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   1. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:12 PM (#2719739)
Nancy, nice.

And to be honest I've never really felt nervous with Corey on the mound. I think he's a better pitcher than Snyder and definitely better than Lopez. He's done a good job as far as I can remember. And IIRC, there's been a piece or two about how Francona's a fan of his so hopefully he can throw those 'in limbo' innings and keep the ball as far away from Lopez as possible.

Dice-K continues to make me nervous.
   2. chris p Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:14 PM (#2719741)
r mph’er on his heater.

i think the gun was low. it had blanton in the low to mid 80s. embree was able to get into the 90s, and papelbon was in the low-mid 90s.

Magadan said, Pedroia should pick one out he likes and try to put a charge into it. Primates everywhere cringed.

eh?

The 6th inning is going to be a key inning for the Sox in close games, as I have a lot of faith in Oki, Delcarmen and Paps for the 7th, 8th and 9th. When the starters can’t get through 6 to get the ball to Oki it will be challenging to shut other teams down ith Lopez and Snyder and Corey (who might be ok).

is there any team in baseball that has a reliable 4th option in the bullpen?
   3. Valentine Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:17 PM (#2719743)
* They were pitching Ortiz carefully. He needs to be patient, let Manny drive in the runs for a while. Eventually pitchers will be forced to come in to him.

* The Red Sox aren't going to get 20 HR from Drew, so either find a way to do without or write off the season now.

* Lugo was pulled for Cora in the 10th. Is he okay? Could be a break for Lowrie, but he really isn't ready yet.

* Snyder is at best the #6 pitcher in the pen. No idea why he was in there for the sixth inning. Lopez and Corey are both better pitchers, not to mention Aardsma.
   4. Dan Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:17 PM (#2719745)
I'm not so sure the gun wasn't accurate, chris. Papelbon's fastball didn't seem to have its normal life, and the A's hitters weren't swinging and missing much. It wouldn't surprise me if he was a few MPH down.
   5. chris p Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:20 PM (#2719746)
It wouldn't surprise me if he was a few MPH down.

embree and blanton, though. embree was just hitting 90 and looked really good. when he's on his game he's in teh mid 90s.
   6. Dan Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:22 PM (#2719749)
Also, I have no idea what the #### Kyle Snyder was doing pitching in the 6th inning with a 1 run lead. Either Okajima or Delcarmen needs to be pitching that inning. You can get two innings from one of them, or 4 outs from one and 5 from the other with a 1 run lead.
   7. Valentine Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:25 PM (#2719755)
Is anybody still on the Kyle Snyder bandwagon? Our depth chart at this point:

Paps, Oki, MDC, Timlin, Aardsma, Lopez, Corey, Tavarez, Snyder

Hard to see Snyder making the front seven.
   8. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:28 PM (#2719760)
Either Okajima or Delcarmen needs to be pitching that inning. You can get two innings from one of them, or 4 outs from one and 5 from the other with a 1 run lead.
Aw, I predicted in chatter that it would be Darren making this argument...

It's a cogent argument. There should have been time to get one of Manny D or Okajima warmed. My guess is that Tito had a plan not to push those guys to get more than three outs, and I'd guess that he's still holding tryouts for the #5 slot in the bullpen. Corey edged ahead of Snyder today.
   9. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:30 PM (#2719765)
Paps, Oki, MDC, Timlin, Aardsma, Lopez, Corey, Tavarez, Snyder
I was unimpressed with Aardsma. He didn't look like he had anything to get lefties out with, and his fastball was merely ok. He'll be traded for an organizational player in the next week, I think.

Snyder's value goes down quite a bit with Tavarez on the roster. Does Corey have options? Because I'd probably rather risk losing Snyder than Corey at this point.
   10. Valentine Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:34 PM (#2719775)
Aardsma, Lopez, Corey, and Snyder are all out of options. Tavarez, as a veteran, also cannot be sent down. I, too, am looking for some trades in the next week. Hope the right guys are moved.
   11. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:41 PM (#2719780)
you have played in ZERO real games so far, glass-body...
suck it up and play
taking days off because youre banged-up, but not injured, should happen in July and August, not opening frickin day, you ####### ##### (forgetting feline)
   12. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:44 PM (#2719782)
Of course we coudln't score any runs off the bullpen. We weren't hitting against people, but ghosts from 2004.

