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— Our Blogs and Nothing But Our Blogs Hall of Merit: 1901 election discussionI don’t have time to list the newly eligible players (I’m in Pittsburgh for a training class this week), but I figured I can start the thread at least. If someone wants to list the newbies with links to their BR pages that would be great. I should still be able to check in around lunch time and after the Pirate games at night. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: May 12, 2003 at 04:59 PM | 132 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1900 Results - John Clarkson and John Ward electedJohn Clarkson and John Ward have been elected to the Hall of Merit in balloting for the 1900 election. Clarkson was easily elected, receiving 19 of 35 first place votes and 756 points. Ward finished with 617 points, edging Tim Keefe (582) and George Wright (580). Wright was actually named first or second on 11 ballots, Ward 10, but Ward had deeper support, being named no lower than 10th on every ballot. Wright was left off of 1.5 ballots completely. Pud Galvin made the biggest jump, from 16th to 13th. He received 19% of the potential points in 1899, 34% this year. Harry Stovey and Tip O’Neill experienced the biggest drops. Stovey fell from 5th to 9th, he lost 38 points in the voting despite 4 more people casting votes. O’Neill has fallen from 14th to 18th to 23rd. He was named 13 ballots in 1898, 7 in 1899 and just 4 in 1900. 30 of 31 voters from 1899 returned for 1900, and we added 5 new voters. The Boston Beaneaters and Chicago Orphans will play the Hall of Merit Game in 1900. In 1900, these are the only two original teams remaining from the NL’s inaugural season of 1876. Boston is led by 3B Jimmy Collins, CF Billy Hamilton, pitchers Bill Dinneen, Vic Willis and Kid Nichols. Chicago’s stars include 2B Cupid Childs, OF Jimmy Ryan and pitchers Ned Garvin and Clark Griffith. RK LY Player Pts Ballots 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1 n/a J.Clarkson 756 35.0 19 5 4 3 3 1 2 n/a J.Ward 617 35.0 3 7 6 5 3 1 3 3 3 1 3 4 T.Keefe 582 35.0 1 5 6 7 3 5 2 1 4 1 4 3 G.Wright 580 33.5 4 7 2 4 6 3 2 1 2 1 1.5 5 6 C.Radbourn 484 32.0 3 1 3 2 6 4 2 4 1 3 2 1 6 7 H.Richardson 452 33.0 2 3 1 1 3 7 4 3 4 1 2 2 7 8 E.Sutton 441 31.0 1 2 4 3 2 5 1 3 1 3 1 1 2 2 8 9 A.Spalding 403 30.0 2 2 1 2 3 3 1 3 4 1 3 1 2 2 9 5 H.Stovey 382 30.0 1 3 1 3 6 3 2 2 3 1 5 10 10 J.Start 378 28.0 2 1 3 2 2 3 4 3 1 3 1 3 11 12 C.Bennett 287 26.0 1 1 1 2 2 3 2 4 1 5 2 2 12 11 B.Caruthers* 284 23.0 1 1 2 1 2 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 13 16 P.Galvin 284 26.0 2 3 3 2 2 6 2 4 1 1 14 13 P.Browning 256 26.0 2 1 1 1 3 5 3 6 3 1 15 15 C.McVey 193 17.0 2 2 1 1 3 2 1 2 3 16 14 E.Williamson 182 21.0 1 1 2 1 1 3 3 5 4 17 17 L.Pike 96 11.0 1 1 1 2 4 1 1 18 n/a T.Mullane 83 9.0 1 1 2 1 3 1 19 20 M.Welch 79 10.0 1 2 1 2 4 20 19 F.Dunlap 49 6.0 1 3 1 1 21 21 J.McCormick 46 5.0 1 1 2 1 22 22 D.Pearce 45 5.0 1 2 2 23 18 T.O'Neill 41 4.0 1 1 1 1 24 23 C.Jones 35 5.0 1 3 1 25 24 J.Whitney 24 2.0 1 1 26T 25 T.York 9 1.0 1 26T -- H.Wright 9 1.0 1 28 27 B.Mathews 7 1.0 1 29T -- L.Meyerle 6 1.0 1 29T -- J.Creighton 6 1.0 1 29T 29 D.Orr 6 1.0 1 32 -- C.Welch 3 0.5 0.5 * wins tiebreaker, named higher than Galvin on more individual ballots. Dropped out: Henry Larkin (26), Tommy Bond (28)
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Posted: May 11, 2003 at 11:47 PM | 16 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1900 BallotAfter an excellent week of discussion, let the balloting for 1900 begin . . . JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: May 05, 2003 at 01:23 AM | 105 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: PitchersOn this thread, I’ll put the adjusted W-L records for each pitcher who has received a vote, or is likely to in 1900. I’ll describe the methods as well, although I might not get to this until later, see the 1900 newbies thread for an explanation until I can put it here. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: April 30, 2003 at 11:34 PM | 67 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: New Eligibles for 1900The 20th Century is almost upon us (that starts in 1901). William McKinley will be facing off with Williams Jenning Bryan in the Presidential Election. Some other facts about our nation this year: - 76 million people Oh yeah, we’ll be electing 2 new members to the Hall of Merit. The top newcomers: Elton Chamberlain JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: April 28, 2003 at 10:53 PM | 122 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1899 Results - Jim O’Rourke and King Kelly Elected to the Hall of MeritJim O’Rourke and King Kelly have been elected by an overwhelming majority to the Hall of Merit. O’Rourke, 48, will be at the ceremony, Kelly died in 1894 and will be honored posthumously. Buck Freeman, Dan McGann, Gus Weyhing, Bill Dinneen and the Washington Senators will face John McGraw, Wilbert Robinson, Jimmy Sheckard, Joe McGinnity and the Baltimore Orioles in the Hall of Merit game this year. Tim Keefe, who finished 4th, was the only player besides the electees to be named on all 31 ballots. Twelve players received at least one first or second place ballot, but Wright and the electees were the only ones to receive more than 3 such votes. RK LY Player Pts Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1. -- J.O'Rourke 699 31 21 4 3 2 1 2. -- K.Kelly 625 31 4 12 5 7 1 2 3. 