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— Our Blogs and Nothing But Our Blogs Hall of Merit: Redistribution of Electees by Year?I was thinking, maybe the original plan we came up with based on team years wasn’t the best way to go. What if we based the electees on the number of players born in each year, projected out 45 years (the average age of our first 16 electees at the time of election). Bear with me here while I explain this. We’d start our 213 Hall of Famers through 2001 number. We’d the see how many players were born during or before 1956 (11713, plus 306 players we don’t have birthdates on). Would there be anything else to adjust for? Such as allowing slots for 25 Negro Leaguers. Not as a quota, just factoring in that they aren’t in our pool of birthdates). If we make the Negro League adjustment (we can worry about which years get electees later), we’d basically have one HoMer for every 63.93 major league players born. I think a great majority of all of the players we don’t have birthdates on played in the 19th Century, so I would add them to the ‘backlog’. Our 6th HoMer should be around the same time as the 349th player born. Counting the 306 + 43 we know we have would put our first HoMer born in 1845 or the 1890 election. Our 20th HoMer, the last one we elected, would be the 823rd player born (not counting the 306 w/out birthdays, the 1129th including them), which was in 1864, which works out to our 1909 election. Which would mean we are just two ahead (although somewhat misproportioned). We’ve got a museum to run, so I wouldn’t hold off an election, but we’d only go one per year until we get back on schedule, which won’t be long. Alternatively, we could just add two HoMers (in recognition of the real Hall’s lack of Negro Leaguers and pre-1880s players) and go with 215. I’d probably support that, but I could be talked out of it too. It’s not too late to change this, and I think it’s much better theoretically than our current system. There is no bias involved here, just a lightbulb that went off, one that should have gone off a year ago. I should be able to post the schedule if we go down this path later today (I’m still working on it, since I have to do a lot of it by hand). What do you guys think? JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: August 21, 2003 at 03:20 PM | 36 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1907 Results - Sliding Billy ElectedIn his first year of eligibility, Billy Hamilton was easily elected to the Hall of Merit, beating Ezra Sutton 877-674. Sutton was the runner-up for the second year in a row. Joe Start jumped over Bid McPhee and Pud Galvin to finish 3rd. Galvin also fell behind McPhee to finish 5th. Cal McVey and Harry Stovey remained 6th and 7th, Charlie Bennett moved ahead of Sam Thompson to finish 8th, Hugh Duffy finished 9th in his first year of eligibility and Thompson rounded out the top 10. Cupid Childs was the only other newcomer with significant support, finishing 11th. RK LY Player Pts Ballots 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1 n/a Billy Hamilton 877 41.0 23 8 5 3 2 2 2 Ezra Sutton 674 38.3 7 11 6 2 2 4 2 2 1 1.3 3 5 Joe Start 631 37.3 5 3 9 5 3 4 4 2 1 1.3 4 4 Bid McPhee 608 41.0 2 5 3 2 9 4 6 1 2 1 1 2 3 5 3 Pud Galvin 599 38.0 2 2 5 11 5 4 1 3 1 1 2 1 6 6 Cal McVey 556 38.0 5 4 8 5 4 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 2 7 7 