I haven't actually seen Aardvark. Is he any good?
   13. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:46 PM (#2719783)
was this the first game in which both Keith Foulke and Papelbon pitched?
   14. Valentine Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:51 PM (#2719785)
you have played in ZERO real games so far, glass-body... suck it up and play

Nate, if it is all the same I'd rather have a GOOD player in there for the Red Sox.

ZiPS projections:
Drew .362/.412
Moss .334/.424 (and perhaps superior defense?)
Crisp .333/.410 (and stellar CF defense)

Let JD Drew take all the time off he likes. Preferably on the 60-day DL, so he doesn't waste a roster space.
   15. Dan Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:54 PM (#2719787)
I think that ZiPS is overly pessimistic about Drew's power being gone.
   16. Valentine Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:54 PM (#2719788)
Nate, I think this is the first game in which both pitched.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS200509080.shtml
   17. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:56 PM (#2719790)
thanks. totally forgot that they were teammates for a while

how did Keith's pitching look? i went back to sleep for some of the game
   18. Sexy Lizard Posted: March 25, 2008 at 03:57 PM (#2719791)
"Paps" needs to be retired as a nickname. It means "nipples".
   19. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:02 PM (#2719794)
I just hope Manny's "look at me" BS doesn't cost us a game this year. Just Manny Being An #######.
   20. chris p Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:05 PM (#2719799)
how did Keith's pitching look? i went back to sleep for some of the game

looked good.
   21. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:06 PM (#2719800)
Who knew Tim McCarver posted here? Welcome. Any good Bob Gibson anecdotes? I hear he was quite the pitcher.
   22. PJ Martinez Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:25 PM (#2719819)
kevin is already in mid-season form.

As for Drew vs. Moss vs. Crisp, I'm pretty sure the 30-point edge in OBP would outweigh the slight slugging edge attributed to Moss (I don't know enough about Moss's defense to compare the two, but Drew has been good in the past). Coco can't play right with his Johnny Damon arm.

I, too, want Keith Foulke to kick ass, even though I kind of hate the A's.
   23. Xander Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:26 PM (#2719820)
Moss' defense isn't better than Drew's. His arm might be slightly stronger (might be), but he doesn't have near the range.
   24. Dan Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:27 PM (#2719821)
Is there any word yet on why Lugo left the game in the 10th inning?
   25. Dizzypaco Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:38 PM (#2719827)
That .362/.412 line is just a line that one computer program came up with. Its not evidence of anything. Drew's career numbers are .390/.500, and even though he had an off year last year, it was still better than what ZIPS is projecting.
   26. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:40 PM (#2719830)
he's in the best shape of his life
   27. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:44 PM (#2719832)
Stop whining about Drew. Jesus.
   28. Mattbert Posted: March 25, 2008 at 04:44 PM (#2719834)
"Paps" needs to be retired as a nickname. It means "nipples".

My offering of Your Finest Chateauneuf d'Papelbon didn't get much of a response in the Chatter. I'm chalking that up to the lot of you being knuckle-dragging plebians.
   29. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 25, 2008 at 05:12 PM (#2719858)
i want to hug manny.
   30. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2008 at 05:24 PM (#2719869)
i will not stop whining about Drew, and don't call me Jesus.
   31. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: March 25, 2008 at 05:25 PM (#2719872)
Let's not forget the awesome catch Ellsbury made.
   32. plink Posted: March 25, 2008 at 05:36 PM (#2719879)
I absolutely think Snyder is a better pitcher than Aardsma, Lopez, or Corey. Doesn't mean he should have been pitching the 6th.

