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RedSox (89-70) @ Orioles (67-92), Monday, September 26, 2011, 7:05pm

BOS: Josh Beckett (31, RHP, 13-6, 2.70)
BAL: Tommy Hunter (24, RHP, 4-4, 4.86)

The Primer Chimp Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 477 comment(s)
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201. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:12 AM (#3938136)

It wasn't just Josh. A decent throw has Vlad by a mile.

202. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:14 AM (#3938138)

V Guerrero stole second? What year is it?

203. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:15 AM (#3938140)

True. Salty was throwing really well a few weeks ago. Since then his offense and defense have both cratered. Is he just burnt out from catching so many innings? He's never really been a starting catcher before...

204. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:16 AM (#3938141)

Beckett's got nothing. They should pull him (but have no one warming). Then again, who would they bring in?

205. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:16 AM (#3938142)

I'm not watching the game. Did they let Vlad use a segway or something?

206. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:17 AM (#3938145)

Kiss this one goodbye.

207. Answer Guy. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:18 AM (#3938146)

Vlad stole one other base this season. Probably against the Sox.

208. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:18 AM (#3938147)

He cannot control his fastball at all. Right now, he's curve/change pitcher. That's not good.

209. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:18 AM (#3938148)

Beckett's got nothing. They should pull him (but have no one warming). Then again, who would they bring in?

A lefty to face Davis would perhaps be nice.

I don't understand how they get to 100 pitches with no one warming in the bullpen with the expanded September rosters and all.

210. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:19 AM (#3938149)

I'm not watching the game. Did they let Vlad use a segway or something?

#### that made me laugh.

Beckett has absolutely nothing - this team has nothing - they only won last night as the Yankees put out Proctor - they really are not that good

211. Answer Guy. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:19 AM (#3938150)

Yeah, this seems to be more managerial malpractice. But he is our best guy right now.

212. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:19 AM (#3938151)

Can't wait to see how Davis burns them here

213. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3938153)

This is a joke. Davis is doing him favors.

214. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3938154)

Girardi runs up the white flag ... Kontos in.

215. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3938156)

WHAT THE #### KIND of 1-2 PITCH WAS THAT ####?

216. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3938157)

Trying to keep things light tonight, Phil.

217. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3938158)

Again ahead 1-2 and gets crushed.

Becket's staying in !

218. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3938159)

GOD LIVES!

219. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3938161)

Seriously how the #### do you throw Chris ####### Davis a pitch in the strike zone on 1-2?

220. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3938163)

What a complete and utter ####### #### of a result - this team is a ####### joke - the sooner this season ends the better.

221. Answer Guy. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3938164)

Here comes Andino...this would not normally cause trepidation. But he has been killing the Sox this month. Of course, who, other than Scott Proctor, hasn't?

222. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3938165)

GOD LIVES!

No, the divorce thread is on the main page. This is Game Chatter.

223. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3938166)

Might as well leave Beckett in to let them blow this open, right? Why not? Gotta save that bullpen for tomorrow, right?

224. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3938168)

MVP MVP MVP MVP

225. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3938169)

#### this team, I give up.

Go to hell Francona.

226. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3938170)

That's perfect.

Tito--you're fired.

227. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3938171)

Kontos in.

Two words: Reid Brignac

228. Joel W Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3938172)

When even Ellsbury can't come through, it's just not meant to be.

229. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3938173)

Season over.

230. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:24 AM (#3938174)

THIS TEAM IS A JOKE - EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM IS A JOKE - NO MORE PROJECTIONS - NO MORE ODDS - THEY ####### SUCK - IT'S THAT SIMPLE - THEY ####### SUCK

231. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:24 AM (#3938175)

Wow! That's amazing!

Come on, you can't even be mad now. This is really something!

232. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:24 AM (#3938176)

At least this reminds us of who the trolls on Primer are.

233. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:24 AM (#3938177)

I do not believe this ####.

Beckett blows the game. Tito leaves him in one extra batter. Even Ellsbury, had a chance to make a catch and keep the game in reach, and he can't do it.

234. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:24 AM (#3938178)

Rumour has it that Ozzie Guillen has been traded to the Florida Marlins.
(mentioned during Jays/White Sox broadcast)

235. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:24 AM (#3938179)

BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL

236. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3938180)

BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL

Darren, over here! I think I found one.

237. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3938181)

Sorry, Darren. It's just surreal to watch from an outside perspective. I have to imagine that September for Red Sox fans has been like the Bartman game was for the Cubs fan. Over and over again.

238. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3938182)

I kind of want the Red Sox to make it now, primarily to see who implodes in a black hole of self-hatred.

239. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3938183)

IGNORED IGNORED IGNORED

240. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:26 AM (#3938184)

Wait a second, I turn the channel for a bit and.... THERE WAS A INSIDE THE PARK HOME RUN!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

241. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:26 AM (#3938185)

Joe, I have no idea how you can say that.

When even Ellsbury can't come through, it's just not meant to be.

That's actually pretty typical of Ellsbury in the field. He's very good at almost making great plays. Not that changes what superstar he's been this year.

And of course, it was Andino.

242. Dale Sams Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:26 AM (#3938187)

I suppose it's talking coals to Newcastle to mention that Andino was out by a mile but that defensive whiz Salty muffed it.

243. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:26 AM (#3938188)

I mean amongst the Red Sox fans.

244. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:27 AM (#3938189)

No, he was out by ten feet, but the throw skipped by the catcher. Has to be a triple and an error.

245. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:27 AM (#3938190)

Tito--you're fired.

The Cubs: "Tito-- you're hired."

246. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:28 AM (#3938191)

hahaha, Nunez did that on purpose

247. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:28 AM (#3938192)

The Cubs: "Tito-- you're hired."

I bet he'd be a pretty good manager for them. I just think he's the kind of guy - a pure players' manager - that comes with an expiration date. And it seems to have come.

248. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:29 AM (#3938194)

Salty has to come out and get that throw.

But who ####### cares, they deserve what they get. Pisses me off that we care more than they do though.

249. Chip Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:29 AM (#3938195)

Ace-o-Riffic from Beckett.

250. Textbook Editor Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:30 AM (#3938196)

Slow hook tito lives.

251. Spahn Insane Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:30 AM (#3938197)

The Cubs: "Tito-- you're hired."

Feh. If he comes with Theo, I could live with it...

252. Textbook Editor Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3938198)

I'd fire everyone. I would.

253. Spahn Insane Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3938199)

Which I guess would be kind of a nonsensical series of events, but whatever.

254. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3938201)

We already had one of those. No more Dustys.

255. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3938202)

I bet he'd be a pretty good manager for them. I just think he's the kind of guy - a pure players' manager - that comes with an expiration date. And it seems to have come.

Pretty much word for word what I was going to say.

I just can't believe he left Beckett in with nothing and a September bullpen. I know they went extras last night, but the dude had NOTHING. Leaving him in to let the O's blow that game wide open was indefensible.

256. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:31 AM (#3938203)

Hey, I just want to say something: I'm really enjoying this because I don't like the Red Sox AND like the late-season drama...but I have nothing against the BBTF Sox fans here. I hope folks like MCoA and Darren understand that I am *absolutely not* trying to troll or anything. I'm sorry if I've upset you Sox fans, but this IS the game thread for this game...dunno where else I should be talking about this.

257. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3938204)

Robert Andino is a career .246/.304/.330 hitter. Entering tonight's game, he was hitting .265/.331/.342.

He is slugging .737 this month against the Red Sox.

258. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3938205)

Tito ALWAYS had a slow hook and was generally clueless about managing a pitching staff. He was lucky that it didn't cost him early.

259. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3938211)

I don't consider any of this trolling - carry on - this is the best baseball website in the world for a reason

260. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3938212)

Feh. If he comes with Theo, I could live with it...

You can have them both.

261. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3938213)

Also, keep in the mind the Orioles are eminently capable of coughing this lead up before it's over.

262. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3938214)

Crawford hit another wonderful weak bouncer to second in this inning, so there's that.

263. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3938216)

Can't we do a Sox/Rays combined game thread for the next couple days?

264. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3938217)

Well, they did take the lead, but darn it, the Sox fought back hard that inning. I'm feeling positive.

265. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3938218)

Holy ####, that rumor about Ozzie Guillen being TRADED to the Marlins...that's actually TRUE?

266. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3938219)

What happened on the inside the park home run? I assume Andino didn't just put it somewhere where he could run it out, was it a misplay or a fluke bounce?

267. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3938221)

Also, keep in the mind the Orioles are eminently capable of coughing this lead up before it's over.

But these are September Orioles! The Orioles are ALWAYS good in April and/or September. It's the parts between that are the problem.

268. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3938222)

Also, keep in the mind the Orioles are eminently capable of coughing this lead up before it's over.

Not really. Strop and Johnson have been nails for the past several weeks. A big part of the reason why they've actually been winning games in September. Going from Gregg in the 9th inning that has been a huge upgrade.

269. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3938223)

I'm sorry if I've upset you Sox fans, but this IS the game thread for this game...dunno where else I should be talking about this.

As long as you are not offended by my antics here....

Now where was I ...

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270. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3938224)

Can't we do a Sox/Rays combined game thread for the next couple days?

This has basically already been one.

271. Joel W Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3938225)

Have decided to watch the MNF game because, well, yeah. Thanks for the season guys.

272. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3938226)

Good thing we saved Aceves to pitch when down by 4 runs.

273. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938227)

Instead of maybe using him to start in place of Wakefield.

274. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938228)

Banner raising at the Garden, October 6th. My playoff money is going towards scalping a ticket for that.

275. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938229)

Now Aceves?!?!? Why not save him for tomorrow?

I'm almost starting to feel bad for the Sox fans here. Almost.

276. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938230)

The inside the park homer came after Ellsbury almost made a great running catch, but the ball bounced out of his glove when he hit the wall. Andido is out my plenty on a good throw.

277. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938231)

Surprised it's not Beckett again. Then again, burning Aceves here is far more damaging, so that makes sense.

278. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938232)

Good thing we saved Aceves to pitch when down by 4 runs.

I'm surprised he wasn't burned out by last night's marathon, honestly.

279. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938233)

You think you guys have it bad. The Mets just lost a lead in the 7th on a three-run homer.

280. Chip Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3938234)

Aceves will now pitch lights out here, just to demonstrate the incompetence of Tito's decision to stick with Beckett when he had nothing.

281. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3938235)

Joe, I have no idea how you can say that.

I mean, on the one hand, yeah, it's terrible. I hate the 2011 Red Sox. They are my least favorite team since at least 2001, and possibly of my lifetime. I'm also not in any way trying to diminish any anger or otherwise anyone is feeling. While I am often the one who feels like you guys overreact, there's no way I would try to say that right now. Let that #### out.

On the other hand, I mean, it's just so terrible, so surreal, so massive in scope and drama, that I don't know, it's also become kind of amazing. I mean, this is just ####### NUTS.

282. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3938236)

I'm having such bad flashbacks to 2007 now.

283. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3938237)

Now Aceves?!?!? Why not save him for tomorrow?

I'm almost starting to feel bad for the Sox fans here. Almost.

If anyone questioned why we've been thinking it's time for Francona to go, tonight's game has been Exhibit A.

284. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3938240)

How the hell is that an ITPHR? It's obviously an error.

285. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3938241)

You think you guys have it bad. The Mets just lost a lead in the 7th on a three-run homer.

Thanks, Eeyore.

286. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3938242)

I'm in an exceptionally terrible mood.

287. Textbook Editor Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3938243)

Is it wrong I wanted Crawford to slide after the foul ball and suffer a season-ending injury?

288. Chip Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3938244)

Remy and Orsillo talking about Beckett looking fatiqued last inning; in fact he was fatigued and had lost his command even before the 6th. And yet Aceves was up only briefly earlier in the game before sitting down. Which might explain why he's in the game now - if you get him up multiple times tonight after using him for an extended stretch last night, you've effectively burned him.

289. nick swisher hygiene Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3938245)

Aceves must be in the doghouse now....or you figure you've got Bard and Paps for three innings tomorrow, so your third best reliever won't be needed?

290. Textbook Editor Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3938247)

If anyone questioned why we've been thinking it's time for Francona to go, tonight's game has been Exhibit A.

Yup.

291. Darren

Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3938249)

On the other hand, I mean, it's just so terrible, so surreal, so massive in scope and drama, that I don't know, it's also become kind of amazing. I mean, this is just ####### NUTS.

I can ignore it sometimes, I can be above it sometimes, but I can't get to amused. I'm not even comforted by the thought of Tito getting fired.

Hey, does anyone remember the Red Sox amazing super secret arm strengthening program?

292. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3938250)

If Kontos was merely a white flag, Girardi bringing in Ayala here is a "Grand Wizard" level of "White" flag ...

293. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3938251)

Darren: To put what I tried to say in [281] another way.

294. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3938253)

If anyone questioned why we've been thinking it's time for Francona to go, tonight's game has been Exhibit A.

Yeah, that's just insane. Down 4 runs you use your 3rd best RP, with shaky starters the next two days. Baffling.

295. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3938254)

I'm in an exceptionally terrible mood.

I'm not mad. I don't know why, exactly. Sad, disappointed, but not angry.

And, at worst we're *still* tied for the playoffs after this abortion.

296. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3938255)

If Kontos was merely a white flag, Girardi bringing in Ayala here is a "Grand Wizard" level of "White" flag ...

Luis Ayala is still in baseball? And pitching with a 1.67 ERA? Who'da thunk it?

297. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3938256)

And of course, I screwed up the link.

To put it another way, Darren.

298. Esoteric Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3938257)

Bases loaded with 1 out for Johnny Damon in the Rays/Yanks game.

299. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3938258)

I just got a text from a mate in Hong Kong , he's seriously worried about me for some reason

300. nick swisher hygiene Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:46 AM (#3938259)

292--Ayala this year: 54 innings of perhaps the least impressive 1.67 ERA pitching I can think of....

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