Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Sox Therapy > Discussion
Sox Therapy
— Where Thinking Red Sox Fans Obsess about the Sox

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Darren Posted: May 25, 2007 at 09:17 PM (#2378711)
Apparently I'm the only one fascinated with old non-prospects mashing in the low minors.
   2. Raskolnikov Posted: May 25, 2007 at 09:33 PM (#2378728)
Hey, I track Corey Coles' progress day to day for the Mets farm. Yes, it's pathetic but you're not the only one fascinated by potential Ken Phelps All Stars.
   3. philly Posted: May 25, 2007 at 10:03 PM (#2378746)
I was just confused. Are you hoping that Bell turns into a 24 yr old AA DH hitting 250/358/313 next year?
   4. Darren Posted: May 26, 2007 at 03:03 AM (#2379268)
No. I want him to be an INJURED 25 yr old AA DH hitting 250/358/313 next year.
   5. Darren Posted: May 26, 2007 at 04:33 AM (#2379421)
Lars Anderson with a HR tonight, now up to 317/394/491 for Greenville (with too many K's). Lowrie 2/3 with a BB. Bell, ho hum, 2-3 with his 14th HR and a 2B. Ellsbury 2/5 at AAA, where Gabbard continued his HR ways, giving up 2 more. Travis Hughes lowered his ERA to 0.32.
   6. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: May 26, 2007 at 02:41 PM (#2379571)
How long until Hughes is in Boston and who is cut?
   7. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: May 26, 2007 at 02:58 PM (#2379575)
I think it's until there's another couple injuries. The six with MLB contracts won't budge - well, maybe Romero, but I doubt it - and of the three minor leaguers, Snyder and Lopez have been impressive, and Delcarmen deserves a shot too. Timlin's rehabbing, so the six contract guys will be up together soon.

I'd like to see Breslow or Hughes get a shot, but they're stuck in line, and the only way the line's gonna move is with injuries.
   8. chris p Posted: May 26, 2007 at 03:00 PM (#2379576)
and the only way the line's gonna move is with injuries.

so, what you're saying is that somebody has to put a hit on pineiro and romero?
   9. Darren Posted: May 26, 2007 at 03:53 PM (#2379591)
There is also the problem that, IIRC, Snyder is out of options so that he can't be sent down either. Breslow, if called up, can't be sent down, which is probably why Manny D got the call ahead of him.

When I was doing this week's mL thread, I thought about making it about the group of interesting to good relievers the Sox have at AAA. Breslow's right at the front of that bunch--he's done nothing but dominate the minors the past few years, and has a career MLB ERA of 2.86. Hughes has had excellent K and HR numbers in AAA, but just walks a few too many, which he may have moved past this yaer. Delcarmen seems ready for another shot. I think any of these guys would be worthy candidates to take over for Romero or Pineiro at some point.

Why didn't Delcarmen get into the game last night. Seemed like a good opportunity for him before being shipped out.
   10. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: May 26, 2007 at 05:49 PM (#2379663)
MCA,
Why do you think the Red Sox will be hesitant to cut a contract? The Red Sox need another strikeout pitcher in the bullpen. If they cut Piniero or Romero, they have a bunch of pitchers they can run through to find a replacement.

What is Hughes option status?
   11. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:29 PM (#2379682)
Why do you think the Red Sox will be hesitant to cut a contract?
Under Theo and Tito, Sox don't cut contracts. They have a long history of staying with their guys in season. Maybe Farrell can convince them to take another route, but I'm skeptical.

The Sox, generally, don't make an investment and then give up on it. They trust, for better of for worse, that they knew what they were doing when they signed the guy. I said that Romero might be a special case, because he's on a pretty cheap contract, but I'd be shocked if they cut Pineiro.
   12. 1k5v3L Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:33 PM (#2379686)
Whatever happened to the original Jeff Natale?

Under Theo and Tito, Sox don't cut contracts.


They just R-enter-rear people out of town
   13. Darren Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:36 PM (#2379691)
The Sox DFA'ed both Bellhorn and Embree in season, and in both cases, it wasn't exactly a slam dunk that they were finished. That said, I too would be surprised if they cut Pineiro. They could probably deal him to the NL for something if they ate most of his salary. They'd also get something for "I can still get lefties out" Romero.
   14. 1k5v3L Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:37 PM (#2379692)
How long until Hughes is in Boston


THE Travis Hughes?
   15. Darren Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:38 PM (#2379693)
Levski,

I know this is asking a lot, but try to have a point when posting stuff here.
   16. 1k5v3L Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:42 PM (#2379694)
Sorry, Darren. Snarkiness is often lost in translation.

