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Tuesday, September 27, 2011

RedSox (89-71) @ Orioles (68-92), Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 7:05pm

BOS: Erik Bedard (32, LHP, 5-9, 3.50)
BAL: Zach Britton (23, LHP, 11-10, 4.44)

The Primer Chimp Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 853 comment(s)
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701. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3940344)

Jim, Why not start Moore with Niemann in relief? Or do they think it would work better the other way--with Moore coming in at the 1st sign of trouble?

702. Dale Sams Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3940345)

Red Sox are going to blow this. I feel it in my bones. all the signs are there.

703. Darren

Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3940346)

Nice 0-2 pitch.

704. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3940347)

Tying run to the plate. Holy #### this game is intense.

705. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3940348)

And here we go.

706. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3940349)

I'm actually not worried about the Sox tiring out their pitchers on the way to the playoffs. At this point I figure they're better off with the adrenalin than with the rest.

707. Spahn Insane Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3940350)

Rather a poor 0-2 pitch.

708. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3940351)

Any more wise words, Esoteric?

709. ntr RdP Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3940352)

#701 The talking heads have been saying how Moore has always started and needs lots of warmup time so Madden probably would start him if he were going to use him at all.

710. Dale Sams Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3940353)

I'm turning it off, it's over.

711. DKDC Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940354)

Do this, Nicky!

712. McCoy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940355)

Borowski was the closer on that team, and he was good.

Not in the playoffs and didn't he get injured during Spring Training the next year or have it discovered he tore something or other early in the next season?

713. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940356)

What happened to the other half of Markakis' beard?

714. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940357)

Red Sox are going to blow this. I feel it in my bones. all the signs are there.

Why are you still here? Car. Road. Drive. Now.

715. Darren

Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940358)

Pap should be living a foot off the plate with this guy's zone.

716. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940359)

As a btw, Hobbit was absolutely killin' it in AAA the month before you traded him, NTN - doesn't really mean anything, but his opponents' OPS was, like, .350 or so.

717. Dan Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940360)

I bet Francona starts Lackey if there's a one-gamer. And I bet people here lose their #### when it's announced.

If there is a playoff on Thursday and Francona starts Lackey I will be rooting for the Rays to win. Because if they're that stupid the Sox deserve to lose.

718. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3940361)

Cardinals tie it up.

6-6.

719. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3940362)

LOL. This zone is hilarious.

720. Darren

Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3940363)

See. Do that.

721. Dan Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3940364)

This ump is still a joke.

722. Dale Sams Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3940365)

Francona starts Lackey

Lackey or Wake...with Salty catching. 4 PBs and WPs in the first inning alone 3-0.

723. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3940367)

Ump covering himself with glory. Assclown

724. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940368)

Wally Bell has turned into Eric Gregg circa 1997

725. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940369)

Was he calling that a strike to lefties earlier in the game? If Papelbon can throw that for the rest of the game, he should be unhittable.

Going out there again, nice.

726. Mattbert Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940370)

Pap is missing his spots by like a foot half the time.

727. Gamingboy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940372)

Wally Bell has turned into Eric Gregg circa 1997

That's what I was thinking!

728. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940373)

Why would you ever throw it in there tonight?

729. Darren

Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940374)

What is with guys being able to foul off 100 pitches against the Sox?

730. Jay Seaver Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940375)

At this point, MLB really has to be looking into developing umpire robots.

731. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3940376)

I don't see Beckett starting 163.

732. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:28 AM (#3940377)

What happened to the other half of Markakis' beard?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of you, see [40].

=)

733. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:28 AM (#3940378)

It's just never easy, is it. BTW Benji, I'm 46.

sorry, had a two hour meeting at work..

734. NJ in NJ Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:29 AM (#3940379)

That was ball 4, #######. C'mon.

735. Darren

Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:29 AM (#3940380)

I know the run doesn't matter, but how about keeping the DP in order?

736. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:29 AM (#3940382)

O's announcers still impressed with the fact that LAH-VAUGHN-WHEY graduated from Yale ...

737. Jim Wisinski

Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:29 AM (#3940381)

Jim, Why not start Moore with Niemann in relief? Or do they think it would work better the other way--with Moore coming in at the 1st sign of trouble?

No, I think Moore is easily the best option. Niemann is not reliable and it's clear that the Rays don't trust him either since he was pulled after one bad inning in favor of a talented rookie with crappy control at AAA and poor results in the majors thus far (Torres). That was a heck of a gamble and shows that all the knowledge they have from being experienced baseball people working with Niemann gives them little confidence right now. But actually skipping him, one of the guys relied on all season to start, in favor of a rookie is something that just doesn't tend to happen in baseball. So that's why I think the odds still favor Niemann starting with an extremely short leash.

However, if that's going to happen the Rays are the team and this is the situation to do it.

738. Gamingboy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:29 AM (#3940383)

Markakis is giving a epic battle here.

739. The District Attorney Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:30 AM (#3940385)

I'd be worried about Moore getting Salomon Torres'd if he blows it.

The fact that he is so good, while it makes him theoretically the better choice to start the game, also means that screwing him up -- even if it has a low probability to happen -- might not be the best risk/reward.

Niemann isn't terrible either, so that helps.

740. NTNgod Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:30 AM (#3940386)

As a btw, Hobbit was absolutely killin' it in AAA the month before you traded him, NTN - doesn't really mean anything, but his opponents' OPS was, like, .350 or so.

Yeah, but guys with 85MPH fastballs are toast when they don't have location - and he didn't have his location in his brief Brewers tenure*. I can see why he made it to the Brewers on waivers when they claimed him this year.

(* I saw him pitch a few Reds games as well)

741. Joel W Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:30 AM (#3940387)

I honestly don't know if I can watch this. ####### kill me.

742. Gamingboy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:30 AM (#3940388)

O's announcers still impressed with the fact that LAH-VAUGHN-WHEY graduated from Yale ...

So what? Ryan Fitzpatrick is from HAHVAHD. And he was there the same time as Mark Zuckerberg, the Winklevoss Twins and Natalie Portman!

743. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3940389)

"Fires" to second, Don?

744. Gamingboy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3940390)

Let it be noted that Matt Wieters is now on-deck.

745. Jim Wisinski

Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3940391)

Hell yes MLB Network is doing a live look-in on this game.

746. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3940392)

740: Agreed (and he didn't have it with the Reds this yeareither). I was just noting that he found his command a month or two back, that's all. Still no velocity, of course.

747. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3940393)

Nice play by Gonzo!

748. The District Attorney Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3940394)

Of course, if Niemann actually is hurt, then there may not be much choice.

749. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3940395)

boy, Gonzo never looks too fast when rounding the bases, but he's quick around that bag when fielding. No chance to get the guy at second, but still he got rid of it pretty quickly.

750. Joel W Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3940396)

Did anybody think that was a line-out double play at first?

751. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3940397)

Boy, good thing for the Sox that Gonzalez was playing the line.

752. DKDC Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3940398)

Damn. Nice battle though.

753. Jay Seaver Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3940399)

Oh, come on...

754. ntr RdP Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3940400)

You have to get up pretty early to get a pitch past Vlad.

755. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3940401)

Vlad is absolutely murdering the Sox tonight.

756. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3940403)

Don't get me wrong--I'd start Beckett and ask him to get me 9 outs on Thursday, but I just can't see the Red Sox doing that.

Of course, there may not *be* a 163...

757. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3940404)

Oh no no no no

758. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3940405)

1-for-14 in his career against Papelbon, and a softly hit ball finds the outfield. This is ridiculous.

759. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3940406)

Cardinals up by 2.

8-6.

760. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3940407)

WHY THE #### ARE YOU NOT THROWING EVERY ####### PITCH ON THE OUTSIDE HALF OF THE ####### PLATE.

Sorry, I was channeling my inner-Coorey.

761. McCoy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3940409)

By the way I kind of combined Farnsworth and Borowski in my mind. Borowski blew the 9th inning in game one but then pitched pretty well in his other two games. Farnsworth and some innings where he imploded as well but then I believe pitched an inning that was good.

762. Lassus Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3940410)

You guys are really trying, aren't you?

\"############# steal everything."

763. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3940411)

This has walk-off written all over it.

764. DKDC Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3940412)

Dont futz around with a SB attempt here.

Just let Wieters swing away.

765. McCoy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3940413)

If Wieters comes through here he will cement his legend.

766. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3940414)

Wesley Wright is on the St. Louis payroll - 8-6 birds.

767. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3940415)

2-R triple for Ryan Theriot, 8-6 Cards.

768. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940416)

Let's hope it isn't BP Pro projection Wieters or were doooomed!

769. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940418)

Wesley Wright is on the St. Louis payroll - 9-6 birds.

770. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940419)

DE-FENCE!

771. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940420)

Holy crap. Holy crap. Heart attack. Heart attack.

772. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940421)

Wow, that was almost a huge mess for the Sox.

773. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940422)

Wow. That was SO Red Sox.

774. ntr RdP Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940423)

I thought Wieters was gonna be safe at 1B.

775. Gamingboy Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940424)

Wieters almost got it there. Not the home run, he just merely made the Red Sox nearly completely screw up.

776. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940425)

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

777. The District Attorney Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940426)

Is that the LAVARNWAY to field a bunt?

778. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940427)

Is Wieters hurt or something? God that took a long time.

779. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3940428)

JESUS PAPELBON FIELD YOUR POSITION YOU IDIOT!

780. Jay Seaver Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#3940429)

STOP IT WITH THE SUSPENSE!!!

781. Lassus Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#3940430)

OK, I admit, I was laughing during that one.

782. The District Attorney Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#3940432)

Not a bunt. You know.

783. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#3940433)

I really hate Papelbon, btw.

784. ntr RdP Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#3940434)

They all just stood there looking at the ball.

785. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:37 AM (#3940435)

Wieters looks pretty slow.

786. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:37 AM (#3940436)

I thought for sure he was going to heave that past 1B and it was tie-game-time.

787. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:37 AM (#3940437)

But then gods don't need to hurry; time waits for them, not the other way.

788. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:37 AM (#3940438)

Indecisiveness is more evidence they're playing tight.

789. Jay Seaver Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:37 AM (#3940440)

Just one more friggin' strike...

790. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:37 AM (#3940442)

How will he #### up this 0-2?

791. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3940443)

I thought for sure he was going to heave that past 1B and it was tie-game-time.

No kidding. I almost didn't want him to throw it.

792. Lassus Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3940444)

BTW, once Paps gets this out, you can all come over to chatter the Mets game, you know, which is in the 11th. Drama!

793. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3940445)

Papelbon's command is awful tonight.

794. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3940446)

(believe?)

795. Textbook Editor Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3940447)

Papelbon does seem to be missing all over.

796. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3940448)

Doesn't matter what they did or didn't do, they got the out.

That's all that mattered.

Line drive in the box score and all that sort of thing ...

797. Jay Seaver Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:39 AM (#3940450)

THAT'S A BALL?

798. Der-K's tired of these fruits from poisoned trees Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:39 AM (#3940451)

BTW, once Paps gets this out, you can all come over to chatter the Mets game, you know, which is in the 11th. Drama!
Are they still in the NL?

799. Miserable, Non-Binary Candy is all we deserve CoB Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:39 AM (#3940452)

Where the HELL was that???

800. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: September 28, 2011 at 02:39 AM (#3940453)

He called all those other pitches strikes and not that?

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