ibanez, Winn

All-Time 100-HR Trios, year by year:
YEAR TM P1 P2 P3 TOT
1927 NYY 60 47 18 125 Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Tony Lazzeri
1929 PHI 43 32 31 106 Chuck Klein, Lefty O’Doul, Don Hurst
1930 CHC 56 37 14 107 Hack Wilson, Gabby Hartnett, Woody English
1930 NYY 49 41 10 100 Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Ben Chapman
1931 NYY 46 46 17 109 Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Ben Chapman
1932 PHA 58 35 23 116 Jimmie Foxx, Al Simmons, Mickey Cochrane
1936 NYY 49 29 22 100 Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Bill Dickey
1937 NYY 46 37 29 112 Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Bill Dickey
1938 DET 58 33 20 111 Hank Greenberg, Rudy York, Charlie Gehringer
1947 NYG 51 36 35 122 Johnny Mize, Willard Marshall, Walker Cooper
1949 BOS 43 39 18 100 Ted Williams, Vern Stephens, Bobby Doerr
1953 BRO 42 41 31 114 Duke Snider, Roy Campanella, Gil Hodges
1954 BRO 42 40 19 101 Gil Hodges, Duke Snider, Roy Campanella
1955 CIN 47 40 27 114 Ted Kluszewski, Wally Post, Gus Bell
1955 BRO 42 32 27 101 Duke Snider, Roy Campanella, Gil Hodges
1956 CIN 38 36 35 109 Frank Robinson, Wally Post, Ted Kluszewski
1956 NYY 52 30 26 108 Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Hank Bauer
1956 MLN 38 37 26 101 Joe Adcock, Eddie Matthews, Hank Aaron
1959 MLN 46 39 25 110 Eddie Mathews, Hank Aaron, Joe Adcock
1959 WSH 42 33 30 105 Harmon Killebrew, Jim Lemon, Bob Allison
1960 NYY 40 39 26 105 Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Moose Skowron
1960 MLN 40 39 25 104 Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews, Joe Adcock
1961 NYY 61 54 28 143 Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle, Moose Skowron
1961 DET 45 41 19 105 Rocky Colavito, Norm Cash, Al Kaline
1961 SFG 46 40 18 104 Orlando Cepeda, Willie Mays, Felipe Alou/Willie McCovey
1961 MLN 35 34 32 101 Joe Adcock, Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews
1962 SFG 49 35 25 109 Willie Mays, Orlando Cepeda, Felipe Alou
1962 DET 39 37 29 105 Norm Cash, Rocky Colavito, Al Kaline
1962 MLN 45 29 29 103 Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews, Joe Adcock
1963 SFG 44 38 34 116 Willie McCovey, Willie Mays, Orlando Cepeda
1963 MIN 45 35 33 113 Harmon Killebrew, Bob Allison, Jimmy Hall
1964 MIN 49 32 32 113 Harmon Killebrew, Bob Allison, Tony Oliva
1964 SFG 47 31 31 109 Willie Mays, Orlando Cepeda, Jim Ray Hart
1965 SFG 52 39 23 114 Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Jim Ray Hart
1966 ATL 44 36 31 111 Hank Aaron, Joe Torre, Felipe Alou
1966 BAL 49 34 23 106 Frank Robinson, Boog Powell, Brooks Robinson/Curt Blefary
1966 SFG 37 36 33 106 Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Jim Ray Hart
1969 BOS 40 40 25 105 Carl Yastrzemski, Rico Petrocelli, Reggie Smith
1969 CIN 38 37 26 101 Lee May, Tony Perez, Johnny Bench
1970 CIN 45 40 34 119 Johnny Bench, Tony Perez, Lee May
1970 BOS 40 36 29 105 Carl Yastrzemski, Tony Conigliaro, Rico Petrocelli
1970 CHC 42 32 26 100 Billy Williams, Jim Hickman, Ron Santo
1973 ATL 43 41 40 124 Davey Johnson, Darrell Evans, Hank Aaron
1977 CIN 52 31 22 105 George Foster, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan
1977 BOS 39 33 30 102 Jim Rice, George Scott, Butch Hobson
1979 BOS 39 39 28 106 Jim Rice, Fred Lynn, Butch Hobson
1979 MIL 45 29 28 102 Gorman Thomas, Ben Oglivie, Sixto Lezcano
1980 MIL 41 38 25 104 Ben Oglivie, Gorman Thomas, Cecil Cooper
1982 MIL 39 34 32 105 Gorman Thomas, Ben Oglivie, Cecil Cooper
1987 NYM 39 36 29 104 Darryl Strawberry, Howard Johnson, Kevin McReynolds
1987 CHC 49 27 27 103 Andre Dawson, Keith Moreland, Leon Durham
1987 OAK 49 31 22 102 Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Mike Davis
1987 TOR 47 28 26 101 George Bell, Jesse Barfield, Lloyd Moseby
1990 OAK 39 37 28 104 Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Rickey Henderson
1991 DET 44 31 25 100 Cecil Fielder, Mickey Tettleton, Rob Deer
1993 TEX 46 37 33 116 Juan Gonzalez, Rafael Palmeiro, Dean Palmer
1993 SFG 46 38 19 103 Barry Bonds, Matt Williams, Robby Thompson
1995 COL 40 36 32 108 Dante Bichette, Larry Walker, Vinny Castilla