However, I don't think Snyder is a better pitcher than Gronkiewicz.
   33. Mattbert Posted: March 25, 2008 at 05:38 PM (#2719880)
Oh, come on. Had the timing been different, had Drew tweaked his back and been out for one game sometime in mid-June, there wouldn't be a peep about it.
   34. 44magnum Posted: March 25, 2008 at 05:52 PM (#2719895)
Matsuzaka's great play(what an athlete and what a ballplayers 1st step!) in the 1st was huge. Under exact same circumstances, how many pitchers execute that one? I always assume pitchers are awful fielders and cringe when they don't hold onto the ball in that situation. Usually a bases clearing E1 would follow that HR, BB, HBP, WP, BB mess perfectly.
   35. CrosbyBird Posted: March 25, 2008 at 06:20 PM (#2719920)
The Red Sox will win 120 regular season games this year.

Why are you selling the Sox short? If they don't do any better than match the pace they're on so far for the rest of the season they will win 162 games.
   36. Valentine Posted: March 25, 2008 at 06:21 PM (#2719922)
Mattbert, you are of course correct. It's the symbolism rather than the lost time at this point. Still, it felt like he was "day-to-day" for half the season last year without ever going on the DL. I'd rather have him commit one way or the other.
   37. Answer Guy Posted: March 25, 2008 at 06:24 PM (#2719924)
Matsuzaka's great play(what an athlete and what a ballplayers 1st step!) in the 1st was huge. Under exact same circumstances, how many pitchers execute that one?


Maybe I'm stereotyping, but it seems like the Japanese ballplayers I've seen in MLB as a group are pretty solid on the fielding skills and overall baseball sense.
   38. Srul Itza Posted: March 25, 2008 at 06:38 PM (#2719935)
I woke up at 3 a.m. this morning, just in time to watch Manny hit his second 2-run double, and almost get thrown at second because he took too long admiring what he thought was 3-run shot.

2 Doubles, 4 RBI, and 1 paradigm Manny-being-Manny moment. I think he is going to have a big year.
   39. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 25, 2008 at 07:05 PM (#2719975)
As a rule, Japanese players tend to compensate in fundamentals what they lack in tools.
That's definitely not the case with Matsuzaka, though. His defensive tools are among the best I've seen in a pitcher. He's a great athlete.
   40. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2008 at 08:14 PM (#2720092)
Oh, come on. Had the timing been different, had Drew tweaked his back and been out for one game sometime in mid-June, there wouldn't be a peep about it.


or if it hadn't happened 20 times last year, but happened today, there also wouldn't be a peep.
   41. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: March 25, 2008 at 08:15 PM (#2720093)

That .362/.412 line is just a line that one computer program came up with. Its not evidence of anything. Drew's career numbers are .390/.500, and even though he had an off year last year, it was still better than what ZIPS is projecting.


i've said it before but people ignored it at the time: drew is exactly the wrong type of hitter for fenway. go over to MLB.com, look at his hit chart for homers. he is a dead pull hitter. if he's trying to use the wall at fenway, he will fail again. somehow he needs to pull the ball more. but i think the park is just deep enough in right and center to contain him.

that's probably why zips sees his power falling off and staying off.

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_hitting_chart.jsp?playerID=136770&statType=1

check out 2007 doubles and homers at fenway, then check out his dodger stadium numbers.
   42. bunyon Posted: March 25, 2008 at 08:24 PM (#2720102)
It wouldn't surprise me if he was a few MPH down.

embree and blanton, though. embree was just hitting 90 and looked really good. when he's on his game he's in teh mid 90s.


It's still spring training. Seriously, did the Red Sox and A's pitchers report earlier than other teams pitchers? I'd guess none of them are really at full speed yet.
   43. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2008 at 08:40 PM (#2720123)
drew is exactly the wrong type of hitter for fenway


Thats true. Fenway is hell for batters who hit slow bouncers to 2nd on the four days a week they decide that they can play. ...alright just kidding.
   44. Mattbert Posted: March 25, 2008 at 10:19 PM (#2720202)
Maybe I'm stereotyping, but it seems like the Japanese ballplayers I've seen in MLB as a group are pretty solid on the fielding skills and overall baseball sense.