My point... yes, you can say the Red Sox don't cut contracts... until they eat a chunk of someone's contract to send him out of town, like they did with Renteria. It's a convoluted way to cutting a contract... except you don't eat as much of his salary. In the case of Romero and Pineiro, they can probably DFA them and some team will claim them off waivers... and they might even get something for them in trades... but it's wrong to say the Sox never cut contracts.

Furthermore, I'm just shocked that Travis Hughes is getting so much love here. This is the same Travis Hughes that has failed to stick in the majors for the last several years, despite putting up decent numbers in the minors. He has no prayer in the AL east. None.
   17. Darren Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:53 PM (#2379700)
See, that's a lot more informative than "the Travis Hughes?" I don't think Hughes is getting so much love here. People are saying that, after putting up a 0.32 ERA this year, he deserves a shot at the back of the bullpen. A shot. At a mop-up role. I can't argue with your characterization of his pedigree, though.

As you can see above, I agree with you that the Red Sox do cut contracts, and in fact do so in the middle of the season. I don't think anyone would pick up Pineiro's whole contract off waivers. They'd wait to see if they could get him for the minimum.
   18. philly Posted: May 26, 2007 at 06:55 PM (#2379701)
I think MCA is overstating the "they don't eat contracts" thing.

Are Pineiro/Romero (or whomever) much different than David Riske?

He was a guaranteed contract releiver who never really fit coming in the odd undercard of the Marte-Crisp deal. He didn't do much with the Sox and they dumped him on June 15 for the now useful Javier Lopez.

I think there's a good chance they'll end up doing a Riske style trade for a fringy minor leaguer before too long.
   19. 1k5v3L Posted: May 26, 2007 at 07:02 PM (#2379708)
I will try harder, Darren; after all, I always rent from Avis...

Yes, Pineiro's contract is rather big... but the Sox can always trade him to Reds for Adam Dunn.

Hughes's ERA of .32 is deceptive, as he has 3 unearned runs to his credit as well. Last year in AAA, his ERA was 2.32, but he also had 11 unearned runs to go with his 19 earned runs.

I don't think he'll be any better than Pineiro, for example, and Pineiro's got the big contact, so he'll stick around in the mop-up role unless he fools with Manny's wife Julianna in the pen.
   20. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: May 27, 2007 at 05:00 PM (#2380409)
I want to see if Hughes can K more batters than he walks and average close to a K/IP. It would be nice to have a guy who can come in before the 7th if the team needs to get out of a jam.
   21. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: May 27, 2007 at 05:05 PM (#2380415)
Yes, Pineiro's contract is rather big... but the Sox can always trade him to Reds for Adam Dunn.

Badass
   22. Darren Posted: May 28, 2007 at 01:01 AM (#2380919)
Lowrie just keeps hitting. He's up to .283/.422/.442 with a 33/25 BB/K ratio.
   23. JB H Posted: May 28, 2007 at 03:15 AM (#2380976)
I was just gonna post about Lowrie. What do people think about him? Is his defense an asset at 2b?

I think he's about tied with Brandon Moss for the #5 prospect in the system.
   24. MM1f Posted: May 28, 2007 at 04:00 AM (#2380989)
Nicholls State is D-I by the way
   25. Darren Posted: May 28, 2007 at 11:23 AM (#2381123)
Aw crap, why did I think it was D-III? Oops.
   26. Darren Posted: May 28, 2007 at 11:53 AM (#2381137)
Buchholz on NESN at 1 PM today.
   27. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: May 28, 2007 at 09:16 PM (#2381489)
Got to see an inning of Buchholz. That curveball is dirty. I can see why the Sox think he needs a touch more fastball command - he was missing a bunch today, though 7 BB coming into the game suggests that's atypical, and it doesn't seem to have a ton of movement, so he'll need to locate it well. But, really, he's probably a solid MLB pitcher right now.

Strikeouts by game for Buchholz: 2, 8, 8, 9, 8, 11, 7, 8, 8
   28. Darren Posted: May 28, 2007 at 09:20 PM (#2381492)
Those first two games are kind of outliers. They both came after long layoffs due to rainouts.
   29. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: May 30, 2007 at 03:33 AM (#2384076)
-Bowden walked four in his start, still struggling a bit to adjust to AA.

-Lester had an excellent start (5,4,0,2,6), 80 pitches. With the little forearm tweak cleared up, he should be threatening for a job by mid-June.

-Travis Hughes allowed two homers in a third of an inning, taking a little of the bloom off that 20 game rose.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Francis
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Syndicate

Page rendered in 0.2076 seconds
56 querie(s) executed