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Monday, January 08, 2018

Is This Thing On?

Crickets man, that’s all there is.  I have wanted to put something down and keep the chatter going but I got absolutely nothing.  There really isn’t a lot happening throughout the baseball world and the Sox are no exception. Presumably something is going to happen relatively soon as throughout baseball teams are just a month and change away from pitchers and Molinas reporting and both players and management are going to want to get settled in.  Management is going to want decisions made and players have to make travel and housing arrangements and while that is easier for them than a college sophomore it is still a hassle they will want completed.

On the Sox front the status quo exists and that is not a bad thing.  The Sox are coming off successive 93 win, division title campaigns and improved from 0 to 1 post season victories so they are on the rise!  I think the encouraging thing for me is that Dombrowski has stayed patient. He does not appear to be in any rush to move guys like Bradley or even Swihart and I think that’s a plus.  Bradley is a classic case of a guy who a bad organization will look at his flaws and a good organization will look at his strengths.  Ultimately JBJ was a 3 win player last year and if that is all he is that is still very useful particularly at his cost.

Swihart is another interesting one.  I’d be shocked to see the Sox enter 2018 with three catchers but if Swihart brings some versatility to the table he can be a useful bench player.  I’m still hopeful that he has a career in him though I can’t help but think the Sox broke him in 2016.

The Steven Wright situation is a bit different.  I won’t try and weigh in on the substance of the issue but I think it is highly likely that the Sox will be missing their fluttering phenomenon for a short time at the start of the season.  On the one hand that is not ideal, on the other hand it gives the Sox a bit of wiggle room on roster construction to start the season.  A healthy and productive Wright filling that middle of the rotation inning eating role that Wakefield filled for so long would be a big boost for a team that needed Doug Fister to save its bacon a year ago.

Anyway, just didn’t want y’all to feel like you were being neglected.  I mean you are, I just don’t want you to feel that way.  Hopefully some things will start happening and we can start getting a better feel for the 2018 club.

Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: January 08, 2018 at 03:04 PM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. ericr Posted: January 08, 2018 at 05:16 PM (#5602990)
Are we witnessing a shift in the free agency schedule? In the past few years, there were a few oddities where quality free agents signed late in the game. This year, it seems like it's everyone.
   2. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: January 08, 2018 at 05:29 PM (#5603001)
I don't think so. I think this is a weird year;

1. You have several big spenders sitting this one out to get under the luxury tax.

2. Next year is a potentially ridiculous class so teams are gearing up for that and trying to keep the decks cleared for that.

3. This year's class isn't special. Is there anyone on the list you look at and think "he's a future Hall of Famer?" Guys like Hosmer and Martinez are very very good but not superstars. They are not unlike last year's class and the contracts those guys got were much less than what is being tossed around here (Turner 4/64, Encarnacion 3/60, Cespedes 4/110) and you've got those guys targeting considerably longer deals. I suspect if Martinez took a Cespedes deal he would've signed on November 30 like Cespedes did.
   3. ericr Posted: January 09, 2018 at 11:21 AM (#5603323)
It is a weird year for sure, but there must've been previous years similar to it, and I don't remember any delay like this.
   4. villageidiom Posted: January 09, 2018 at 05:21 PM (#5603657)
Anyway, just didn’t want y’all to feel like you were being neglected.  I mean you are, I just don’t want you to feel that way.
HEY, I'M THE ONE WHO DOES THE NEGLECTING AROUND HERE.
Are we witnessing a shift in the free agency schedule? In the past few years, there were a few oddities where quality free agents signed late in the game. This year, it seems like it's everyone.
As Jose suggested, there aren't many quality free agents this year. But still, this doesn't seem like an atypical year to me, except that there flat-out isn't any baseball news of any kind for us to react to. Last year we had Buchholz getting traded, and the continued dramas around issues both medical (Swihart, Wright) and gastronomical (Sandoval) to sort out. This year we have... Patriots in first, Celtics in first, Bruins in 2nd with a bullet, and the Red Sox doing absolutely nothing to distract us from any of that. It's weird.
   5. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: January 10, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5603959)
I wonder what the Marlins would want for Starlin Castro. He seems like he'd be a good fit in the Nunez role. Can he fake it at shortstop or third base if need be? Not like Nunez was a Mark Belanger/Brooks Robinson impersonator.
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: January 10, 2018 at 01:04 PM (#5604080)
Did you know that he had asked the Marlins for a trade, or just a coincidence?
   7. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 10, 2018 at 01:20 PM (#5604094)
He seems like he'd be a good fit in the Nunez role.


The name I've been hearing, especially with Gerritt Cole getting traded, is Josh Harrison from Pitt. Less bat than Castro, but better defense, and with two option years on his contract is pretty ideal for what the Sox need.
   8. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: January 10, 2018 at 01:25 PM (#5604099)
Did you know that he had asked the Marlins for a trade, or just a coincidence?


Yeah that was the trigger. I had had the thought when the trade happened as it wasn't a big reach to think they might flip him. If he's actively interested in getting out then count me in.

Harrison is interesting too. Those are definitely the guys they should be poking around. I suspect the cost for Castro would be considerably less than the cost for Harrison.
   9. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 10, 2018 at 02:18 PM (#5604125)
I suspect the cost for Castro would be considerably less than the cost for Harrison.


Eh, not so sure about that. Harrison is 30 and has the 3rd highest contract on the Pirates team this year. Plus, he just had his 2nd best season, after two sorta down years. Pittsburgh could very well be motivated to sell him while his value his high. And for the Sox specifically - in theory their need for a 2B goes away in June, so Pitt could lose a trade partner if they wait until mid season to trade him.

Conversely, I sorta feel like the Marlins have dug themselves into a hole a little bit. Their PR is so bad I could see them holding on to their disgruntled players for a bit just so they don't have to face even more scorn for completely gutting the team. I'm guessing Castro won't be moved until mid-season at the earliest, once the smattering of fans in Miami realize it doesn't matter if the Marlins trade every player with any value, they are going to suck regardless.
   10. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 12, 2018 at 04:17 PM (#5605659)
Supposedly The Sox have come to an agreement with every arb eligible player except for Betts. Hope they can avoid having to present their case against him.
   11. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: January 12, 2018 at 05:07 PM (#5605704)
That would be nice. I think Mookie is a bit like Ellsbury in that he understands the business aspect of this and is willing to go year to year.

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