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   1. Bad Fish Posted: March 29, 2018 at 11:31 PM (#5645396)
They are only human, yada..yada. When the team has the lead after the 6th and the BP coughs it us it is always a gut punch. This is a loss that should have been a win.
   2. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: March 30, 2018 at 06:52 AM (#5645427)
At the end of the 7th Ms McGunnigle sent a taunting email to her father in St Petersburg. The bullpen disintegrated almost immediately thereafter. It's her fault; I'll be filing for divorce as soon as the courthouse opens for business.
   3. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: March 30, 2018 at 08:44 AM (#5645441)
Yeah you gotta send her to the curb that can't happen.

The difference between how I feel about Joe Kelly as a person and Joe Kelly as a pitcher is dramatic. I love my pitchers who are athletic and field their position well so of course he's right up my alley. On top of that I got to be on field for BP shortly after the trade in 2014 and Kelly couldn't have been nicer to everyone signing everything in sight, taking selfies and generally being chummy. He didn't just sign or take the picture, he actually engaged people, had genuine conversations. Just an all around good guy.

But the pitcher man...one of the reasons I hate the NBA is I find it to be all sizzle and no steak. Everything is about getting "posterized" and ankle breaking and how things look. Kelly is the baseball equivalent. "He can throw 102 MPH, he's awesome!!!!" No he's not. Every pitch is straight as a string and he has no put away pitch. On top of that his control is a shitshow so you can't trust him at all.
   4. Darren Posted: March 30, 2018 at 08:50 AM (#5645444)
That was a bummer. On the baserunning, I think two completely unforced errors on the bases is concerning. Remy may have said it was just a bad read, but bad reads are bad. And getting picked off should be pretty rare. It's only one game, though.

It does seem like you could have gotten a win by either extending Sale or Kimbrel a bit, but they had a 4-run lead. 90+ percent of the time, your lesser bullpen members can wrap that up (and your offense may also score a couple to put it out of reach). I agree that Kelly is just not a very good pitcher.

How about Hanley Ramirez, opening day starter against a righty and batting 3rd? At least he looked terrible. I wonder what injury he has that we will find out about after he triggers his option.

Why didn't Martinez hit some HRs? I mean, at least 1 or 2.

   5. Answer Guy, without side hustles. Posted: March 30, 2018 at 09:20 AM (#5645458)
That was a bummer. On the baserunning, I think two completely unforced errors on the bases is concerning. Remy may have said it was just a bad read, but bad reads are bad. And getting picked off should be pretty rare. It's only one game, though.


I wouldn't be as concerned if the team running themselves out of big innings wasn't also an issue last season. But it was.

Joe Kelly should be relegated to mop-up duty.

I'd at least consider DFA'ing Hanley if he looks this bad June 1.
   6. Darren Posted: March 30, 2018 at 09:59 AM (#5645479)
You know, Moreland was hitting really well before his injury last year. A healthy Moreland might actually be better than a healthy Hanley vs. righties.

My hope is that they're planning to strictly platoon them at home, where Moreland seems to thrive, and then maybe lean toward Hanley on the road.
   7. villageidiom Posted: March 30, 2018 at 12:11 PM (#5645672)
I wouldn't be as concerned if the team running themselves out of big innings wasn't also an issue last season. But it was.
They got more benefit from their aggressiveness last year than detriment. I'm not sure they'd have done better being more conservative in the times it cost them because to do that they would also have had to be more conservative in the times it didn't.

Two exceptions to this:

1. Devers and Benintendi. I recall them making rookie mistakes on the bases last year. Hopefully they've improved this year.

2. Butterfield. I'm not sure simply "being aggressive" in a post-Butterfield era is the best course of action. He excelled at coaching this stuff, so without him in the 3B box aggressiveness on the bases might not be a net positive.

Not that either of these can be definitively put to rest after one game...
   8. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: March 30, 2018 at 10:05 PM (#5646026)
If Sale and Price want to pitch like this we are going to be just fine methinks.
   9. dave h Posted: March 30, 2018 at 11:03 PM (#5646065)
And Bogaerts! Woo-ee.
   10. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: March 30, 2018 at 11:40 PM (#5646078)
Yeah I’m enjoying this version of Bogaerts.
   11. Dale Sams Posted: March 31, 2018 at 12:47 AM (#5646114)
I think these are all perfectly reasonable hot takes.

