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   1. Darren Posted: May 24, 2009 at 03:18 AM (#3191003)
Look, a Sox Therapy thread!
   2. 1k5v3L Posted: May 24, 2009 at 05:17 AM (#3191048)
Papelbon should've probably followed Pedroia/Youkilis and signed a long term deal with the BoSox this past offseason.
   3. Obama Bomaye Posted: May 24, 2009 at 05:32 AM (#3191062)
The deflating of Sex Doll will be a most enjoyable sequel to the vitiation of Vagitek and the continuing breakdown of Big Popup.
   4. konaforever Posted: May 24, 2009 at 05:39 AM (#3191066)
The deflating of Sex Doll will be a most enjoyable sequel to the vitiation of Vagitek and the continuing breakdown of Big Popup.


The IQ is weak in this one.
   5. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: May 24, 2009 at 05:45 AM (#3191069)
Papelbon's walk rate has quadrupled from last year to this. He's actually been quite lucky that he hadn't blown more saves before tonight's fiasco; he's been hittable when in the zone and allowing far too many free passes.

His new mechanics blow and he should scrap them immediately. He's lost everything that made him ridiculously good last year due to the changes. I can't understand why he'd want to make changes in the first place, but then again he's not the sharpest tool in the shed so I guess there's no searching for a good reason.
   6. nick swisher hygiene Posted: May 24, 2009 at 05:54 AM (#3191071)
then again he's not the sharpest tool in the shed


how do we know that Papelbon can even remember his old mechanics?
   7. Cowboy Popup Posted: May 24, 2009 at 05:54 AM (#3191072)
Wow, just looked at his numbers, you guys aren't kidding about the walk rate. Still when he misses as many bats as he does, it's still going to be hard on teams to capitalize on his walks. His hits per 9 is still pretty low. But I'm all for him going from unbeatable to merely very good.
   8. Chip Posted: May 24, 2009 at 06:24 AM (#3191082)
Didn't they change his mechanics once already, after he popped the shoulder out a couple of years ago? WTF would he change again?
   9. Mattbert Posted: May 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM (#3191103)
Daniel Bard for pope!
   10. OCD SS Posted: May 24, 2009 at 11:57 AM (#3191106)
I can't understand why he'd want to make changes in the first place, but then again he's not the sharpest tool in the shed so I guess there's no searching for a good reason.


You know, I think we make a lot of assumptions about what's going on within the "black box" of the Sox FO and medical system that may not be warranted. Instead of thinking that the people on the inside are dumb, perhaps we should be trying to take their confusing decisions as clues to what is really going on.

Suppose Paps shoulder/arm is in much worse shape than we think: It would explain the need for yet another set of mechanics. If we take this further, then maybe the lack of a longterm contract is posturing from both sides. The Sox did wind up paying Lester well above what anyone thought a player of his service time would get, so it's not like they might not be willing to overpay a bit for a young star. It makes sense to me that the Sox would tell Paps that the only way they will sign him long term because of the risk is at a substantially reduced rate (they have his medicals and probably have a better idea of its long term structural integrity than he does). We never had any idea of the dollar figures being discussed, so Paps' insistence on extracting every last $ is so much PR noise...
   11. Darren Posted: May 24, 2009 at 02:07 PM (#3191127)
You know, I think we make a lot of assumptions about what's going on within the "black box" of the Sox FO and medical system that may not be warranted. Instead of thinking that the people on the inside are dumb, perhaps we should be trying to take their confusing decisions as clues to what is really going on.

I dunno, that doesn't sound nearly as fun.


I don't see how they overpaid for Lester.
   12. Darren Posted: May 24, 2009 at 02:09 PM (#3191129)
We never had any idea of the dollar figures being discussed, so Paps' insistence on extracting every last $ is so much PR noise...


But if Pap actually wanted to sign long-term, you'd think his PR would be "Hey, I really want to sign long term with my beloved Red Sox, but they don't seem to like me that much."
   13. OCD SS Posted: May 24, 2009 at 03:08 PM (#3191155)
Darren, he could've done that, but it would pretty much guarantee that his medical status would come out (if his shoulder were shot). That would probably hurt his bargaining position down the line. In the meantime, the Sox give him some very healthy raises and he avoids arbitration; if everyone "stays friends" it stays in house and is better for all concerned.

