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OAK: Gio Gonzalez (25, LHP, 10-11, 3.24)
BOS: Tim Wakefield (44, RHP, 6-5, 4.97)

The Primer Chimp Posted: August 26, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 63 comment(s)
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1. tfbg9 Posted: August 26, 2011 at 03:30 PM (#3909573)

BOS: Tim Wakefield (44, RHP, 6-5, 4.97)

I'm gonna go way out on a limb here, and predict another big, fat, honking...LOSS.

2. karlmagnus Posted: August 26, 2011 at 09:15 PM (#3909857)

Sad, sad, your stuff doesn't even work as a reverse jinx any more.

Theo to Chicago, bring back Dan Duquette!

3. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:12 PM (#3909918)

They're just as likely to bring back Lou Gorman, Karl.

4. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:23 PM (#3909924)

What a great year Ellsbury is having.

5. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3909926)

Nice sacrifice K, Scutaro.

6. ray james Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:26 PM (#3909929)

Gonzalez has his mojo back.

7. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3909939)

Which one?

8. Dan Posted: August 26, 2011 at 11:57 PM (#3909945)

I'm shocked that Wakefield handed the lead he was given right back. How very Lackey-esque.

9. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:13 AM (#3909952)

This might come as a shock to some of you, but Burnett is getting lit up...

10. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:17 AM (#3909953)

I saw that Burnett allowed HR, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, HR to consecutive batters. Seems like the Yankees rotation is completely imploding other than Nova and Sabathia.

11. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:21 AM (#3909954)

The Wakefield Death March to 200 is getting really, really depressing.

12. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:21 AM (#3909955)

Go ####### retire, old man. No one cares if you win 200 games. No one wants to see you drop a #### on the mound every 5 or 6 days.

13. karlmagnus Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:22 AM (#3909956)

Where's the offense that scored 30 runs in 3 games against Texas?

14. Joel W Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:22 AM (#3909957)

Can't they just put him in in relief where the game is tied for like one out or something and get him a win?

15. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:24 AM (#3909959)

Just retire already, Wake. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

There is no argument for starting this guy over Miller, since Miller actually has upside and a shot at a future role on the team.

16. Joel W Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:25 AM (#3909961)

Would you guys trade him for AJ? Challenge trade?

17. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:25 AM (#3909962)

Where's the offense that scored 30 runs in 3 games against Texas?

He's allowed 6 runs in under 4 innings to one of the worst offenses in MLB, and you're blaming the offense?

Don't ever change, km.

18. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:27 AM (#3909964)

This was an embarrassment at 4 runs. Now it's double that. Seriously, this guy has no business on an MLB mound at this point. He is completely washed up.

19. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:28 AM (#3909965)

I don't want to diminish how bad Wakefield has been this inning, but he's not getting any breaks, either.

Bad pitching x bad luck = Yikes!

20. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:32 AM (#3909968)

Would you guys trade him for AJ? Challenge trade?

Only if NY is paying the full fare. Otherwise I'd much rather just cut Wake.

21. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:33 AM (#3909969)

Passed balls are not bad luck with Wakefield pitching. They're an occupational hazard for a knuckleballer.

I'm kind of with Joel. Wait until a playoff slot is secure, then fit him into a relief spot he has a chance to win.

22. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:33 AM (#3909970)

Pedroia clobbered that to start the climb out of that hole.

23. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:34 AM (#3909971)

Well, we got 1 back.

24. karlmagnus Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:34 AM (#3909972)

Only 4 of the runs were earned; if the idiot catcher fails to catch a third strike it's not his fault.

25. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:35 AM (#3909973)

Well, OK. Not sure how sustainable a strategy this is, but let's let it ride.

26. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:35 AM (#3909974)

And there's one more.

27. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:35 AM (#3909975)

Nice to see Pedroia get out of his mini-slump. Hopefully that averts another month like he had in May...

28. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:36 AM (#3909976)

if the idiot catcher fails to catch a third strike it's not his fault.

That's it, km. Blame the victim.

29. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:36 AM (#3909977)

21...I think they've already clinched.

No, really. If the play .500 the rest of the way, they'll have 95 or 96 wins. They're in, easy.

30. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:37 AM (#3909979)

Only 4 of the runs were earned; if the idiot catcher fails to catch a third strike it's not his fault.

Catcher errors are part of the price of being a knuckleballer. You can't seperate the two.

31. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:53 AM (#3909984)

I saw that Burnett allowed HR, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, HR to consecutive batters. Seems like the Yankees rotation is completely imploding other than Nova and Sabathia.

