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   1. Darren Posted: April 14, 2017 at 03:52 PM (#5435481)
Not around much, but just wanted to stop in to throw some salt in our collective wound:

Kimbrell since joining Sox: 1.0 WAR
Margot since joining Pads: 1.4 WAR (in 80 PA)

This is going to be a bad one.
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: April 14, 2017 at 04:17 PM (#5435503)
Moreland has set a club record with doubles in seven consecutive games and leads the team in average, OBP, slugging, OPS, hits, doubles and even walks because why the hell not.

NOTE TO RANGERS: Build 37' high wall in short LF this winter.
   3. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 17, 2017 at 10:29 AM (#5436463)
Eduardo Rodriguez going on paternity leave so Brian Johnson is being called up to make his start tomorrow. Ben Taylor actually coming up today and will be in the bullpen for today's game then will be sent back down to make room for BJ to pitch in Toronto on Tuesday.
   4. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: April 17, 2017 at 03:22 PM (#5436689)
This is going to be a bad one.


Sure, on WAR, but where does 2017 Boston Red Sox Manny Margot play? You taking PT away from Benintendi, Bradley or Betts? Or you don't sign Moreland, keep Hanley at 1B and take Benintendi's or Margot's defense out of the equation? I can assure you that he wasn't going to be playing CF or RF on this team.

Nah. Dombrowski was looking at that rare thing, a true surplus at a position, and cashed in a high-value chip to address an area of major need. This was a bullpen that was, let's say 'uneven' in 2014 and a total shitfire in 2015, and you're not getting a late-game difference maker by trading Allen Craig.
   5. Darren Posted: April 17, 2017 at 10:28 PM (#5436919)
Sure, on WAR, but where does 2017 Boston Red Sox Manny Margot play?


AAA. Then the majors when JBJ went down. Or traded.

I can assure you that he wasn't going to be playing CF or RF on this team.


No you can't.

Nah. Dombrowski was looking at that rare thing, a true surplus at a position, and cashed in a high-value chip to address an area of major need.


Nah.





   6. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 17, 2017 at 11:32 PM (#5436947)
Kimbrell since joining Sox: 1.0 WAR
Margot since joining Pads: 1.4 WAR (in 80 PA)


I agree in the long run this will be a loss of the Red Sox in the WAR stakes, but last 3 games, Kimbrel: 9 up, 9 down, 8K's. If he continues like that then I think we'll all be happy. Team psychology is a funny thing and having that "guy" for the ninth seems to be a thing that players like.

Personally I would never trade anything but magic beans for any reliever ever but then again I'm not making $5 mil per running a team so maybe I'm not so smart after all.

And Chris Sale is just genuinely awesome. I know the price was steep, but man oh man can this guy pitch. Should I dare say it's almost Pedroesque watching him go about his craft.
   7. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: April 18, 2017 at 12:55 AM (#5436958)
You sure got me there, Darren. If we assume counterfactuals, you're totally right.
   8. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 18, 2017 at 07:38 AM (#5436980)
I didn't love the trade largely because I love Margot but the Sox were dealing from a strength. One of my concerns on the deal is I felt that the Sox were really thinning themselves out in outfield depth. However, what I didn't realize is that Benintendi would be ready last August. I'd love to have Margot but one of the ways a prospect helps you is by allowing you to deal him for an MLB player.

The Sox outfield is clearly their strength right now. Add in Young as a 4th outfielder and that's a really terrific group. It's hard for me to see this as a deal to be worried about. I think it's a pretty fair deal at the time and the Sox are going to get three years of a very good (if rather frustrating at times) closer.
   9. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 18, 2017 at 07:42 AM (#5436981)
On the subject of Kimbrel I was looking at this the other day;

Leon - 27 Games, 2.92 ERA, 2.93 K/BB
Vazquez - 20 Games, 1.83 ERA, 4.50 K/BB
Swihart - 2 Games, 13.50 ERA, 1.33 K/BB (just including him for completeness)

Just watching the game Sunday with Vazquez behind the plate he seemed to stay with the fastball more. The numbers aren't hugely different and sample sizes are obviously small but I wonder if there is something to the way Leon calls a game for Kimbrel. I don't remember seeing Kimbrel shake off much. He doesn't work quickly but he also doesn't seem to overthink and I wonder if Vazquez has a better handle on what Kimbrel is throwing.

Nothing conclusive here obviously but something I'm curious to watch as the year goes on.
   10. Textbook Editor Posted: April 18, 2017 at 09:47 AM (#5437034)
#9--Jose, those are some interesting stats. What would be interesting to see is if they did a battery swapout late in games--lifting Leon for Vazquez when Kimbrel comes in. You can argue (a) it's not like Leon would hit again in such situations, (b) it's not entirely clear Leon's "advantage" over Vazquez with the bat is real anyway, and (c) if it helps maximize a scarce resource (i.e., Kimbrel's IP), it seems worth doing.