I don't see how they overpaid for Lester.


I think it went pretty far over what the last contract for a pitcher with similar service time got. That's not to say it's a bad deal, just more than I thought he'd get (I thought Haren's first deal was a good comp and Lester more than doubled it).
   14. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: May 25, 2009 at 09:31 PM (#3192583)
Awful again today. Sure, Mauer's hitting everything to the Altair system lately, but that's the second game in a row Papelbon has allowed a bomb. He's damn lucky he was being asked to close out the easiest possible save.

His location is simply not right.
   15. Darren Posted: May 25, 2009 at 11:05 PM (#3192663)
11 HR for Mauer in ~100 PA. Wow.

Didn't see Pap today, but not surprising. I'm surprised he hasn't been burned before this.
   16. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 26, 2009 at 03:29 AM (#3193288)
I would trade Papelbon straight up for pretty much anything, right now. I just want him off of the team while he still has any value whatsoever.
   17. Chip Posted: May 26, 2009 at 04:18 AM (#3193336)
Looking at Gameday, he went to the outside corner on three straight pitches to get to 1-2, then tried to challenge Mauer inside with a fastball. And couldn't get it by him. The jokes about his "straight" fastball don't seem so funny anymore when you see a result like that.
   18. Hugh Jorgan Posted: May 26, 2009 at 06:13 AM (#3193397)
Please, all of you, tell me what happened to that wicked splitter Paps used to throw a year or two ago? Was that my imagination? Where the f*ck is that pitch?
   19. Tripon Posted: May 26, 2009 at 06:15 AM (#3193398)

Looking at Gameday, he went to the outside corner on three straight pitches to get to 1-2, then tried to challenge Mauer inside with a fastball. And couldn't get it by him. The jokes about his "straight" fastball don't seem so funny anymore when you see a result like that.


Yeah, but who's usually good enough to fit a fastball like that? Mauer, A-Rod, Pujols, etc.? Its not a big class.
   20. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: May 26, 2009 at 06:21 AM (#3193401)
Mauer is white hot now - i was not that upset by it. Paps looked good vs. the Jays last week - are we getting a little too excited and down on him. If he is slightly hurt than a DL stint is a must - we have Ramon and Masterson who could fill in and Saito as well - we'd be fine. Now is teh chance to rest him.
   21. OCD SS Posted: May 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM (#3193441)
Please, all of you, tell me what happened to that wicked splitter Paps used to throw a year or two ago? Was that my imagination? Where the f*ck is that pitch?


I chalk it's disappearance up to the conspiracy theory I outlined above. My guess is he's been told not to throw it because of the extra strain it puts on his arm. Having not thrown it all that much, he's probably lost the feel for it, so the few that he does throw just aren't nearly the plus pitches they used to be.
   22. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 26, 2009 at 12:47 PM (#3193475)
Mauer is white hot now - i was not that upset by it. Paps looked good vs. the Jays last week - are we getting a little too excited and down on him. If he is slightly hurt than a DL stint is a must - we have Ramon and Masterson who could fill in and Saito as well - we'd be fine. Now is teh chance to rest him.

I don't think I've seen Paps look "good" all season. He's been good enough, but never good. They have to dump him on some sucker right now, and get something for him while they still can.
   23. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: May 26, 2009 at 12:52 PM (#3193481)
Paps looked good vs. the Jays last week - are we getting a little too excited and down on him.

He is walking guys way above his career norms. His HR rate has spiked as well (1.3 per 9, vs. 0.5 per 9 last year and 0.8 per 9 in 2007). His K/BB rate in 2008 was 9.63; this year it's 2.18.

We are not getting too down on him. His performance is way, way off from his career norms. I think some slide might have been expected; if it was a modest drop then it would be fair to say he was a victim of his own success. But his indicators are all much worse than a year ago. He's had only 4 1-2-3 innings this season in 20 appearances. He's morphed into heart attack closer territory.