In addition to my own: "We have TWO relievers we trust??? JFC, this is gonna be a long season."
   12. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: April 01, 2018 at 05:52 PM (#5646550)
-Amazing what happens when you throw strikes Joe. There were two pitches in that game that I LOVED. I didn’t like Barnes throwing the 1-2 curve to Duffy but then I loved him doubling up on it and then the change up to end it was a great call. Let Span get himself out, you knew he’d be geared up for #1.

-Another base running blunder today, this one on Febles for waving home Holt. That was a terrible decision not just based on result but game situation, one out in the inning and your best hitter coming to bat. Hold Holt and let JDM hit with the bases loaded and one out. So every game this series we had a runner thrown out on the bases. I don’t mind that if we are taking extra bases as well but I didn’t sense that we did that nor did a lot of those situations seem like good gambles (except the Betts steal, I’m fine with that).

-I liked the way Cora played it today. Walden wasn’t exactly fooling anyone but he did a job and then I liked going Barnes-Kelly rather than Kelly-Barnes. Rather than having a couple of guys in different than usual roles you keep Barnes in a familiar (set up) role then use Kelly as a Swiss Army knife. Takashi Saito in 2009 is always my go to example.

-Dombrowski (or someone) deserves a ton of credit for finding Velazquez in the Mexican League. As rotation depth he is pretty useful. The Rays aren’t good of course but other than his first start last year he’s been pretty good. As a 7th/8th starter he’s not bad.
   13. Jay Seaver Posted: April 01, 2018 at 09:42 PM (#5646594)
Thing I've kind of been wondering about all weekend: J.D. Martinez actually has his initials on his away jersey along with his name, and there's not another Martinez on the team. Is this just something he's had on other teams and brought with him to Boston, or did they retire plain "Martinez" jerseys along with Pedro's number?
   14. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: April 02, 2018 at 08:08 AM (#5646650)
Because. Don't click the link, this is the full "article."

J.D. Martinez is the only player named Martinez on the Red Sox roster. But it will say “J.D. Martinez” on the back of his road jersey, not just his last name.

It goes back to 2014 when he was signed by the Detroit Tigers.

“They already had Victor Martinez. Our clubby, Jim Schmakel, said we could put ‘J. Martinez’ on the back but there was room for ‘J.D.’ if I wanted that. It seemed cool,” Martinez said.
   15. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 02, 2018 at 08:46 AM (#5646655)
Thing I've kind of been wondering about all weekend: J.D. Martinez actually has his initials on his away jersey along with his name, and there's not another Martinez on the team. Is this just something he's had on other teams and brought with him to Boston, or did they retire plain "Martinez" jerseys along with Pedro's number?


JD Martinex doesn't abbreviate. Each letter is as important as the one that preceded it; maybe more important!
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: April 04, 2018 at 09:35 AM (#5647868)
This may be a tired subject, but I like that Cora didn't hold Kimbrel back for a save situation last night. I know that two *gasp* non-closers had to pitch in save situations and one of them failed, but as we saw, giving up a run in a save situation isn't necessarily a loss like giving up a run in a tie game would be.
   17. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: April 04, 2018 at 10:23 AM (#5647898)
I wouldn't be as concerned if the team running themselves out of big innings wasn't also an issue last season. But it was.

Definitely been quite a few more baserunning mistakes in the last few games. It is a worrying trend.
   18. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 04, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5647956)
Devers out on the bases was def a mistake, but I was ok with JBJ. That was just a very good throw and tag. I think he's safe more times than not.
   19. jmurph Posted: April 04, 2018 at 12:28 PM (#5647976)
I felt good coming into the year but even I didn't expect 161-1. Yet here we are. Is it too early to start rooting for specific World Series opponents?
   20. Nasty Nate Posted: April 04, 2018 at 12:40 PM (#5647994)
I felt good coming into the year but even I didn't expect 161-1. Yet here we are. Is it too early to start rooting for specific World Series opponents?
Nationals. It will be easier to get to Washington than LA or Chicago if I want to splurge on Game 4 tickets and see the clinching game.
   21. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 04, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5648003)

I felt good coming into the year but even I didn't expect 161-1. Yet here we are. Is it too early to start rooting for specific World Series opponents?


