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Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Yankees (80-52) @ RedSox (82-51), Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 7:10pm

NYY: CC Sabathia (30, LHP, 17-7, 2.99)
BOS: John Lackey (32, RHP, 12-9, 5.98)

The Primer Chimp Posted: August 30, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 202 comment(s)
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101. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3912894)

12 baserunners, including 2 doubles and a homer, and yet only 2 runs off of Sabathia. At least he's out of this game (probably)

102. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3912896)

I'm glad you caught that and all, but are you really so afraid of the wall that you need to jump when you're 6 feet in front of it?

103. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3912898)

Neither would I Drew, but I think it's fair to call it "pretty close." .341/.398/.439 (his numbers since the 3,000 hit game before tonight) has got to be close in value to anything but his 1999 season.

104. nick swisher hygiene Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:26 AM (#3912899)

101--well, you could put it another way: 10 Ks in 5 innings, about a billion swinging strikes, and the BABIP of .800 doesn't satisfy you: you want clutch hits too?

105. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:28 AM (#3912900)

You are correct, sir. I didn't know it was even that close. 128 second-half OPS+, which is a dead ringer for his peak years other than his mega 1999.

106. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3912901)

It seems kind of insane to let Sabathia start an inning at 109 pitches when you're basically a shoo-in for the playoffs. I know he's a "horse" and all, but that seems like a bad idea.

107. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3912902)

Nice hold-up, Darnell. Now make him pay.

108. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3912904)

I think we deserve a Scoot HR to compensate for the Cervelli one.

109. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3912907)

13 baserunners, and 2 runs. Considering one was a home run, outside of that they've scored 1 of 12 guys they've put on base.

110. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3912908)

Good lord, Gonzalez looks helpless up there.

111. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3912909)

It's pretty impressive that Sabathia has allowed this many base runners considering that Rapuano is giving him a 3 foot wide strike zone.

112. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3912915)

128 pitches for Sabathia over 6 innings in a practically meaningless game.

113. Jay Seaver Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3912916)

Does Cervelli honestly think he's worth hitting deliberately, even if he got a home run earlier?

114. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3912919)

That was clearly deliberate and in response to Cervelli's fist-pumping histrionics.

115. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3912920)

A) Lackey threw at him;
B) Lackey's a mouth-breathing idiot.

116. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:46 AM (#3912921)

Jerry, you're right that it makes no sense...But this is Lackey.

117. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:46 AM (#3912922)

And yes, Lackey is a ####### idiot for heading the leadoff man in a 2 run game.

118. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3912924)

As long as Cervelli is employed by the Yankees I don't want to hear any Yankee fan ######## about Youkilis hanging over the plate. I've never seen someone crowd it so badly.

That said, given the HR last time...that didn't really look good from Lackey.

119. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:48 AM (#3912925)

The worst part is that it's CERVELLI. To quote Earl Weaver, he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a ####### boat.

120. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:49 AM (#3912926)

Why is Lackey even still in this ####### game?

121. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:50 AM (#3912928)

They're trying to blow out his arm so they can reclaim the roster spot from his messed-up rear end.

122. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:51 AM (#3912929)

It's depressing that Lackey thinks he's a good enough pitcher to be putting the leadoff man on base.

123. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:52 AM (#3912930)

Congratulations, John. Now you look like a big man and you allow another run.

124. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:53 AM (#3912931)

It's not even that. He's probably at his wits' end with all the stuff going on with him this year. But there's no excuse for taking it out on the hitter like a putz.

125. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:53 AM (#3912932)

Jeter is like the reverse Scutaro. Even when he fails horribly, he succeeds.

126. nick swisher hygiene Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:53 AM (#3912933)

Lackey sucks, so leaving him in is understandable--Girardi's letting CC throw 128 pitches, on the other hand, is dumber than a box of ten dogs....

127. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:54 AM (#3912934)

So...Pedroia gets hit and a brawl ensues here, right?

128. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:55 AM (#3912935)

So...Pedroia gets hit and a brawl ensues here, right?

I hope not.

129. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:55 AM (#3912936)

Why is Lackey even still in this ####### game?

Because this is the part of the season where the Red Sox leave their starters in at least 20 pitches past where they are effective, becuase.... well because!

130. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:56 AM (#3912937)

Would not surprise me. The HBP part anyway.

131. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:57 AM (#3912938)

What is the ####### point of a 7 man bullpen if Lackey is throwing the 7th inning at 100+ pitches.

132. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:57 AM (#3912939)

That taunt was pretty bad, though.

133. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3912940)

I had missed the Cervelli HR. That was a pretty bush-league move, as they say. I wonder if he was doing it knowing that it would get into Lackey's head.

134. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3912941)

What is the ####### point of a 7 man bullpen if Lackey is throwing the 7th inning at 100+ pitches.

After 2 days off, as well. With your best 2 pitches going the next two nights.

135. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3912942)

Right at home plate and appeared to be at the Red Sox dugout.

I hate Lackey less for drilling him now.

136. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3912943)

That was like strike 10 to Pedroia.

137. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3912944)

I get that that kind of thing is frowned upon, but it didn't look at all like a taunt to me, looked like a \"#### yeah!" reaction from a guy who very rarely homers.

138. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3912945)

I had missed the Cervelli HR. That was a pretty bush-league move, as they say. I wonder if he was doing it knowing that it would get into Lackey's head.

You're giving Cervelli way to much credit. Douchey histrionics come to him naturally, they are not some plot to get inside the opponents' heads. You didn't see his emphatic fist pump after the K to end the 5th inning?

I have never seen another catcher fist pump after a K.

139. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3912946)

Hooray for misleading NESN camera work!

140. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:00 AM (#3912947)

Hey Camera person, that ball was pretty obviously going to be caught. If you could stop with the BS sky shots, I'd appreciate it.

141. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:00 AM (#3912948)

Douchey histrionics come to him naturally, they are not some plot to get inside the opponents' heads.

So, the anti-Brad Marchand, both in intent and talent.

142. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:00 AM (#3912950)

#### the camera work and #### Orsillo.

143. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:02 AM (#3912951)

Don often sounds like he's mailing it in this year.

144. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3912952)

#### the camera work and #### Orsillo.

But <3 Jed, right?

145. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3912953)

Here come the Red Sox! (Probably not, though.)

146. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:07 AM (#3912954)

That was ####### ugly, David.

147. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3912955)

How did Ortiz get such a bad read on that? Even he should've scored on that.

148. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3912956)

This team cannot hit with the bases loaded. We're ######.

149. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3912957)

I was watching Tigers/Royals (which is over, even though they played extras) and every time I changed it to this game, CC was taking an eternity to throw the damn ball.

150. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#3912958)

Great at bat from Salty!

151. Jay Seaver Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3912959)

C'mon, Darnell... .200 is right there waiting for you!

152. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3912960)

16 base runners, 2 runs.

153. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:11 AM (#3912961)

This ump's strike zone is weird. The 1-1 to McDonald was clearly better than a number of outside pitches CC got.

154. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3912965)

I love how Girardi can leave in Logan against righties and get away with it.

155. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3912966)

They should hit Cervelli again.

156. Jay Seaver Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3912967)

Gawd friggin dammit.

157. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3912968)

They should hit Cervelli again.

Apparently with a bat this time, since he didn't get the memo.

158. Answer Guy. Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:15 AM (#3912969)

I suppose this game doesn't matter a ton to Tito. I don't think I'd have let McDonald bat there, lefty-lefty matchup with Redick be damned. Feeling the need to carry that many damned pitchers really hurts in situations like this.

159. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3912970)

I suppose this game doesn't matter a ton to Tito. I don't think I'd have let McDonald bat there, lefty-lefty matchup with Redick be damned. Feeling the need to carry that many damned pitchers really hurts in situations like this.

The hilarious thing is that Lackey pitched the 7th inning despite a 13 man pitching staff that had 2 full days of rest.

160. Answer Guy. Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:20 AM (#3912971)

Honestly, 13 pitchers is ridiculous. I suppose it's academic since rosters expand in two days, but the PH shortage is annoying. Sometimes you need a crucial hit and some of that time, unless you're a rare case like the '03 team with no holes in the lineup, there happens to be a terrible hitter at the plate.

161. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:20 AM (#3912972)

Apparently with a bat this time, since he didn't get the memo.

Yeah, I'm on board, scratch what I said in that earlier post.

And this is the guy whose manager pissed and moaned about Ortiz's bat flip, right?

162. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:21 AM (#3912973)

This is insanely painful to watch. 12 hits, 12 Ks, 2 runs?

163. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3912975)

Go with eight relievers and have a bullpen game every sixth day. Can't be any worse.

164. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#3912976)

As crappy as Lackey is, the Sox hitters have only scored 2 runs. This one's mostly on them.

165. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#3912977)

As crappy as Lackey is, the Sox hitters have only scored 2 runs. This one's mostly on them.

And most of that is on Gonzalez, sad to say.

166. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#3912978)

Albers is coming in? Why not Wheeler?

167. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:32 AM (#3912979)

I want to make clear that I don't support hitting guys on purpose, that was just a rhetorical flourish.

168. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3912980)

Is that person ####### serious who put in a tweet about Lackey "battling"? 5 runs in 7 innings ####### sucks, no matter who you are.

169. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:33 AM (#3912981)

They went to Albers, hopefully, because they think it's over.

170. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:34 AM (#3912982)

I want to make clear that I don't support hitting guys on purpose, that was just a rhetorical flourish.

It would be much more appropriate if our pitchers and defenders fist pumped wildly every time they retire Cervelli.

171. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:35 AM (#3912984)

Drew was 3-3 today.

172. Jay Seaver Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#3912986)

Oh, knock it off, Cervelli, you ridiculous drama queen.

173. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:40 AM (#3912990)

3-3 is good, but did he have any XBH? This year is looked like his power was completely gone.

174. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:41 AM (#3912991)

No, but Nava had 2.

175. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:48 AM (#3912993)

Better catch than Crawford has made all year in LF.

176. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:49 AM (#3912994)

It would be much more appropriate if our pitchers and defenders fist pumped wildly every time they retire Cervelli.

I'd settle for a middle finger.

177. NewGrass Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:51 AM (#3912996)

Red Sox-Yankees games lessen my desire to live.

178. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:52 AM (#3912997)

Red Sox-Yankees games lessen my desire to live.

You might want to find something else to do, then.

179. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:53 AM (#3912999)

Red Sox-Yankees games lessen my desire to live.

180. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:53 AM (#3913000)

Red Sox-Yankees games lessen my desire to live.

It's too bad someone has you strapped into a chair with your eyelids open forcing you to watch then.

181. Dale Sams Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:55 AM (#3913001)

I don't know if anyone here read what became the 'WC one-game playoff thread"...but imagine if this were that one game playoff. "Oh lots of baserunners? Lots of line drives right at each people? Tough ####. That's baseball, see ya next year."

For the billionth time, I don't watch 162 games to see a GD coin-flip.

/rant off

Sorry.

182. NewGrass Posted: August 31, 2011 at 02:57 AM (#3913005)

Baseball does not take four hours to play. It is a shame that the best rivalry in the sport is the least watchable.

I'll be quiet now, so as not to become a threadjaker or interrupt your enjoyment of the game.

Besides, who am I to talk? I just spent the last 2.5 hours watching the Pirates and Astros.

183. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:02 AM (#3913009)

Thanks for buttering him up, Don.

184. Jay Seaver Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:03 AM (#3913010)

Ah, the tease begins.

185. Dale Sams Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:04 AM (#3913011)

Are you fukking kidding me

186. NewGrass Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:04 AM (#3913012)

Wow, that was awful. foot or two outside.

187. Jay Seaver Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:05 AM (#3913013)

Like ####### Rivera needs gifts from the ####### umpire.

188. PJ Martinez Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:05 AM (#3913014)

O'Brien and Castiglione just agreed this has been the worst balls-and-strikes performance by an ump they've seen this year.

189. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:05 AM (#3913016)

Well if Mariano is getting called strikes 10" off the plate, it's over...

190. Darren

Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:05 AM (#3913015)

Rivera + this tool = idiocy.

191. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:05 AM (#3913017)

#### you, Ed.

192. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:05 AM (#3913018)

ARE YOU ####### JOKING ME RAPUANO???

193. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:06 AM (#3913019)

All of a sudden that pitch is a strike.

194. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:07 AM (#3913020)

I dunno, I think those pitches were only around 8 inches outside.

195. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:08 AM (#3913021)

If I were Jed I would have gotten myself tossed on that K. And I would have made sure I got my money's worth in too...

196. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:08 AM (#3913022)

Rapuano is a ####### joke.

197. Dale Sams Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:09 AM (#3913024)

I think Girardi is right

198. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:10 AM (#3913025)

It takes some serious balls to yell at the umpires after your pitchers have been getting a 3 foot wide strike zone.

199. Jay Seaver Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:10 AM (#3913026)

Girardi has no business complaining to the umpires about ANYTHING this inning.

200. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:10 AM (#3913027)

Don't blame Girardi for going nuts there.

This crew is entirely dickless.

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