I'd say that's more than reasonable cause for concern. Giving up a HR to Mauer is aggravating but understandable; giving up a long bomb to a complete nobody to cost the Sox a game against the Mets was awful.

He's got to get this #### worked out. I have to wonder if he's having arm problems again. The loss of both command and control, plus the disappearance of the split might indicate that.
   24. Fancy Pants Handle doesn't need no water Posted: May 26, 2009 at 01:02 PM (#3193489)
He is walking guys way above his career norms.
Yup

His HR rate has spiked as well (1.3 per 9, vs. 0.5 per 9 last year and 0.8 per 9 in 2007).
That's a total difference of 2 HR's. Which could be randomness, or just a byproduct of having to face more guys per inning due to his walks.

His K/BB rate in 2008 was 9.63; this year it's 2.18.
His K-rate is the same as last year, so it's just walks again. You've trebble counted them now. The walks are what it boils down to. If he can control them, he'll be just fine.
   25. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 27, 2009 at 07:37 PM (#3195818)
I have little confidence that Paplebon will stay healthy for any length of time. I think Paplebon plays with his delivery, despite excellent past performance, for two reasons:

1) he has publicly described how freaked out he was a few years ago when he thought he had severly damaged his pitching arm, and it may be that this is on his mind even more often than the average pitcher;
2) because his negotiating tactics are focused on year-to-year contracts, refusing to consider buying out FA years a la Lester and Pedroia, he has far less financial security than the others. Indeed, he is making a calculated decision that he will make more money in the long run by going year-to-year through free agency, doing well in arbitration, and then cashing in with a K-Rod type contract. If he's healthy through his FA year, then he may be right - but if every year we're hearing about arm-related issues, I can't believe somebody will give K-Rod or Rivera money in a few years...
   26. Famous Original Joe C Posted: May 27, 2009 at 07:47 PM (#3195844)
We are not getting too down on him. His performance is way, way off from his career norms.

Yes, you are. He has thrown 21 innings this year. 21. I agree he has some command issues with the fastball so far, but those of you saying he needs to be traded right away or that he is "much worse" than past years had better come up with something better than the raw stats to back up your claims. 21 innings is not a big enough sample on which to hang your hat.
   27. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 27, 2009 at 08:07 PM (#3195874)
Yes, you are. He has thrown 21 innings this year. 21. I agree he has some command issues with the fastball so far, but those of you saying he needs to be traded right away or that he is "much worse" than past years had better come up with something better than the raw stats to back up your claims. 21 innings is not a big enough sample on which to hang your hat.

Ok, I'll come up with something better: I've watched him. He hasn't thrown a splitter all year. He didn't throw one towards the end of last year. He has decided he needs a slider. SOMEthing has changed, and is wrong, and his performance has suffered hugely.

He's done as an elite closer, and they should trade him now while some GM still thinks like you do, Joe. There's a window here where we can still foist him off on someone and get value. That window will close very soon.
   28. Famous Original Joe C Posted: May 27, 2009 at 09:30 PM (#3196117)
He's done as an elite closer

See, you had me thinking until you went with this. He's done as an elite closer? Just done, that's it, no more? I guess it's not that I disagree with your assessment of his performance, but rather the certainty with which you are projecting him forward.

Nothing personal to you, Fly, but when a guy on a message board says that the guy with the 1.90 career ERA is "done" because he's given up a few extra walks and one more home run over his last 20 or so innings, and because he's not throwing his splitter so much any more, I'm going to call bull - ####. If you're concerned, I get it, but why so sure?
   29. The Mighty Quintana Posted: May 27, 2009 at 09:42 PM (#3196127)
Anyone know anything about this Cabrera guy in Pawtucket? His stats look reaaaal good. This Sox pitching staff has ridiculous depth...
   30. Nasty Nate Posted: May 27, 2009 at 09:46 PM (#3196132)
He's done as an elite closer, and they should trade him now while some GM still thinks like you do


hahahahaa

Ok, I'll come up with something better: I've watched him


Did you watch him in the game he lost to the Mets? He looked awesome and was blowing them away. Then that guy gets a flukey pop-up homer, #### happens.
   31. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 27, 2009 at 09:58 PM (#3196145)

Nothing personal to you, Fly, but when a guy on a message board says that the guy with the 1.90 career ERA is "done" because he's given up a few extra walks and one more home run over his last 20 or so innings, and because he's not throwing his splitter so much any more, I'm going to call bull - ####. If you're concerned, I get it, but why so sure?