I don't know about 161-1, but I am fairly confident the team will go to the WS if the starters maintain a collective 1.03 ERA.
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: April 04, 2018 at 12:54 PM (#5648012)

Devers out on the bases was def a mistake, but I was ok with JBJ. That was just a very good throw and tag. I think he's safe more times than not.


JBJ's mistake was that he was way too close to the bag when the pitch was delivered, and didn't get off far enough after the pitcher committed to home. You've got to be off the bag more than that in a one-out, tied-game, late-innings situation.

   23. jmurph Posted: April 04, 2018 at 01:00 PM (#5648020)
Nationals. It will be easier to get to Washington than LA or Chicago if I want to splurge on Game 4 tickets and see the clinching game.

Ooh I'll take this. I have more places to stay for free in Washington than in the other two. Also the Nats are going 161-1 as well, so that just makes for a better series, historically-speaking.
   24. Jay Seaver Posted: April 04, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5648023)
This may be a tired subject, but I like that Cora didn't hold Kimbrel back for a save situation last night.


I was quite frankly shocked that they were talking about it like it was controversial and worrisome that Cora did that on the post-game; 1 run in the 10th loses the game without it ever getting to a "save situation", it would take three in the 13th, of course using the best reliever earlier was the right call. I didn't stay tuned into that long enough to see if Cora put it that way (Legion was on and it was an extra-long episode), but I really hope that's the way he's thinking in general.
   25. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2018 at 01:08 PM (#5648029)
I felt good coming into the year but even I didn't expect 161-1. Yet here we are. Is it too early to start rooting for specific World Series opponents?

Nationals. It will be easier to get to Washington than LA or Chicago if I want to splurge on Game 4 tickets and see the clinching game.

Those that the Baseball Gods would smite, they first make arrogant, and then, Pants Pissers.
   26. Mike Webber Posted: April 04, 2018 at 01:27 PM (#5648060)

I was quite frankly shocked that they were talking about it like it was controversial and worrisome that Cora did that on the post-game; 1 run in the 10th loses the game without it ever getting to a "save situation"


I think if I was the GM with a new manager, I'd tell him that the closer pitches the 10th. I'd make the analytics department come up with some stat about why it's the key inning. Then we'd tell the closer and his agent that this is the plan, because supposedly pitchers do better when they know their role. I actually think that is more true than false, but this way we're all on the same page. Someone can leak it to the media, and why we are doing it.

Now if you have Buck Showalter or some other veteran manager you probably can't do this, but with Cora you could.

If your closer is still in arbitration he might not like this, because saves is where the money is in arbitration. But Kimbrel's next contract is going to be set by the market, and it's not whether he gets a couple more saves during the year.
   27. Nasty Nate Posted: April 04, 2018 at 01:33 PM (#5648069)

I think if I was the GM with a new manager, I'd tell him that the closer pitches the 10th. I'd make the analytics department come up with some stat about why it's the key inning. Then we'd tell the closer and his agent that this is the plan, because supposedly pitchers do better when they know their role.
Well, I don't know why the 10th is the magic inning - sometimes he should be in there in the 9th. And telling him that he is pitching in the 9th in close games is basically already what he knows his role to be.
   28. Mike Webber Posted: April 04, 2018 at 01:43 PM (#5648081)
Well, I don't know why the 10th is the magic inning - sometimes he should be in there in the 9th. And telling him that he is pitching in the 9th in close games is basically already what he knows his role to be.

I'm good with that too, I just don't want him not getting used.
   29. jmurph Posted: April 04, 2018 at 01:45 PM (#5648084)
Those that the Baseball Gods would smite, they first make arrogant, and then, Pants Pissers.

Spoken like a fan of the team that's going to win 97 games and miss the playoffs. Tough break. But hey, 5 teams are going to win at least 108 games in the AL, it happens.

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