1995 CLE 50 31 25 106 Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez, Paul Sorrento/Jim Thome
1995 SEA 40 31 29 100 Jay Buhner, Tino Martinez, Edgar Martinez
1996 SEA 49 44 36 129 Ken Griffey Jr, Jay Buhner, Alex Rodriguez
1996 COL 47 40 40 127 Andres Galarraga, Vinny Castilla, Ellis Burks
1996 OAK 52 36 35 123 Mark McGwire, Geronimo Berroa, Terry Steinbach
1996 CLE 48 38 33 119 Albert Belle, Jim Thome, Manny Ramirez
1996 BAL 50 39 28 117 Brady Anderson, Rafael Palmeiro, Bobby Bonilla
1996 TEX 47 38 24 109 Juan Gonzalez, Dean Palmer, Kevin Elster
1996 CHW 40 34 27 101 Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Danny Tartabull
1997 COL 49 41 40 130 Larry Walker, Andres Galarraga, Vinny Castilla
1997 SEA 56 40 31 127 Ken Griffey Jr, Jay Buhner, Paul Sorrento
1997 CLE 40 33 32 105 Jim Thome, David Justice, Matt Williams
1997 LAD 40 31 31 102 Mike Piazza, Eric Karros, Todd Zeile
1998 SEA 56 42 29 127 Ken Griffey Jr, Alex Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez
1998 STL 70 31 26 127 Mark McGwire, Ray Lankford, Ron Gant
1998 CHC 66 31 23 120 Sammy Sosa, Henry Rodriguez, Jose Hernandez
1998 TOR 46 38 35 119 Jose Canseco, Carlos Delgado, Shawn Green
1998 ATL 44 34 34 112 Andres Galarraga, Javy Lopez, Chipper Jones
1998 CLE 45 30 28 103 Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, Travis Fryman
1999 TEX 47 39 35 121 Rafael Palmeiro, Juan Gonzalez, Pudge Rodriguez
1999 SEA 48 42 24 114 Ken Griffey Jr, Alex Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez
1999 STL 65 34 15 114 Mark McGwire, Fernando Tatis, Ray Lankford
1999 TOR 44 42 26 112 Carlos Delgado, Shawn Green, Tony Batista
1999 CHC 63 26 20 109 Sammy Sosa, Henry Rodriguez, Glenallen Hill
1999 CLE 44 33 31 108 Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, Richie Sexson
1999 ARI 38 35 34 107 Jay Bell, Matt Williams, Steve Finley
1999 COL 37 35 34 106 Larry Walker, Todd Helton, Dante Bichette
1999 OAK 38 35 33 106 Matt Stairs, John Jaha, Jason Giambi
1999 LAD 34 34 33 101 Eric Karros, Gary Sheffield, Raul Mondesi
2000 HOU 47 44 30 121 Jeff Bagwell, Richard Hidalgo, Moises Alou
2000 ANA 47 36 35 118 Troy Glaus, Mo Vaughn, Garret Anderson
2000 TOR 41 41 32 114 Carlos Delgado, Tony Batista, Brad Fullmer
2000 SFG 49 33 24 106 Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Ellis Burks
2000 SEA 41 37 26 104 Alex Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez, Jay Buhner
2000 ATL 36 36 28 100 Andruw Jones, Chipper Jones, Andres Galarraga
2000 CHW 43 32 25 100 Frank Thomas, Magglio Ordonez, Jose Valentin
2000 OAK 43 30 27 100 Jason Giambi, Miguel Tejada, Ben Grieve
2000 STL 42 32 26 100 Jim Edmonds, Mark McGwire, Ray Lankford
2001 SFG 73 37 22 132 Barry Bonds, Rich Aurilia, Jeff Kent
2001 TEX 52 47 25 124 Alex Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Pudge Rodriguez
2001 CLE 49 35 28 112 Jim Thome, Juan Gonzalez, Ellis Burks
2001 LAD 49 36 25 110 Shawn Green, Gary Sheffield, “Heart and Soul” Lo Duca
2001 ARI 57 33 16 106 Luis Gonzalez, Reggie Sanders, Matt Williams
2001 COL 49 38 17 104 Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Jeff Cirillo
2001 MIL 45 34 25 104 Richie Sexson, Jeromy Burnitz, Jose Hernandez
2001 OAK 38 32 31 101 Jason Giambi, Eric Chavez, Miguel Tejada
2001 HOU 39 34 27 100 Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, Moises Alou
2001 TOR 39 34 27 100 Carlos Delgado, Jose Cruz Jr, Raul Mondesi
2002 TEX 57 43 22 122 Alex Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Herb Perry
2002 NYY 41 39 27 107 Jason Giambi, Alfonso Soriano, Robin Ventura
2002 CHC 49 30 27 106 Sammy Sosa, Fred McGriff, Mark Bellhorn
2002 SFG 46 37 23 106 Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Reggie Sanders
2002 CLE 52 32 16 100 Jim Thome, Ellis Burks, Karim Garcia
2003 ATL 43 39 36 118 Javy Lopez, Gary Sheffield, Andruw Jones
2003 TEX 47 38 29 114 Alex Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Hank Blalock
2003 STL 43 39 28 110 Albert Pujols, Jim Edmonds, Scott Rolen
2003 NYY 41 38 30 109 Jason Giambi, Alfonso Soriano, Jorge Posada
2003 CHW 42 31 29 102 Frank Thomas, Carlos Lee, Magglio Ordonez
2004 STL 38 31 31 100 Albert Pujols, Jim Edmonds, Scott Rolen