Well, sure, my position is overstated to some degree. But I'm extremely concerned, and I'm sure that he's at least got something wrong that will affect him in the near-term because of how he's pitched this year. Is it something that a few months rest could fix? Maybe. Is it something that surgery might fix? Possibly. But I don't think it's a mechanics issue, or a luck issue. I think he has something relatively serious, physically wrong with him.

I posted this in the other thread: I'd be willing to bet that he gets less than 21 saves next season.
   32. Famous Original Joe C Posted: May 27, 2009 at 10:09 PM (#3196158)
Anyone know anything about this Cabrera guy in Pawtucket?

He's AAAA filler, as far as I know. Great stats in the minors, Ks alot of guys, but gives up too many walks (5 per 9 in 168 major league innings) and homers (31 in those same 168). He's a 5th starter or a 6th or 7th reliever, unless he's improved somehow (he's 27).

I posted this in the other thread: I'd be willing to bet that he gets less than 21 saves next season.

I will gladly take you up on that - a $10 BB-Ref sponsorship?
   33. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM (#3196179)
I will gladly take you up on that - a $10 BB-Ref sponsorship?

Sure. I say he will save 20 or fewer MLB games in the 2010 season, you say 21 or more? Deal.
   34. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 27, 2009 at 10:37 PM (#3196185)
Paplebon has definitely made significant changes in his delivery, the pitches he throws, and the frequency with which he throws them. He is certainly capable of complete domination (note the game last week where he let the tying runs on base, and then struck out the next three batters), but he is either:

1) retooling his mechanics, like Tiger Woods "ripping up his swing" several years ago, to take his elite level of play to an even higher level, in which case we're simply watching him in the midst of that retooling, or

2) there are meaningful injury concerns (either near-term or longer-term) that are forcing him to change the way he does business, even if it means he is giving up a little consistency in his velocity and location in order to increase the chances of a long career.

I've watched most of the Sox games over the past few years, and I'm pretty confident we're looking at #2, rather than #1.
   35. Famous Original Joe C Posted: May 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM (#3196194)
I will gladly take you up on that - a $10 BB-Ref sponsorship?

Sure. I say he will save 20 or fewer MLB games in the 2010 season, you say 21 or more? Deal.


Deal.
   36. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 27, 2009 at 10:46 PM (#3196197)
BTW, I hope I lose this bet.
   37. Hugh Jorgan Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM (#3196222)
BTW, I hope I lose this bet.

Does he have to save them for the Red Sox? Because right now a Penny/Paps combo for a good bat trade might be something the FO is considering. I wouldn't put it past Theo to at least explore this option.
   38. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM (#3196234)
Does he have to save them for the Red Sox?

No, all MLB saves count in the bet.
   39. Darren Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:20 PM (#3196239)
He's done as an elite closer, and they should trade him now while some GM still thinks like you do, Joe. There's a window here where we can still foist him off on someone and get value. That window will close very soon.


There's a big problem with this. The second they start shopping Papelbon, an elite closer over the past couple years, the other GMs are going to know something's wrong. There's also the whole problem of trading injured players. There's really no way they're getting a good return for Papelbon, even if trading him wasn't a huge overreaction.

Also, I disagree that he's not throwing the splitter. I've seen at least a few, which I think PitchFX is classifying as sliders for some reason. Speaking of which, here's the breakdown of the speed and frequency of his splitters and changeups, per Fangraphs:

07: Ch 6.3%, 87.0 MPH; SPL 8.2%, 87.3
08: Ch 2.8%, 86.7 MPH; SPL 2.3%, 88.5
09: Ch 6.3%, 87.1 MPH; SPL 0%, N/A

Looking at this chart, the first thing jumps out at me is that Pap doesn't throw a change. The second thing is that his splitter and his phantom Change are almost exactly the same speed. And if you look at the details on the pitch movement, you'll see that the horizontal movement of his 09 "changeup" is -8.6, almost the same as the -8.1 of his 08 splitter. The reason that it's being called a changeup is that it's vertical movement is 5.7 (much more than the 1.5 recorded on the 08 splitters).