Harry Stovey 540 39.0 4 2 1 3 7 5 3 6 3 2 1 1 1 8 9 Charlie Bennett 468 35.0 1 1 2 1 4 1 9 3 4 3 1 3 1 1 9 n/a Hugh Duffy 437 37.0 1 1 2 3 3 7 4 3 5 2 3 1 2 10 8 Sam Thompson 425 36.0 1 1 1 2 1 4 4 2 8 2 2 3 3 2 11 n/a Cupid Childs 324 30.0 1 2 1 2 6 3 2 2 5 3 3 12 10 Pete Browning 265 25.5 1 3 1 4 6 6 4 0.5 13 11 Mike Tiernan 258 27.0 1 2 1 4 2 4 6 5 2 14 13 Lip Pike 221 20.0 1 1 1 1 2 4 2 1 2 1 3 1 15 12 Bob Caruthers 206 18.0 1 3 1 1 2 3 1 2 4 16 16 Mike Griffin 154 17.0 1 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 17 15 Ed Williamson 152 17.5 1 2 7 3 4 0.5 18 14 Jim McCormick 135 13.0 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 19 18 Dickey Pearce 118 12.0 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 20 17 Mickey Welch 86 9.0 1 2 2 1 1 2 21 21 Jim Whitney 52 5.0 1 1 3 22 25 Charley Jones 47 5.0 1 2 1 1 23 35 Harry Wright 45 4.0 1 1 1 1 24 20 Tony Mullane 39 5.0 1 1 1 2 25 24 Tip O'Neill 35 3.0 2 1 26 19 Fred Dunlap* 32 4.0 1 1 2 27 23 Bud Fowler 32 3.0 1 1 1 28 27 Jack Clements 24 3.0 1 1 1 29 22 Billy Nash* 21 2.5 1 1 0.5 30 28 Dave Foutz 21 2.0 1 1 31 26 Tom York* 13 2.0 1 1 32 n/a Elmer Smith+ 13 1.5 1 0.5 33 32 Tommy Bond 13 1.0 1 34T 36 Bill Hutchison 10 1.0 1 34T n/a Nig Cuppy 10 1.0 1 36 33 Levi Meyerle 9 1.0 1 37 29T Jack Stivetts 7 1.0 1 38 31 Denny Lyons 2 0.3 0.3 *won tie-breaker (head-to-head on individual ballots) +finished 2nd in tie-breaker (head-to-head on individual ballots) Dropped Out: Ed McKean (29T), Jim Creighton (34), Bill Joyce (37T),George Stovey (37T), Bobby Mathews (39T), Dave Orr (39T), Gus Weyhing (39T). JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: August 18, 2003 at 08:09 PM | 10 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1908 Ballot DiscussionHughie Jennings is the only strong candidate among the newcomers this year. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: August 18, 2003 at 07:06 PM | 177 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1907 BallotLet’s get started, sorry it’s late . . . JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: August 11, 2003 at 04:09 PM | 76 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1906 Results - Spalding ElectedAl Spalding, the greatest pitcher of the 1870s, has been elected to the Hall of Merit in the closest voting to date. He defeated Ezra Sutton, 758-749.5. The voting system came into play here. If the balloting had been 15-14-13 . . . 3-2-1; Sutton would have won. If we didn’t give bonus points for ‘elect him’ votes, it would have been decided by 1/2 point (wow!); if we didn’t penalize not being on the ballot at all, he would have won. If it had been a 2 electee year, Sutton would obviously have been elected, that’s not noteworthy—but in a quirk, he also would have finished first, because he had 9 second place votes more than Spalding, and this was the first year without bonus points for a 2nd place vote. Don’t take this as a complaint, I’m just pointing it out, and I think the system worked well. Sutton had two more people that voted him ‘in’, and 1 less that left him off the ballot completely, he deserves an edge for that. Both saw big surges in their support this week, as they leapfrogged Pud Galvin and Bid McPhee, making this election a bit of an ‘upset’. Galvin edged McPhee 681-676 for 3rd place. Joe Start finished 5th. Cal McVey jumped over Harry Stovey into 6th place. Sam Thompson, Charlie Bennett