My high school's baseball team had the opportunity to travel to Japan and play a couple exhibition games against two of their teams. This was back in the mid-90s, but my assessment at the time was their defense was on a par with collegiate D1, if not better. Any baseball skill that can be improved simply by tireless drilling and repetition, the teams we played against were exceptional at that skill.

For example, in 18 innings of play the Japanese teams made zero errors. And that was reflected in their practice sessions: I never saw errant throws, never saw incorrect footwork, never saw poor routes to the ball, and so on. That doesn't mean they were better defenders, just that they appeared very successful at eliminating simple mistakes from their play. I wonder if this is borne out at the professional level in Japan. What is the average fielding percentage for a NBP team versus a MLB team?
   45. John DiFool2 Posted: March 25, 2008 at 10:23 PM (#2720207)
I don't get the dead pull thing at all for Drew. According to the link in post #45, he had only 7 flyouts to the right fielder at Boston all year. Instead I see a lot of medium flies to left and center; if he gets a little more oomph on some of those he'll be fine at home. You could argue that he has more power to right tho.

Anyone know if Moss will stick as the 4th corner outfielder/2nd first baseman? I think he is old enough that the old "keep him in the minors to develop" is outweighed by the needs of the big club for this season.
   46. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: March 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM (#2720233)
I think he is old enough that the old "keep him in the minors to develop" is outweighed by the needs of the big club for this season.

I agree that he doesn't need to be in the minors and should be given a chance at the big league level (like Murphy a year ago). But if he sticks on the team he'd actually be a FIFTH corner OF/THIRD first baseman, and that's not terribly necessary, even though he's a useful player. I'd like to see more from Moss, but with Crisp, Kielty and Casey hanging around and Moss still with options I don't expect him to stick in April unless trades occur or people go down.
   47. Dan Posted: March 25, 2008 at 10:56 PM (#2720235)
I'd like to see Moss take the roster spot that Casey is occupying. He's probably not as good at getting on base, but he has more power and can play the outfield. He's a much more versatile and useful bench player, I think. And basically backing up all the OF and IF corners (with Youkilis shifting to third when Lowell is rested), he ought to get a sufficient number of at bats to not rot on the bench.
   48. Valentine Posted: March 25, 2008 at 11:00 PM (#2720243)
I can't see Moss getting substantial PT until after Crisp is traded. After that, why not? Between Drew and Manny's days off, there could be 60 starts in the outfield available to Moss. I might prefer Kielty against LHP but definitely not against RHP.
   49. Rough Carrigan Posted: March 25, 2008 at 11:07 PM (#2720246)
Yeah, Drew's such a complete dead pull hitter that his two homers against Hanshin and Yomiuri were both to left center. Dead pull hitter. Uh huh.
   50. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: March 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM (#2720270)
Kielty is a reserve and not on the team am I correct?
   51. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: March 25, 2008 at 11:36 PM (#2720272)
Drew's HR against the Indians was to dead center. One HR that was ruled off the wall was to left/left center.

you have played in ZERO real games so far, glass-body...
suck it up and play


9 innings of pre season baseball is just as taxing as regular season baseball. IOW, they are real games.
   52. Nasty Nate Posted: March 26, 2008 at 12:11 AM (#2720293)
how many times this spring did Drew play 9 innings?
   53. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 26, 2008 at 12:15 AM (#2720296)
Surefire observations:

1) Pedroia will win the MVP award in 2008.

2) Moss is another Dwight Evans.

3) Lugo has turned into a combination of Rick Burleson and Rico Petrocelli.

4) The Red Sox will win 120 regular season games this year.


Bookmarked for future reference.

And no, I don't mean to hand over to the peyote police, though I have to admit that the thought crossed my mind....

Oh well, Kev, you're still on the money about Carolina, the Celtics, and steroids. Three out of four ain't bad. Perfection's not for mere mortals.
   54. Tuque Posted: March 26, 2008 at 12:50 AM (#2720313)
Also: Jack Cust will shatter the record with 648 strikeouts.

edit: I'll be conservative and say 500+ instead.
   55. Tuque Posted: March 26, 2008 at 12:53 AM (#2720314)
and: Perfection's not for mere mortals.