You missed the cherry on top- the error he made on a Markakis grounder at the end of that sequence.

32. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 12:58 AM (#3909990)

Triple for Ellsbury, who's working on the cycle.

And, surprise, it looks like Matsui has learned how to play the wall a little since his time with Yankees.

33. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:00 AM (#3909991)

Hey, maybe they can actually get back in this thing.

34. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:01 AM (#3909992)

Triple for Ellsbury, who's working on the cycle.

Number 4 of the season, which puts him one clear of noted speedster Adrian Gonzalez.

35. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:01 AM (#3909993)

If Wakefield hadn't completely imploded in the 4th, this would be a winnable game.

36. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:03 AM (#3909994)

And, surprise, it looks like Matsui has learned how to play the wall a little since his time with Yankees.

Maybe he can teach Crawford.

37. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:04 AM (#3909995)

If Wakefield hadn't completely imploded in the 4th, this would be a winnable game.

It was pretty surprising that A's lit him up after he got up around and over 70 pitches. The guy is usually really effective when his pitch count starts to get up there.

38. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:06 AM (#3909997)

km, Sox were winning a blowout vs. the Orioles when he sat on 198 - he could not get through 5 - he has no excuses for this pointless pursuit of 200.

I look forward to him retiring - he's toast.

39. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:09 AM (#3909999)

Somehow, I find the drive for Atchison to obtain career win # 5 to be a lot more plausible than Wakefield's for 200.

40. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:18 AM (#3910002)

Cheese Louise, Mike. Stealing second down 4?

At least you made it.

41. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3910004)

Gonzalez is losing his command.

42. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3910006)

Nice 3-1 cut, Darnell.

43. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3910007)

Wouldn't it be grand if Ellsbury went yard here?

44. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3910010)

Would've been grander if McDonald had taken ball 4 instead of popping it up.

45. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:28 AM (#3910011)

The Darnell at bat screwed the whole inning - #### he's a lemon

46. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:28 AM (#3910012)

The MLB strikezone box indicated it was a strike, Dan. You swing in that situation.

47. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3910013)

I'd have like to have seen a better result from the swing - it sucked - he's still a lemon and he ain't producing any lemonade in the near future.

48. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:34 AM (#3910017)

I really don't mind Darnell as a 4th OF who plays mostly against lefties, but he really has a lot of dumb ABs where he gets into a hitter's count and swings at a pitcher's pitch. Yes after I looked at it again on replay it was likely a strike, but it wasn't a pitch that he could drive, and not something he should swing at on 3-1. On 3-2, yeah you swing at that. On 3-1 you need to be more selective. Scutaro does the same thing very often.

49. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3910030)

So his real sin is that he doesn't cover the strikezone very well, his bat control being not that good, not that he swung, no?

50. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#3910045)

--sigh--

51. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:15 AM (#3910049)

--double sigh--

52. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3910051)

Part of the problem with Wakefield is, even on his "good" days, he can't seem to get through the 6 inning and puts extra pressure on the bullpeb.

It's a good thing Miller is pitching well or the back end of the rotation would be completely ######.

53. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3910055)

I look up the stats, and they say McDonald has been doing quite well for the last couple of months, but darn if he doesn't still look terrible in every game I watch.

54. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3910056)

Every now and then, he gets a huge hit or makes a great play but, yeah, I agree with you. Most of the time he looks hopeless.

55. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3910058)

Wow. New way for McDonald to suck!

56. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:28 AM (#3910061)

I know that it's a given in a game where the team is down 13-4 in the 9th, but seriously... This is not going to end well.

57. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3910066)

Hey, maybe he'll pull a Canseco and hurt his arm!

58. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3910067)

This could be ugly- McDonald pitching to Brandon Allen.

59. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#3910071)

Well, that could have gone worse, I guess. If the A's were trying. This has always got to be an awkward situation.

(Although, in the box score, the 4th outfielder did better than at least two professional pitchers)

60. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:39 AM (#3910073)

So, not knowing sample sizes... Which looks uglier, McDonald's hitting or pitching stats for the season?

61. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:41 AM (#3910075)

That is a "screw it, I have to be here for a doubleheader tomorrow, let's go home" strike call to go to 1-2.

62. Dan Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:44 AM (#3910078)

Nice AB from Reddick at least.

63. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:47 AM (#3910079)

Yeah, at least in garbage time, they're still trying. But this was brutal.

64. ray james Posted: August 27, 2011 at 02:47 AM (#3910080)

Oh well.

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