To sum up, Pap cut down his splitters between 07 and 08. But he's thrown about the same number this year as he did last year, albeit with a lot more movement. From watching, it looks like the movement has had the effect of making the pitch ineffective. It rarely comes close to being a strike or tempting hitters.
   40. Darren Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM (#3196241)
Good lord, Papelbon? I just can't believe there's a small groundswell of support for trading Papelbon! Why don't we trade Yaz, Nomar, and Pesky while we're at it.
   41. Darren Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:26 PM (#3196249)
Oh and I'm not a betting man, but that trade is weak. If he's finished, make a bet about the number of games he'll save this year.
   42. Hugh Jorgan Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:34 PM (#3196273)
I just can't believe there's a small groundswell of support for trading Papelbon

The reality is he's chosen to go year to year to max his value when he could've signed like Pedroia and Lester. There is no way the Sox will pay top dollar for his services when he hits the open market, so maybe getting something in return now is the better option.
   43. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:38 PM (#3196283)
Why don't we trade Yaz, Nomar, and Pesky while we're at it.

Well, we did trade Nomar and Pesky.
   44. Darren Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:41 PM (#3196292)
Oh shut up you!
   45. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:43 PM (#3196297)
Darren = Mr. Peabody?
   46. Hugh Jorgan Posted: May 27, 2009 at 11:53 PM (#3196312)
Thank you Fly, I didn't really want to point out the obvious. And I'm pretty sure that Nomar trade worked out for us o.k....
   47. OCD SS Posted: May 28, 2009 at 12:08 AM (#3196342)
The Sox have won 2 World Series titles with Pesky as mascot. I think he could be included in a package back to Detroit to get back Miggy Cabrera. Detroit should do this since they obviously aren't going anywhere with their current mascott; Bonderman is still a bit young for a mascot and could use some seasoning in that regard.
   48. Darren Posted: June 27, 2009 at 04:25 PM (#3235160)
I'm amazed at how little Papelbon's wildness has hurt the Sox this year. One blown game and otherwise he seems to save his badness for games where he has big leads or he somehow minimizes the damage. Lucky ducks we are.
   49. villageidiom Posted: June 28, 2009 at 12:08 PM (#3235684)
He used to save his badness for tie games. So, yeah, we're lucky.
   50. Chip Posted: June 28, 2009 at 12:33 PM (#3235686)
He's saving his badness for the playoffs now. That's my fear. One of those multi-baserunner innings is going to get very, very ugly at the worst possible time.
   51. John DiFool2 Posted: June 28, 2009 at 12:59 PM (#3235692)
From watching, it looks like the movement has had the effect of making the pitch ineffective.


That makes no sense-if it had more movement it would tempt more hitters to swing at it, now fewer. Then again I still don't 100% understand what exactly pitchFX means by "movement." The splitters I've seen have looked flat, not diving off the table like they did a couple of years ago.
   52. Famous Original Joe C Posted: August 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM (#3293268)
23/3 K/BB over his last 16+ innings. Just saying.
   53. Darren Posted: September 02, 2009 at 03:36 AM (#3311681)
Hey, let's trade Papelbon. He's really dragging the team down.
   54. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 02, 2009 at 04:06 AM (#3311699)
I just reckon Paps thought that "whole Dice-K who gives a crap how many walks you give up as long as you can pitch out of a jam thing" looked really fun so he'd have a go at it this year.

Maybe Paps was angry he wasn't getting more playing time. Kind of thinking, hey I only get out here like 10 minutes 3 nights a week, this is kind of boring, I'll see if I can extend my time to 20 minutes a night.

Maybe he thought he could get a pay rise by negotiating a per minute on the hill pay scale.