I seem to recall other teams have done this in the past (though off the top of my head I can't think of an example now), so it's not like it's unheard of. Unless you think lots of 1 inning stints is going to wear down Vazquez, it seems worth doing if a larger sample size reveals the same patterns/breakdowns.
   11. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 18, 2017 at 09:54 AM (#5437036)
Yeah I wouldn't want to do it yet given the sample sizes but I'm curious to watch how it evolves. Leon seems pretty good with the pitchers in general so I suspect the easiest solution is to have Leon and Vazquez work together with Kimbrel to identify what (if anything) Vazquez might be doing differently. I'd bet Leon could adapt his game calling.
   12. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: April 18, 2017 at 07:27 PM (#5437671)
I just love getting MILB updates on my phone and seeing that Moncada hit a home run... only to realize that he's no longer in our farm system.

Though I guess that Sale guy is pretty good.
   13. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: April 18, 2017 at 07:29 PM (#5437673)
As for Margot, I'm sure we'd be hearing the same thing with Benintendi had they shipped him to San Diego instead. I love tracking prospects as much as any bother fan, but there's only 25 spots on an MLB roster.
   14. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: April 18, 2017 at 07:31 PM (#5437677)
Edit: I suck at posting on my phone.
   15. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:21 PM (#5438442)
EdRod back with the team, Brian Johnson to Pawtucket. Apparently Rodriguez is available out of the bullpen tonight which is probably good since Hembree and Barnes probably aren't.
   16. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 20, 2017 at 08:57 AM (#5438738)
In the absence of a minor league thread I'll note that Michael Chavis hit three homers last night. He missed a little time with an injury but he's 7 for 15 with 4 homers so far.
   17. Darren Posted: April 22, 2017 at 09:03 AM (#5440268)
You sure got me there, Darren. If we assume counterfactuals, you're totally right.

This baffles me. Where have I done this? I answered your questions.
I agree in the long run this will be a loss of the Red Sox in the WAR stakes, but last 3 games, Kimbrel: 9 up, 9 down, 8K's. If he continues like that then I think we'll all be happy. Team psychology is a funny thing and having that "guy" for the ninth seems to be a thing that players like.

The point was that it wasn't just in the long run--that's sort of the chance you take on a prospects for star trade. It's that it already isn't good, 1 year in.
   18. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 24, 2017 at 06:25 PM (#5441720)
I don't really have enough for a post right now but I just want to say that this weekend is the kind of weekend that reminds me why I'm optimistic about this team. Yeah they lost 2 out of 3 but even rolling their 3, 4, 5 starters they got two good starts in three games. I'll matchup Rodriguez, Wright and Pomeranz in whatever order with anyone else's 3-4-5 and feel like I have a shot. I think this team should expect at a bare minimum 2 quality starts every 5 days and probably 3 or 4 more likely. That's going to ward off a lot of losing streaks and slumps.
   19. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 28, 2017 at 03:55 PM (#5444487)
Ben Taylor called up and Chase D'arnaud activated. Robbie Ross and Steve Selsky to Pawtucket (both had options). I understand wanting to keep some depth but jesus, just jettison Abad and keep Ross (who actually has use) on the roster.

Just building off my last comment in this thread. Quality starts in five game increments;

YYNNY 3 for 5 (3-2)
YYNNN 2 for 5 (2-3)
YNYNY 3 for 5 (4-1)
YYNYY 4 for 5 (2-3)
YY
   20. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: April 28, 2017 at 11:37 PM (#5444718)
That was a pleasant win. I'll tell you, I hated Farrell going to Abad but credit where it's due, he did his job.
   21. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: May 08, 2017 at 10:28 AM (#5450644)
Just updating my Quality Start list;

YYNNY 3 for 5 (3-2)
YYNNN 2 for 5 (2-3)
YNYNY 3 for 5 (4-1)
YYNYY 4 for 5 (2-3)
YYNYY 4 for 5 (2-3)
YNNYY 3 for 5 (3-2)
NNNY

.588 QS%, .529 Win%
   22. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: May 12, 2017 at 08:38 AM (#5454041)
Latest Kimbrel/catcher update;

w/Leon - 2.96 ERA/3.27 K:BB
w/Vazquez - 1.40 ERA/6.83 K:BB (includes immaculate inning)

He has faced 56 batters and struck out 31 including 26 of his last 38.

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