and Pete Browning rounded out the top 10. No one dropped out from 1905, and nine new players received a vote that didn’t last year, but only one was a new eligible (Gus Weyhing picked up one 15th place vote). RK LY Player Pts Ballots 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1 5 Al Spalding 758 42.0 14 3 7 3 5 2 1 4 2 1 2 6 Ezra Sutton 749.5 41.0 12 12 2 3 3 1 1 4 2 0.5 0.5 3 3 Pud Galvin 681 42.0 2 6 9 8 5 4 2 1 1 1 2 1 4 4 Bid McPhee 676 42.0 5 3 4 3 8 4 4 6 2 1 1 1 5 7 Joe Start 660.5 41.0 4 6 4 8 3 5 5 1 2 2.5 0.5 6 9 Cal McVey 613 39.0 3 4 8 4 5 4 1 2 3 1 2 1 1 7 8 Harry Stovey 592 41.0 1 5 3 8 2 6 4 4 4 2 2 8 10 Sam Thompson 510 40.0 1 2 2 4 2 4 5 4 3 3 5 3 1 1 9 11 Charlie Bennett 502 36.0 1 1 2 3 3 5 6 7 1 5 1 1 10 12 Pete Browning 380 34.0 2 1 2 2 2 5 3 7 6 1 1 2 11 13 Mike Tiernan 365 36.0 1 2 1 1 2 4 3 4 3 8 5 2 12 14 Bob Caruthers 314 28.0 2 2 1 2 2 3 1 3 3 1 7 1 13 15 Lip Pike 271 23.5 1 1 1 4 2 4 3 1 3 2 1.5 14 17 Jim McCormick 198 21.0 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 4 4 4 15 18 Ed Williamson 191 20.5 1 6 5 1 3 1 3.5 16 16 Mike Griffin 185 19.0 1 1 2 3 4 4 3 1 17 19 Mickey Welch 155 17.0 1 1 2 2 1 3 4 3 18 20 Dickey Pearce 111 11.0 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 19 23 Fred Dunlap 90 10.0 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 20 21 Tony Mullane 85 10.0 1 2 1 3 3 21 24 Jim Whitney 76 7.0 1 1 2 2 1 22 27 Billy Nash 45 5.0 1 2 1 1 23 22 Bud Fowler 44 4.0 2 1 1 24 25 Tip O'Neill 43 3.5 2 1 0.5 25 28 Charley Jones 41 4.5 1 1 1 1 0.5 26 -- Tom York* 32 5.0 1 4 27 26 Jack Clements 32 3.0 1 1 1 28 31 Dave Foutz 23 2.0 1 1 29T -- Ed McKean 17 2.0 1 1 29T -- Jack Stivetts 17 2.0 1 1 31 30 Denny Lyons 16 2.0 1 1 32 -- Tommy Bond* 12 2.0 2 33 33 Levi Meyerle 12 1.0 1 34 -- Jim Creighton 11 1.0 1 35 -- Harry Wright 9 1.0 1 36 32 Bill Hutchison 8 1.0 1 37T 29 Bill Joyce 7 1.0 1 37T -- George Stovey 7 1.0 1 39T 34 Dave Orr 6 1.0 1 39T -- Bobby Mathews 6 1.0 1 39T n/a Gus Weyhing 6 1.0 1 *won tie-breaker (head-to-head on individual ballots) Dropped Out: None. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: August 04, 2003 at 07:58 PM | 7 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1907 Ballot DiscussionLet’s start the 1907 discussion. 1906 precincts will be closing shortly, I’m going to start to finish adding up the votes, and then we’ll close the polls. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: August 04, 2003 at 03:59 PM | 184 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1906 BallotThis promises to be our closest election yet, with fives candidates having a realistic shot at being the year’s only electee. This is a good week to go back an re-examine things if you haven’t done that in awhile. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: July 28, 2003 at 04:09 PM | 71 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: Length of Early MLB Seasons: Games ScheduledThis is a nifty little page . . . gives a 5 and 15 year running average of games scheduled, so you can get an idea for adjusting (if you are so inclined) career numbers. It’s just a guide though, you’re not going to give the proper weight to each year, but it’s a reasonable way to make an eyeball career value judgement, before digging further. When reading the chart, the 5 or 15 year period is the one STARTING with the year listed. So the 5 year listing for 1871 is 1871-76, the 15-year is 1871-85, etc. . . . thanks to Paul Wendt for creating this. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: July 22, 2003 at 05:29 PM | 0 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1906 Ballot DiscussionNot much in the way of new eligibles this year, but for the first time, just one player will be on the podium this time around . . . JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: July 21, 2003 at 06:25 PM | 175 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1905 Results - Radbourn and Richardson ElectedCharlie Radbourn and Hardy Richardson have been elected to the Hall of Merit. Radbourn finished first with 706 points and was named on all but one ballot. He is our second posthumous inductee (King Kelly was the first), Old Hoss passed on in February 1897, he was just 42. Richardson (who was the only player named on all 41 ballots) finished second with 660 points, beating Pud Galvin by 26 points. Richardson’s margin over Galvin was the 2nd closest to date, George Wright beat Jack Glasscock by 21 points in 1901 (Glasscock was elected in 1904). In 1906 just one new player will be elected and the battle will be tighter than ever. Newcomer Bid McPhee finished 4th, four points behind Galvin, and Al Spalding and Ezra Sutton were tied for 5th, just four points behind McPhee. Both jumped over Joe Start, who finished 7th, but just 29 points behind Galvin. Harry Stovey held his spot among the returnees and finished 8th with 533 points. Cal McVey jumped over Sam Thompson and Charlie Bennett to finish 9th with 486 points. Thompson rounded out the top 10 with 436 points. RK LY Player Pts Ballots 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1 3 C.Radbourn 706 40.0 9 5 4 2 4 1 7 3 2 1 1 1 2 4 H.Richardson 660 41.0 3 2 5 6 8 7 2 3 1 1 3 3 5 P.Galvin 634 39.0 4 3 5 8 5 2 2 2 3 1 2 1 1 4 n/a B.McPhee 630 39.0 5 3 3 6 3 2 6 3 2 2 2 2 5 7 A.Spalding* 626 37.0 7 6 5 3 1 1 1 1 1 4 4 2 1 6 8 E.Sutton 626 36.5 4 10 4 3 1 2 2 3 1 2 2 2.5 7 6 J.Start 605 36.5 6 3 2 6 2 5 2 4 3 1 1 1 0.5 8 9 H.Stovey 533 40.0 3 4 3 4 2 4 6 5 2 3 2 2 9 12 C.McVey 486 33.0 1 3 4 1 7 4 1 3 2 1 2 1 3 10 10 S.Thompson 436 35.5 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 2 4 4 3 4 3 4 0.5 11 11 C.Bennett 423 33.0 1 1 1 1 5 5 2 8 4 3 1 1 12 13 P.Browning 301 30.0 3 3 1 1 6 4 7 4 1 13 n/a M.Tiernan 279 29.5 1 2 3 2 3 2 2 3 1 10.5 14 14 B.Caruthers 223 19.0 1 3 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 15 16 L.Pike 189 19.0 2 1 1 1 4 2 2 2 4 16 15 M.Griffin 170 20.0 1 1 1 3 2 3 6 3 17 19 J.McCormick 136 15.0 1 2 3 1 2 1 5 18 17 E.Williamson 122 15.0 1 2 4 2 3 3 19 18 M.Welch 96 11.0 2 1 1 2 3 2 20 20 D.Pearce 69 7.0 1 1 1 2 1 1 21 21 T.Mullane 55 6.0 1 2 1 1 1 22 n/a B.Fowler 52 4.0 1 1 1 1 23 22 F.Dunlap^ 51 7.0 1 2 2 2 24 23 J.Whitney 51 5.0 1 1 1 2 25 25 T.O'Neill 40 3.0 1 1 1 26 24 J.Clements 27 3.0 1 2 27 26 B.Nash 18 2.0 1 1 28 31 C.Jones 16 2.0 2 29 27 B.Joyce 14 1.0 1 30 -- D.Lyons 13 2.0 1 1 31 28 D.Foutz 12 1.0 1 32 30 B.Hutchison 10 1.0 1 33 29 L.Meyerle 8 1.0 1 34 32 D.Orr 6 1.0 1 Dropped Out: none. *won 2nd tie-breaker (# of ballots named on, 37-36.5). First tie-breaker was 20-20 (head-to-head on individual ballots) ^won tie-breaker, 7-5 (head-to-head on individual ballots) JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: July 21, 2003 at 06:21 PM | 9 comment(s)
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