Are you claiming that Jacoby Ellsbury isn't perfect? Heresy! Kevin, back me up here!
   56. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: March 26, 2008 at 12:54 AM (#2720315)
The girls are 8-0 everyone....
   57. villageidiom Posted: March 26, 2008 at 01:25 AM (#2720339)
2) Moss is another Dwight Evans.
Almost two years ago I'd observed that Moss is another Trot Nixon. I stand by my statement.

Either Okajima or Delcarmen needs to be pitching that inning. You can get two innings from one of them, or 4 outs from one and 5 from the other with a 1 run lead.
I wouldn't give any of them substantially more IP than they'd have had in a late spring training outing. I know it's a real game and all, but it's also a real season, and I'd like them to last.
   58. Textbook Editor Posted: March 26, 2008 at 02:20 AM (#2720372)
I had totally forgotten about the girls' winning streak, Phil. Their winning streak was the highlight of the post-season Chatters; glad to see their mojo has carried over to 2008.
   59. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: March 26, 2008 at 06:20 AM (#2720464)
I had totally forgotten about the girls' winning streak, Phil. Their winning streak was the highlight of the post-season Chatters; glad to see their mojo has carried over to 2008.

I was reading the old chatters the other day, it was defiantly a highlight.

They are coming to the hotel to watch the first hour of the game tonight. We'll see how they go...
   60. Mattbert Posted: March 26, 2008 at 05:37 PM (#2720897)
Okay, sure. But 8-1 is nothing to sneeze at.
   61. Xander Posted: March 26, 2008 at 08:30 PM (#2721100)
Can a brother get a minor league thread? My goodness.
   62. Darren Posted: March 27, 2008 at 12:17 AM (#2721301)
Nice post MHS.

I agree MCOA's assessment of what I would have said if I got around to posting. Been a bit too busy lately. Dumb bullpen management but nothing unexpected.

Almost two years ago I'd observed that Moss is another Trot Nixon. I stand by my statement.


And I stand by my statement that that is kooky talk.

Temple, sorry for the lack of posts, but I don't see it increasing much soon. Maybe in a month or two.
   63. Xander Posted: March 27, 2008 at 12:35 AM (#2721313)
I was just joking Darren. But can you just make a catch-all minor league thread? I'll fill it up.
   64. Darren Posted: March 27, 2008 at 12:37 AM (#2721315)
No. Okay, yes.
   65. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: March 27, 2008 at 12:59 AM (#2721325)
The loss had to come...

damn!
   66. Mike Webber Posted: March 27, 2008 at 02:51 PM (#2721621)
Hi, I am just now watching game 2, apparently ESPN had no radar gun readings, and I was wondering what Lester's velocity was like.

I seems like Lester's main problem is he was working too high in the strike zone, which caused him to fall behind, is that what other's saw?

Thanks!
   67. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 27, 2008 at 04:28 PM (#2721715)
I thought Lester's problem was that he had zero command of his cutter, so he couldn't do anything against RHB. He had a pretty good curve, so got the lefties.

Lester's fastball command looked pretty ok - he's not going to turn into a control guy overnight, but if he can mix cutters and fastballs against righties, they won't be able to sit on the bad ones that miss in the zone.

Lefties were 1-6 with a walk and two Ks, righties were 4-11 with two walks, two Ks and a homer.
   68. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: March 28, 2008 at 12:19 PM (#2722272)
Almost two years ago I'd observed that Moss is another Trot Nixon. I stand by my statement.

I made that assertion about 6 months ago. I think everybody just ignored me.
   69. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:28 AM (#2722935)
Anyone watching the Dodgers game?

