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Friday, July 29, 2011

Mets (54-51) @ Nationals (49-55), Friday, July 29, 2011, 7:05pm

NYM: Dillon Gee (25, RHP, 9-3, 3.75)
WSN: Chien-Ming Wang (31, RHP, 0-0, undef)

The Primer Chimp Posted: July 29, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 29 comment(s)
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1. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:06 PM (#3888631)

Let's beat this Wang!

2. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM (#3888632)

So five years from now, which start by a Met pitcher in the minors last night will we look back on as more significant: Johan's 3 shutout innings in St. Lucie, or Matt Harvey's 7 inning, 10 K performance for Binghhamton (including two strikeouts of Bryce Harper)?

3. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM (#3888634)

Daniel Murphy is a sensation.

Wang doesn't appear to be any better than when he was last in the majors.

4. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:13 PM (#3888636)

Hopefully Harvey, no offense to Santana.

5. AJMcCringleberry Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM (#3888639)

This is a nice start.

6. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM (#3888640)

Justin Turner's baserunning was as bad there as Jayson Werth's deke was good.

7. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM (#3888641)

David looks like a completely different hitter. They've been talking about how close to the plate he's been, he also looks really compact too.

8. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:15 PM (#3888644)

Station to station baseball!

9. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:16 PM (#3888645)

Thank God Turner is off the bases now to stop running that way. Lord have mercy.

10. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:18 PM (#3888646)

That's about all you can expect from Bay.

The hole that he has in his swing (outside) is just so pronounced, it really feels like a fluke when he does get a hit.

11. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:20 PM (#3888647)

4 runs, that'll work.

And they'll probably give Wang another inning, so immediate tacking on should be possible.

12. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:25 PM (#3888649)

Hopefully Harvey, no offense to Santana.

Either way, I'm certainly hoping both efforts have more long-term importance than the start made by the Cap, who started for the major league club yesterday.

I'm glad they noted there how Pagan had to compensate for Duda . . . Duda's gonna need some work on his defense, guys. From everything I can tell, he seems like he'll really work at it, but it's definitely a work in progress.

13. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:29 PM (#3888651)

Am I missing something about Cap, too? I mean, I'm a fan of the way that he works and I think he's a smart pitcher, but, uh... do we really need to resign him? He appears to be, uh, not very good.

14. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:34 PM (#3888655)

I'm a fan of the way that he works and I think he's a smart pitcher, but, uh... do we really need to resign him? He appears to be, uh, not very good.

Where are the (reliable) innings going to come from if we don't? There's Niese, Gee, and Pelfrey, and Dickey. Even if Johan comes back strong the last month, he's still something of a question mark. If the money is reasonable, wouldn't you want a sixth starter as Johan Insurance -- and if not Capuano, who would that be? Is there anyone else in the system you'd be comfortable slotting in?

15. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3888658)

I know that there isn't much in the system, but I don't think 180 innings proves that Cap is a reliable innings eater, post surgery. This might not be fair, but when you've missed as much time as he has in his career, it wouldn't surprise me if he broke down before his next start.

Not someone I really want to commit any sort of serious resources too. I suppose everything depends on what sort of contract he's looking for. But, hell, I wouldn't even want to go more than two years on him. Which maybe that works, I don't know.

16. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:42 PM (#3888661)

But, hell, I wouldn't even want to go more than two years on him. Which maybe that works, I don't know.

I'd be looking for the 2012 version of Young and Capuano -- someone willing to take a one-year deal. The Mets got reasonable value out of those two deals, about what they should have expected: one serviceable back of the rotation guy. If Capuano can be that guy again in 2012, and will take a one-year contract, great. If not, go back into the marketplace.

17. Banta Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#3888662)

I'm with that thinking, Sam.

18. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:48 PM (#3888665)

Of course, all bets are off if Johan has a major setback in his rehab and his 2012 season and maybe his career are put into doubt. At that point, Alderson would be put into a huge bind: does he continue with his (apparent) current plan to make a huge push to resign Reyes, or does he use that money to instead try to find a FA pitcher to fill the Johan void?

19. Sam M. Posted: July 29, 2011 at 11:59 PM (#3888673)

Jason Bay . . . even when he does good things, he does bad things. Just not his year.

20. AJMcCringleberry Posted: July 30, 2011 at 12:00 AM (#3888674)

Damn, great throw.

21. Sam M. Posted: July 30, 2011 at 12:34 AM (#3888695)

You know, Bay is starting to show some actual signs of life . . . . which means, with his luck, he's about to break his wrist or something.

22. Conor Posted: July 30, 2011 at 12:35 AM (#3888696)

Capuano has a 3.80 xFIP this year, and a 3.97 FIP.

He's nothing more than a backend starter, but the Mets could do worse. For more than a year, pass.

23. Sam M. Posted: July 30, 2011 at 12:38 AM (#3888699)

For more than a year, pass.

By 2013, I'd love it if guys like Familia, Mejia, and especially Harvey and Wheeler are making a real push for a shot in the rotation. I realize not all of them will -- but if we could get one ace and one solid rotation starter out of those four, I'd be thrilled.

IOW, yes: don't go more than year-to-year on the back-end starter we probably need for next year.

24. Sam M. Posted: July 30, 2011 at 12:42 AM (#3888702)

I love, love, LOVE the way they rebuilt this lead after the Nats started chipping away. Outstanding.

25. Sam M. Posted: July 30, 2011 at 12:56 AM (#3888714)

Two walks (and a hit) to load the bases with a five run lead . . . ugh.

26. Sam M. Posted: July 30, 2011 at 01:06 AM (#3888722)

The last time the Mets were four games over .500 (I'm pretty sure) was July 20, 2010, when they were 49-45. The next day, they lost to Arizona to fall to 49-46, and never got to +4 again. And they haven't been +4 this season.

27. AJMcCringleberry Posted: July 30, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3888750)

Ugh.

28. AJMcCringleberry Posted: July 30, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3888756)

Great job, Carrasco!

29. Sam M. Posted: July 30, 2011 at 02:01 AM (#3888776)

How about them apples? Every day, it seems several guys drive you nuts, but more of them pick it up. Nice.

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