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   1. Morton's Fork Posted: November 21, 2017 at 06:09 AM (#5579231)
All things must pass.

I should think that, for a writer, the only way to deal with a bardo like this is to write about it. 30 to 47 is a significant era in any person's life; that you and the Sox and your family could resonate together during the course of yours is a rare gift deserving of gratitude. Pretty cool indeed. You get that, and you get the delicate relationship between loving a team and loving a game, and you share it with us. Thanks, man.
   2. villageidiom Posted: November 21, 2017 at 08:39 AM (#5579257)
My ticket plan overlapped with you for most of that time, starting one year earlier and ending three years earlier. I know the feeling. You'll think you're over it, and then the home opener happens without you. Then you're over it again, and the playoffs start. But you'll get over it.

I was there for 14 of your 17 and several of your honorable mentions. You weren't there for Lowe or Buchholz no-hitters? I missed both.

I will always remember Manny's HR that hit the lights, Pokey's ITPHR, Mookie stealing 2B then immediately proceeding to 3B because of the shift*, and so much Pedro. I'll remember the guy in front of me chewing me out for not doing a rally cap late in 2004 ALCS game 5. ("They don't need my help," I told him. They didn't.) I'll remember seeing Kapler (wearing #19) and Damon (#18) standing next to each other in the outfield during a pitching change in the playoffs before the curse was broken, inadvertently flashing a 1918 at the bleachers. The ring ceremony in 2005, Lowe arranging with the Dodgers to be there, and the team awarding rings in reverse order of tenure with the team (thus revealing at the end that Johnny Pesky was getting a ring).
   3. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 21, 2017 at 08:52 AM (#5579260)
Despite all the no hitters in this era I have never seen one in person. That Pokey ITPHR was awesome, didn't he hit one into the monster seats an inning later too?
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: November 21, 2017 at 09:52 AM (#5579283)
Jose, if you ever need tips on getting tickets, let me know.
   5. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 21, 2017 at 09:58 AM (#5579289)
Thanks. I've gotten pretty adept with StubHub in recent years. That's a big part of the issue here is it is now so easy to get tickets when I want them that there is no rush to write a $9,000 check today.
   6. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: November 21, 2017 at 11:51 AM (#5579382)
Thanks for the post Jose, it's fun to reminisce and remember that the Sox have been pretty darn good these past few years.
   7. jmurph Posted: November 21, 2017 at 02:52 PM (#5579594)
Wow, that's quite a run (both for you guys in person, and generally for us as fans).

My best in-person experience was Pedro-Clemens in the 99 ALCS. I haven't been to a game at Fenway since... 2001 I think, and I'd like to think my time away is at least partially responsible for all of their recent success.
   8. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 21, 2017 at 04:42 PM (#5579720)

My best in-person experience was Pedro-Clemens in the 99 ALCS.


That was pure insanity. I still have the scorebook from that one framed. Attendance was 33,410 or something like that but I will swear to my dying day that there were 40,000 people there that day. Moving around the ballpark was virtually impossible.
   9. jmurph Posted: November 21, 2017 at 04:54 PM (#5579741)
That was pure insanity.

One of the rare moments in sports in which everyone (roughly) in attendance wanted a very specific thing to happen, and that very specific thing happened. I remember knowing full well the Sox would lose the series, and being okay with that, as long as they got to Clemens.

Clearly our expectations/standards for success were a little different then!
   10. Nasty Nate Posted: November 21, 2017 at 04:57 PM (#5579745)
My best in-person experience was Pedro-Clemens in the 99 ALCS.

That was pure insanity. I still have the scorebook from that one framed. Attendance was 33,410 or something like that but I will swear to my dying day that there were 40,000 people there that day. Moving around the ballpark was virtually impossible.
Pedro-Clemens in the ALCS 4 years later was the only time I got into the park without a ticket; that game was likely over-attended in a similar way.
   11. Famous Original Joe C Posted: November 30, 2017 at 10:43 AM (#5583288)
Jose, thanks for sharing all this. What a run!

I worked for the big evil concession company at Fenway from 2002-04 as an accountant (started as internship for '02 season and I stayed until I went to grad school in (doh!) August '04 - I was a Stats major but who could resist working at Fenway?)