Colon going along okay. Just gave up his first hit in the bottom of the third to Furcal.
   70. Dan Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:41 AM (#2722940)
Yeah I'm watching, for some reason MLB.tv is working for me, don't know if this game is free or if it's because I bought it last year, but I just put it on in the 4th inning. Colon seems to be pitching great though the Dodgers broadcast doesn't have any radar gun readings.
   71. Dan Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:44 AM (#2722944)
Hmm, in Gameday he appears to be throwing between 91 and 94 MPH.
   72. Dan Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:44 AM (#2722945)
Wow, Pierre really is useless. He can't even drag bunt on a fastball?
   73. villageidiom Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:48 AM (#2722947)
It's not on TV in CT, Phil.
   74. villageidiom Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:52 AM (#2722951)
And MLB.TV isn't free for me.
   75. villageidiom Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:53 AM (#2722952)
But I am starting to like this Lugo guy.
   76. villageidiom Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:57 AM (#2722956)
Two outs, Tek up, 0-for-2 with 2 K's. Gee, I wonder...

EDIT: Yep.
   77. Dan Posted: March 29, 2008 at 03:59 AM (#2722958)
So now between the two Oakland games and this game, Varitek is is 0-11 with 9 strikeouts and a GIDP. That is rough.
   78. Dan Posted: March 29, 2008 at 04:00 AM (#2722959)
I wonder if this means that it automatically started my 5 day free trial for MLB.tv for the year, or what.
   79. villageidiom Posted: March 29, 2008 at 04:08 AM (#2722960)
So now between the two Oakland games and this game, Varitek is is 0-11 with 9 strikeouts and a GIDP. That is rough.

Makes you wonder if this is next.
   80. villageidiom Posted: March 29, 2008 at 04:10 AM (#2722963)
Oh, well, off to bed.
   81. villageidiom Posted: March 30, 2008 at 01:52 AM (#2723306)
Anyone watching the game tonight? I might watch the first few innings, just for the novelty of seeing Manny play "the other wall" in left at the Coliseum.

EDIT: The Globe reports that "Manny Ramirez would not play tonight, his spot in left field taken by Bobby Kielty, and most regulars would get just an at-bat or two." It's a novelty nonetheless.
   82. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: March 30, 2008 at 02:32 AM (#2723327)
I am, VI. I see Drew is still out. Interesting camera angles at the Masoleum.

Why did Crisp play Wednesday? I never heard an explanation. They trying to get him some PT?
   83. villageidiom Posted: March 30, 2008 at 02:37 AM (#2723331)
Neither did I, GGC. I think your guess is good. They're both playing tonight.

I'm effectively chattering in the Woodstock thread.
   84. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: March 30, 2008 at 02:42 AM (#2723332)
I'm sure Dodger Thoughts at Baseball Toaster has a chatter. I'm going out for a drink.
   85. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 30, 2008 at 03:10 PM (#2723482)
Roster news: Per redsox.com, Timlin has been DL'd with that cut on his finger, and so all of Corey, Lopez, and Aardsma will make the opening day roster. One of them will have to be cut when Beckett returns, and then another when Timlin returns (if there are no other injuries in between).

C Varitek, Cash
1B Youkilis, Casey
2B Pedroia
SS Lugo, Cora
3B Lowell
OF Manny, Ellsbury, Drew, Crisp
DH Papi

SP Matsuzaka, Lester, Wakefield, Buchholz
RP Papelbon, Okajima, Delcarmen, Corey, Aardsma, Lopez, Snyder, Tavarez

There's an open question of what to do with Kielty. If he accepts assignment to Pawtucket, then it's all good. But if he doesn't want the assignment, that's a bit of a problem because the Red Sox should have Kielty lined up as their 4th OF once they trade Coco. I'd rather risk losing Corey or Aardsma than Kielty - especially since they're probably going to have to cut one of those guys this week - but hopefully the Red Sox can work it out.
   86. villageidiom Posted: April 01, 2008 at 12:00 PM (#2726121)
It appears that Kielty has accepted the Pawtucket assignment.
   87. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 02, 2008 at 02:37 PM (#2727666)
So, Dice-K's pretty awesome when he can command four different pitches in the zone, huh?
   88. tfbg9 Posted: April 02, 2008 at 05:38 PM (#2727850)
And the opposition's the Swingin' A's?
   89. villageidiom Posted: April 02, 2008 at 11:41 PM (#2728537)
You're both right. DM had decent command last night, but his success was partly due to the team he was facing.

