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1. Jon T. Posted: October 01, 2008 at 12:15 AM (#2961690)I also enjoy watching them play baseball as a team.
Good luck to both teams.
It's not just the Angels that get overlooked, though. Here are some fun numbers:
85 RBI, .330 BA, .415 OBP, .869 OPS
83 RBI, .326 BA, .376 OBP, .869 OPS
If someone can tell me why the guy with the second set of numbers deserves all the MVP talk in the last month substantially more than the guy above him, I'd certainly like to hear it.
I'd put that in the fluke category. I doubt it tells us much more than the teams' overall records.
An extra 100 PA is a pretty good reason. And the 1st player has been getting a fair amount MVP talk, though not as much as the 2nd.
BTW, I don't think it's accurate to say that the Angels lineup has one great player anymore. Or rather, if they have only one great player this year, it isn't the same great player that it's been the last 4 years.
And 4 of the losses for the Red Sox were accrued by pitchers that won't be appearing in this series (Hansen, Wakefield, 2x Buchholz).
(This one's for you, Dan.)
I'm with SoSHially Unacceptable. Playoff history against a team which had different personnel is less significant than head to head history with the teams made up as they are currently.
It'll be a tough series, and if the Sox can make it to the next round I like their chances for winning it all. I can't say I've got Twain's calm confidence of a Christian holding four aces, though.
Of course, I hope I am wrong about this, as I will be at games 1 and 2 and would love for BOS to continue their post season 'domination' of LAA.
He's not getting much MVP talk for the same reason Youk isn't getting much. There's another player on their own respecive teams that the writers are more enamored with.
That made me laugh
May the best team win
I dunno, folks. The BoSox look a little weak to me coming in to this series. Beckett, Drew and Lowell are rather question marks, aren't they? Even if they play, will they be returning to form? And after Lester and Dice-K, if Beckett's not all there, whattya got? Byrd (4.78)? Colon (3.92)? Buchholz (6.75)? Is Wakefield (4.13) in the mix?
Halos look tough to me.
Looks like the playoff roster still isn't released, though the reports in the Globe and Herald all suggest that Drew and Lowell will be ready to start tonight. That's a big improvement, if they can play.
In their last 30 games, per B-R:
LAA 20-10
PHI 19-11
LAD 19-11
BOS 18-12
CHC 16-14
TBR 16-14
MIL 13-17
CHW 13-17 (reflects last night's game; B-R isn't updated yet)
Since August 1:
BOS 34-19
TBR 34-21
CHC 32-20
PHI 33-21
LAA 32-22
MIL 30-23
LAD 30-24
CHW 29-26
Probably right. Rays are up there too, put I would not include the Cubs. No offense meant to them, but the gap between the AL and NL is undeniably huge. An NL team would have to win at least 5-10 games more than the top AL teams to deserve consideration for "best team in baseball".
These might be the two best teams in baseball.
The Red Sox put up a very good year in a very strong division, and they put up a very strong September against a very strong schedule.
Item #1, looking back at the season: According to BPro, the Red Sox have 102 third-order wins, while the Angels have 84.
Item #2, looking forward at the emerging trends: Lester is emerging into an ace with each start, Dice-K likewise is trending up, Lowrie/Cora is an upgrade from Lugo, the bullpen is in better shape now than at any point before. Yes, they have some significant injuries, but they've had significant injuries all year -- the team is arguably more healthy now than at any point earlier in the season. (We've been without Lowell and Drew before, and been without Papi, and Manny, and Dice, etc.) And those two guys (Lowell and Drew) are probably the most easy for the Sox to replace -- it's not a huge step down from Lowell to a Cora/Casey platoon, and it's not a huge step down from Drew to Crisp/Kotsay.
I am less qualified to speak to the emerging trends of the Angels, but for one thing, Teixeira is not really that much of an upgrade from Kotchman, and for another thing, they have not had a significant injury all season so, unlike with the Sox, you can't argue "they are better than their performance because they are more healthy now than they have been".
All that said, of course a best-of-5 is a crapshoot, and each of these teams is fully capable of sweeping the other. But, significant edge Sox.
I don't think this is true, even dismissing Teixeira's results with the Angels as small sample size.
Another thing to keep in mind for this series is how much better the AL East was than the AL West this year.
The Angels beat up on their west division opponents to the tune of a 36-21 record. Against the big, mighty, all powerful east, they only went 30-16.
Sure, but how many of those wins came against the lowly Yankees?
I actually think the Angels are a slightly better team, and thus likely to win in a 7 game series, but I'll take the Sox in the shorter series.
But the person you're quoting was saying the Cubs were one of the best four teams in baseball. Is this not possible? They have a better record than anyone except the Angels.
in the 2nd half than the Sox did on the road, for instance.
This is gonna be a very tough series to pull off for the Sox. Can't let Tex and Vlad hurt you...
that's my conventional wisdom key to the series.
Sox are absolutely unstoppable at home, but the Angels may win game 2 with 4 innings to work against the bullpen. But I don't think that will happen- Angels in Anaheim is a great matchup for Dick-K, who likes to work on the road against free swinging opponents (career 3.35 era with a .210 OBA on the road).
If Lester can shut them down tonight, the pressure on the Angels will be immense, they will lose to DiceK, and they will get swept or certainly lose in 4. If Sox lose tonight, series will go 5 games and I have no idea what will happen, but I must admit, I think DiceK can handle game 5 on the road. He's an enigma, but he's also a big game pitcher.
Yeah - Except for Escobar, and Lackey, and Guerrero.
Anyhow, should be a good series.
Hopefully that means Francona will be hitting and running (if he accidentally gets on base) for Varitek frequently, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Anything that guarantees Timlin won't take the mound in this series is fine by me. If the only people they were willing to consider for the 25th spot were Timlin and Pesky, I'd have gone with the octogenarian.
as long as timlin's not allowed to lose it for us.
Tonight's game is huge because it's tonight's game. On Friday we'll be saying Game 2 is huge.
Apparently Ross gets the final roster spot over Timlin for the ALDS. 3 catchers for a 5 game series? Really?
I think he did this last year, too.
With the days off he doesn't need another person in the bullpen, and they seem to have positions covered in case of injury. The last spot is what gives them the greatest flexibility in a pinch. And in a pinch, either PH or PR for one of the catchers is the biggest bang for the buck. This gives them more flexibility there.
Don't expect it to be repeated in the ALCS if they make it.
The apparent health of Drew, Beckett, and Lowell makes me more optimistic about things.
This is what I meant, and it's what I posted in the game chatter, almost to the word.
Indeed, the increased number of off-days in the postseason, which seems to be increasing a little every year, changes the calculus which would decide if the last couple guys on the bench should be pitchers or hitters.
Uh...disagree.
No Timlin! Hooray!
GOD - THERE IS ONE!!
In 2.
Also the play-by-play was brutal. There were a few times where my eyes disagreed with this guy.
lowell does not look like he'll last through the playoffs and drew's back could stiffen back up any time ... he looked really uncomfortable in the dugout towards the end of the game ... and we still don't know if beckett will be ready to pitch game 3. that all said, the red sox could win it all without any of those 3.
Well, as a consolation, their replacements probably couldn't look much worse at the plate.
well kotsay has looked pretty bad, but at least casey/cora wouldn't stumble and almost fall every time they checked their swing.
I don't think tonight's game is huge. Unless your an Angels fan. Game 1 was the biggie- Sox had to put the psychological clamp-down on the Angels and they did that.
I thought it was interesting how pissed off Lackey was when he was pulled from the game. These Rally Monkeys just look nervous and tight to me.
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