In 2003 our offices were on the 5th floor behind the press box - so as long as I was discreet and quiet I could stand next to the rows of writers and watch an inning or two from time to time. The rule in the press box was always no cheering, no loud activity, it's like an office. Only time I ever saw that broken was during that game. You would have had a more muted reaction from the press corps if Grady Little announced the ghost of Ted Williams as a pinch hitter, then the ghost actually came on the field to hit. Not only was there the Posada/Manny thing, and the Pedro/Zimmer thing, but remember Karim Garcia in the 9th got into a fight with fans IIRC too (leading to the timeless Pedro quote). My other most ingrained memory from that job was coming into work on the day after Boone and seeing the World Series logo painted on the field behind home plate as I walked to my desk. Feels like 100 years ago now.

My best in-person experience was Pedro-Clemens in the 99 ALCS.


I didn't attend this game, but I was a freshman at BU at the time and remember walking up to the stadium anyway pregame just to be around the crowd (before going back to watch on my 13" TV in my dorm alone because I was too nervous to watch with anyone). It was such a beautiful day and there was so much energy in that crowd as people were heading in to the game - and to jmurph's great point above, it was all directed in one place and somehow that all just played out exactly as one would have hoped. The rest of that series was various forms of torture, but man, I will never forget that beautiful Saturday afternoon in Kenmore Square.
   12. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 30, 2017 at 10:53 AM (#5583299)
Joe C - Wow. Did you know Curtis Teets (think that was his first name)? He was in HR for BECC over there. I worked for the same company at BU, his then finacee worked with me. We sent a few folks over to help out during the 2003 playoffs and my Marketing Manager was working the Oakland owners' box during game three. He said then went ####### ballistic during the whole Miguel Tejada interference play smashing glasses and generally losing their ####.
   13. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: November 30, 2017 at 10:53 AM (#5583300)
Lifelong Red Sox fan here who never lived in New England. The closest I ever got to Fenway was a Rangers - Red Sox game while I was in town that got cancelled by the 1994 strike. Still have my ticket, but I'd have much rather seen the game. Thanks for sharing your memories, Jose, vi, et al.
   14. Nasty Nate Posted: November 30, 2017 at 10:55 AM (#5583302)

I didn't attend this game, but I was a freshman at BU at the time and remember walking up to the stadium anyway pregame just to be around the crowd (before going back to watch on my 13" TV in my dorm alone because I was too nervous to watch with anyone).
This reminds me of my brother talking about the '03 ALCS at BC. In a cruel irony for being so close to Fenway, there were more Yankee fans around on campus. Possibly it was the same for you.
   15. Famous Original Joe C Posted: December 06, 2017 at 06:16 AM (#5587026)
Joe C - Wow. Did you know Curtis Teets (think that was his first name)? He was in HR for BECC over there.


Yes! You got the name right. He started the same year I did. Super nice guy. The first year I worked there, he sat diagonally from me in the tiny offices behind the home plate concourse. IIRC, he listened to a lot of KISS 108. He had a tough job there - the guy before him wasn't really an HR person and was maybe less than professional in some ways, to put it one way. That's so funny - small world!

I didn't know that about the A's box during that game! Good stuff.

This reminds me of my brother talking about the '03 ALCS at BC. In a cruel irony for being so close to Fenway, there were more Yankee fans around on campus. Possibly it was the same for you.


Yep, it was pretty unbearable in moments - and BU had/has a larger NY contigent than BC I'd guess (just a guess). Anyway, yeah, I watched game 4 of that series at Warren Towers, the massive undergrad dorm on Comm. Ave. If I recall, the Yankees started pulling away late after a close start, and so I decided I was done watching that before the game ended and headed out. Still remember waiting for the B line and you could audibly hear the cheering out the windows of the dorm from all the Yankee fans.

God, that was a frustrating series in '99. The better team did win, but between the bad calls, the Red Sox holding leads in each of the 1st four games (and leads in the 7th in games 1 and 2), Rod Beck's 84 MPH meatball to Bernie Williams, blown opportunities against El Duque in game 5.....ugh. Thankfully the ensuing 18 seasons (18! Damn.) have eased the pain considerably.
   16. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: December 06, 2017 at 09:00 AM (#5587064)
Funny story about Curtis and his fiancee (Linda). When they got engaged one of our co-workers asked if she was going to change her name since his name is not exactly ideal for a woman. She laughed and said that Curtis' dad told her that it was required saying "if we're stuck with it so are you."

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