So far, they're 3 of 4 on the road to start the season, with Beckett and Schilling on the DL. That's not the way I'd imagined it, but I'll take it.
   90. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 04, 2008 at 12:27 PM (#2730202)
I thought Matsuzaka's command was more than decent. He's a Cy Young contender with that command, whomever he's facing.

In other news, Colon had a dominant start in minor league camp, allowing a single and a walk in five innings, with five Ks. He hit 96 on the gun, and his last pitch (his 74th) was clocked at 95. I hate to do this, but it sounds like Colon might be... healthy. (Globe report)
   91. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 04, 2008 at 12:52 PM (#2730216)
I notice Moss is back down. Who replaced him on the roster?
See my post 92 for the current roster. There are only 4 OF on the team. Reports are that Moss is going to play a bunch of 1B at Pawtucket, presumably in order to step into the Eric Hinske memorial bench slot sometime midseason. Wok was apparently on the money with that projection last summer.
   92. Valentine Posted: April 04, 2008 at 12:58 PM (#2730224)
A few comments:
* Matsuzaka had some terrific starts last year too (esp. June-July). He "simply" needs to maintain that consistently over a full season.

* The Red Sox had a 28-man roster in Japan. Moss was one of those extra three players.

* Masterson is still at AA, IIRC, a level where he has already had excellent success. I would like to see him in Pawtucket soon.
   93. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 04, 2008 at 01:06 PM (#2730236)
I can see the case for going slow with Masterson. The reports I've read are that his sinker is already major-league ready, but his secondary offerings are all works in progress. According to BA, he has an inconsistent slider and a nearly non-existent change. I would guess that the Sox want Masterson to work on those pitches this year, and it makes sense not to push him up the ladder too quickly if he's making adjustments to his pitching style.

Masterson had a 4.34 ERA in Portland last year, too. All the component numbers - K, BB, HR, H - were very good, but apparently he didn't pitch well in the clutch, or from the stretch, or something. So that could be another thing to work on (or a sample size fluke, of course).
   94. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 04, 2008 at 01:14 PM (#2730247)
Masterson won last nite

EDIT: I forgot to read the first page before posting that. I'll buy kevin a coke in Baltimore.
   95. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 04, 2008 at 01:23 PM (#2730261)
Maybe overinterpreting, but I think Masterson's quote in the article GGC linked supports my reading of his situation in AA:
"The sinker was doing real good," Masterson said about his best pitch. "The slider was OK. It was a little more extra loopy than I wanted it to be, not as tight. I threw a couple changeups in there and I got a nice ground ball on it, so that was working well. I was real happy with where everything was."
   96. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: April 04, 2008 at 03:08 PM (#2730377)
I'm not sure about his pitches, but Masterson needs to work on his grammar.
   97. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 07, 2008 at 01:57 AM (#2733075)
Any particular reason that they let Lugo hit to end the game?
   98. Chip Posted: April 07, 2008 at 02:17 AM (#2733093)
Tito doing his "players' manager" thing. "You've screwed up in the field all day, but I've still got your back and want you to redeem yourself."
   99. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: April 07, 2008 at 11:55 AM (#2733207)
I thought that it might be something like that; Francona hoping that it boosts his confidence or something.
   100. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 07, 2008 at 12:27 PM (#2733220)
Well, that and the bench sucks. Who would you pinch hit with? Coco, Cora, Cash, or Casey? All four bench players are defense-first.

Casey's a better hitter than Lugo, and he had the platoon advantage, but given that what you're looking for there is a HR, he's not the perfect guy for the job. Given also the large drop in effectiveness that the average pinch-hitter sees, it's probably in the range of defensible to use Lugo there.

I think it probably should have been Casey, but it's annoying that Sean Casey is the best hitter on the Red Sox bench.
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