Eric Opperman Posted: August 25, 2004 at 07:37 PM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DeBo Posted: August 25, 2004 at 09:00 PM (#818763)
Great article...it definitely shows that chicks dig the long ball
   2. greenback likes millwall, they don't care Posted: August 25, 2004 at 11:29 PM (#819331)
The St. Louis Cardinals have been the surprise of baseball in most eyes this year

ZiPS-borski let this through? Darn it, I can't find the original TO link, so I'll go with this one instead.

The Mariners had some impressive talent in the 1990s, didn't they?
   3. McCoy Posted: August 26, 2004 at 12:09 AM (#819491)
This isn't an article, it is a Jayson Starks column.
   4. Dan Szymborski Posted: August 26, 2004 at 12:44 AM (#819615)
Eric *did* say most! Besides, if I declared a victory, people would remind me of how the NL West projections turned out.
   5. greenback likes millwall, they don't care Posted: August 26, 2004 at 03:38 AM (#820168)
That could be a problem with a certain other Eric.

The Cards won't catch the 1961 Yankees, but if Rolen gets on his horse they've got an outside shot at catching the lowest high.

I can't wait for "R" to write something for BTF.
   6. Neil Posted: August 26, 2004 at 04:33 AM (#820196)
That link you posted - with the ZiPS projections... it's weird how the NL West turned out! It ended up completely backwards!
   7. RobertMachemer Posted: August 26, 2004 at 07:27 AM (#820273)
Missed (at least) one:

1984 BOS 43 32 28 103 Armas, Evans, Rice

But cool research, nevertheless.
   8. mbd1mbd1 Posted: August 26, 2004 at 01:50 PM (#820347)
They picked up two more last night; Pujols' 39th and Jedmonds' 33rd. Total is 103 now.

I can't wait for TOLAXOR to write a column.
   9. bob mong Posted: August 26, 2004 at 06:09 PM (#820920)
The Mariners had some impressive talent in the 1990s, didn't they?

The problem with the late-90s Mariners is that the impressive talent rarely clicked simultaneously:

Year       Good    Injured/Missing      Result
1995       Edgar   Griffey (hurt)       Playoffs
           Randy   ARod (minors)
           Buhner
 
1996       Edgar   Randy (hurt)         No playoffs
           Buhner
           Griffey
           ARod 
 
1997       Edgar                        Playoffs 
           Randy
           Buhner
           ARod
           Griffey

1998       Edgar   Randy (traded)       No playoffs
           Griffey Buhner (hurt)
           ARod

1999       Edgar   Buhner (hurt)        No playoffs
           Griffey Randy (gone)
           ARod

2000       Edgar   Griffey (gone)       Playoffs
           ARod    Randy (gone)
           Buhner
The Mariners had five stars in the late 1990s, and in only one year did they get a complete season from all five. Unsurprisingly, they won their division by six games that year (1997) and went to the playoffs.