However, and no I didn't read any of the posts above, he did get us out of Oki's mess tonight as I'm sure someone pointed out already.
   55. Darnell McDonald had a farm Posted: September 02, 2009 at 04:26 AM (#3311707)
That may be his first ever regular season two inning save. I'll leave it to the sober to verify
   56. jwb Posted: September 02, 2009 at 05:06 AM (#3311726)
True, mopar. Two two inning blown saves, though:
Date                  Score Inn        IP
Aug 20 2006 BOS   NYY L
,5-8 8-9  BS(62.0 
Jul  9 2006 BOS 
CHW L,5-6 9-10 BS(32.0 
   57. Joel W Posted: September 02, 2009 at 03:40 PM (#3312036)
I'm still not over his splits. 492 OPSa w/ runners in scoring position, 568 OPSa w/ runners on, 748 OPSa with the bases empty, and the differences seem mainly due to strikeouts.
   58. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 02, 2009 at 04:03 PM (#3312057)
One 2 inning save in the post-season (Game Seven, 2007 ALCS).
   59. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 17, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3324818)
Papelbon since the calendar turned to July: 29 IP, 38/7 K/BB, 1 HR. I'll take that.
   60. Joel W Posted: September 17, 2009 at 04:31 PM (#3324852)
I was really enjoying that this thread was stuck on 58 posts. Now that that is gone, I'll add: yes, he's been great and looks like the old Paps. He's been the top reliever in baseball by WPA this year. I wonder what percentage of the Red Sox difference in 3rd order wins and 1st order wins is related to Papelbon's ability to be better in jams than without runners on.
   61. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 17, 2009 at 04:50 PM (#3324890)
I was really enjoying that this thread was stuck on 58 posts.

Oh! Had I noticed I wouldn't have posted...
   62. Famous Original Joe C Posted: July 20, 2010 at 02:28 PM (#3594033)
I will gladly take you up on that - a $10 BB-Ref sponsorship?

Sure. I say he will save 20 or fewer MLB games in the 2010 season, you say 21 or more? Deal.

Deal.


Anyone have any suggestions for who Fly should sponsor?
   63. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: July 20, 2010 at 02:42 PM (#3594047)
I'll add: yes, he's been great and looks like the old Paps.

And his WHIP is now .001 better than Stephen Strasburg's! I smell a pennant!
   64. Famous Original Joe C Posted: July 20, 2010 at 02:55 PM (#3594056)
And his WHIP is now .001 better than Stephen Strasburg's! I smell a pennant!

Go away, or quit trolling.
   65. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 20, 2010 at 03:13 PM (#3594073)
Anyone have any suggestions for who Fly should sponsor?


Does Sean allow sponsoring minor league player? This is the obvious choice.

As an alternative on his handle, here is a $10 Manny with a steroid problem.
   66. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: July 20, 2010 at 03:24 PM (#3594085)
Go away, or quit trolling.

Not trolling, Mr. Beaneater, just strolling.
   67. Famous Original Joe C Posted: July 20, 2010 at 03:32 PM (#3594089)
Not trolling, Mr. Beaneater, just strolling.

Good thing you're a Celtics fan...
   68. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: July 20, 2010 at 04:08 PM (#3594124)
...and my business partner's a hardcore Irish Catholic.
   69. Famous Original Joe C Posted: July 20, 2010 at 09:05 PM (#3594457)
...and my business partner's a hardcore Irish Catholic.

Okay, I missed that one. I like Irish Catholics because I'm from Boston?

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Jose, I like your suuggestions - Fly, you can choose from the two names in post 65.
   70. Dan Posted: July 27, 2010 at 05:31 AM (#3600246)
Holy ####, I think they actually fixed Jonathan Papelbon. Tonight he was getting on top of the fastball, and hitting 95-96 (though the gun seemed ~1 MPH hot ). But the splitter was actually diving, and not just running horizontally on a plane like those shitty ones he was throwing last month. The splits he threw to Erick Aybar were absolutely filthy, and at 90-91 MPH too.

It was almost like watching Papelbon from 2007, though his fastball command is still a bit off.
   71. Pingu Posted: July 27, 2010 at 02:59 PM (#3600464)
Agree. That was impressive. I wonder if the "Papelbon throws nothing but fastballs" scouting report played into the Angels looking like complete fools on multiple occasions.

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