6 G.Wright 505 30 1 6 5 2 2 8 2 1 2 1 4. -- T.Keefe 480 31 2 6 4 6 3 3 2 2 1 2 5. -- H.Stovey 410 30 2 1 3 3 5 3 3 2 1 1 2 2 2 6. 5 C.Radbourn 401 29 2 1 3 2 2 1 1 5 3 2 4 2 1 7. 8 H.Richardson 378 29 1 5 1 2 1 4 6 4 1 1 2 1 8. 7 E.Sutton 370 27 1 3 2 6 4 2 2 1 2 2 2 9. 9 A.Spalding 307 23 1 1 3 2 2 2 3 1 3 2 1 1 1 10. 11 J.Start 286 24 1 2 2 1 2 5 2 4 2 1 1 1 11. -- B.Caruthers 279 23 1 1 2 3 2 2 1 4 4 1 1 1 12. -- C.Bennett 272 25 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 5 2 1 3 2 4 13. -- P.Browning 271 25 2 1 2 3 1 5 3 2 2 2 2 14. 10 E.Williamson 250 25 3 1 3 3 3 6 3 3 15. 13 C.McVey 163 15.5 1 1 3 1 2 1 3 1 2.5 16. 12 P.Galvin 141 13 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 17. 15 L.Pike 91 11 1 3 1 6 18. 14 T.O'Neill 69 7 1 1 1 2 2 19. 18 F.Dunlap* 59 7 1 1 4 1 20. 17 M.Welch 59 7 1 1 1 1 3 21. 19 J.McCormick 41 5 1 1 1 2 22. 31 D.Pearce 32 3 1 1 1 23. 16 C.Jones 30 4 1 3 24. 22 J.Whitney 24 2 1 1 25. 23 T.York 20 3 1 2 26. -- H.Larkin 10 1.5 1 .5 27. 28 B.Mathews 8 1 1 28. 24 T.Bond 7 1 1 29. 20 D.Orr 6 1 1 * won tiebreaker, ahead 7-6 on individual ballots naming either player. Dropped Out: A.Dalrymple (21), H.Wright (25), J.Creighton (26), L.Meyerle (27), J.Clapp (29), Hugh Nichol (30), B.Sunday (32), C.Cummings (33).
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Posted: April 28, 2003 at 10:00 PM | 13 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: 1899 BallotFor those of you that avoided the token appearances debate, we’ll stick with what’s in our Constitution for the time being, meaning that Pete Browning IS ELIGIBLE for this election. If we decide to re-write the rule in the future, we’ll make sure it covers Browning being eligible for 1899. Let the games begin . . . balloting will close some time Monday morning (April 28), after I’ve had a cup of coffee and get a minute to announce it. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: April 21, 2003 at 11:45 PM | 67 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: Centennial Commission?The short Dickey Pearce bio on the other thread inspired this. Would you guys think it’d be reasonable to maybe open up 3 or 4 extra spots for guys that played primarily before the NA? I’m thinking guys like Creighton, Harry Wright, Dickey Pearce (are there any others?). These spots would not impact the other elections. Obviously we can’t quantify them, and most of us are already pulling our hair out. But maybe if there’s a subset of this group that’s interested in doing the research, we could let them go out and pick 3 or 4 guys to add on to the list. It’d be kind of our own Centennial Commission . . . but we make it short and quick and something on the side, and then we get rid of it, it won’t become a Veteran’s Committee. Again, I’m think about guys that starred pre-NA and don’t have much else to offer. For the guys like Joe Start and George Wright, I think we still include them in the normal elections, but the Committee could give us some extra ‘guidance’ with regard to their pre-NA days. But for a Creighton, a Pearce or a Harry Wright (he was a great player too, right?) this would make a lot of sense. And the rest of us don’t have to deal with it. If we do this, I’d initially say just 3 or 4 spots max, unless the Commission would come back and give convincing evidence that a few others are worthy. Again, if we’re doing this, we may as well be complete, but if there isn’t any interest, that’s fine too. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: April 17, 2003 at 04:25 PM | 120 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: Token appearancesLet’s discuss token appearances here, I’ll lead off with DanG’s post . . . JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: April 16, 2003 at 09:44 PM | 93 comment(s)
Related News: Hall of Merit: New Eligibles for 1899The notable newbies on the ballot (positional thread listing as well). We’ll be electing 2 new members for 1899. Charlie Bennett (C) I could have missed token appearances, my spreadsheet was set up when I wasn’t worried about token appearances, so I definitely could have missed some, please let me know if we need to fix something. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head
Posted: April 15, 2003 at 03:32 AM | 100 comment(s)
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