The real key to understanding how the Mariners squandered all this talent is to know that, as far as pitching is concerned, they had Randy Johnson. Period. In 1996, the Mariners scored 993 runs, leading the league. But Randy Johnson was hurt and only started 8 games (60 IP). In his absence, six pitchers started 10 or more games. One of them had an ERA below 4.67, and only two of them had ERAs below 5.30. Result: The Mariners allowed 895 runs and finished second.

And beyond the starters, the bullpens were stupendously bad. The 1997 Mariners, a playoff, division-winning team, gave 70 innings to a reliever with a 7.27 ERA.

It wasn't until 2000 that the Mariners finally got enough pitching to make the playoffs without Randy Johnson.
   10. Rickey! In a van on 95 south... Posted: August 26, 2004 at 06:09 PM (#820925)
Eric *did* say most! Besides, if I declared a victory, people would remind me of how the NL West projections turned out.

And after that, Bobby Cox, Leo Mazzone, Jared Wright and myself would all kick you while laughing hysterically. 16% indeed.
   11. bob mong Posted: August 26, 2004 at 06:18 PM (#820963)
In fact, looking a little closer...Randy Johnson has a pretty amazing streak going.

This year will be only the second time since 1995 that he has been healthy and his team missed the playoffs. The other was 2000.

1995, healthy: playoffs
1996, hurt: no playoffs
1997, healthy: playoffs
1998, healthy: playoffs
1999, healthy: playoffs
2000, healthy: no playoffs
2001, healthy: playoffs
2002, healthy: playoffs
2003, hurt: no playoffs

Don't know what to make of that, exactly.
   12. Paul D(uda) Posted: August 26, 2004 at 06:43 PM (#821068)
bob, i think Johnson should hurt himself in the coming weeks.
   13. bob mong Posted: August 26, 2004 at 09:28 PM (#821642)
bob, i think Johnson should hurt himself in the coming weeks.

Don't want to ruin the streak.
   14. MKT Posted: August 31, 2004 at 08:23 PM (#829207)
#9: And beyond the starters, the bullpens were stupendously bad.

That was a very good summary of the Mariners golden years. About the only thing I would add is that the Ms did get good years out of relievers Norm Charlton and Jeff Nelson in 1995, but after that the relief corps was pretty much a laughingstock until Sasaki came along, : Ayala, Mesa, washed-up Charlton, and of course in desperation trading away Derrick Lowe and Jason Varitek for ... Heathcliff Slocumb. It was that trade, plus this year's attempted trade of Carlos Guillen for Omar Vizquel, which finally convinced me that, even though I'm not qualified to be a baseball GM, I could do at least one thing better than the Mariners front office could: avoid making totally boneheaded trades.
   15. salvomania Posted: September 01, 2004 at 03:23 PM (#830989)
2004 “Standings”, through games of August 23.

STL 38 31 31 100 Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen


Now, updated through games of August 31:

STL 41 38 31 110 Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen

Not a bad week---4-1/2 more like that and they'll surpass the '61 Yanks' trio.
   16. mbd1mbd1 Posted: September 02, 2004 at 03:24 AM (#832762)
They're up to 112 after tonight's game, as Pujols hit his 42nd and Rolen his 32nd.
   17. salvomania Posted: September 03, 2004 at 03:37 PM (#835277)
And now, one game later, they're up to 114 with Pujols' 43rd and Edmonds 39th.

In nine games since the article was posted, the three have hit 14 home runs.
   18. Andy Aymeloglu Posted: September 03, 2004 at 06:57 PM (#835544)
I've been wondering a lot lately if Edmonds hasn't been quietly building a good Hall of Fame case. He doesn't have the traditional counting stats that will impress voters, but if we're talking about who should be in the Hall, rather than who will...

- He's been the best player overall at his position since 2000

- While his counting stats are kinda weak, he fares very well in those "newfangled" stats like OBP and SLG

- He plays Gold Glove defense (and will have 7 awards after this year)

- His RCAA since 1995 is tops in the majors at his position, just ahead of Bernie Williams, and quite a bit ahead of Ken Griffey, Jr

- He has been reasonably durable on the side of 30 where that becomes difficult

- He has played well in the postseason (not predictive, I know, but it deserves recognition when we're evaluating a career)

And he's peaking now at age 34. I say a couple more good seasons and he belongs in the Hall. That'll also help get his counting stats up to more acceptable levels.
   19. shoomee Posted: September 10, 2004 at 12:02 PM (#846757)
Edmonds in the Hall of Fame? I don't know about that. He is surprisingly effective in postseason but his teams don't do anything memorable in playoffs, the only HOF on his top 10 similiarity score is Hack Wilson..the best is Shawn Green and is he a HOF? The HOF from this generation will probably be only Griffey, Edmonds, Williams, Lofton and Finley will be left out.

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