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Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Yankees (81-52) @ RedSox (82-52), Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10pm

NYY: Phil Hughes (25, RHP, 4-4, 6.46)
BOS: Josh Beckett (31, RHP, 11-5, 2.43)

The Primer Chimp Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 302 comment(s)
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1. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 10:59 PM (#3913849)

So, how does Hughes do tonight?

Personally, I think he's going to get pummeled.

2. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:00 PM (#3913850)

I expect him to do poorly, but who the hell knows what will happen. This team has been dominated by some bad pitchers (think Kyle Davies).

3. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:01 PM (#3913851)

I must never have seen that intro before. According to the guy with the tv voice, YES is "the Yankee Entertainment and Sports network". That's YESN, not YES.

4. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:02 PM (#3913853)

Personally, I think he's going to get pummeled.

Almost guaranteed. He's had one start this season where he spotted his fastball the way he would need to in order to succeed tonight. There are always at 'em nights though.

5. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:03 PM (#3913854)

YESN shows the Cervelli HR and idiot clap, and then cuts to an alleged reaction shot of Lackey. I think Lackey is supposed to look displeased or something, he's standing there slack-jawed with a wad of gum halfway out of his mouth, dripping down his chin. That's not displeasure, that's Lackey's reaction to events occurring in the world.

6. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:09 PM (#3913862)

I think I'd rather listen to Dave O'Brien, Nomar, and Schilling than Remy and Orsillo. So ESPN it is...

7. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:12 PM (#3913863)

Plus with ESPN I can chatter without needing to worry about reloading and spoiling something due to the delay that MLB.tv has with NexDef (which the PS3 always uses)

8. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:16 PM (#3913864)

Sacrificing in the first inning with Hughes pitching for your team? This is the kind of stuff that makes me think Girardi is terrible.

9. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:16 PM (#3913865)

Girardi is bunting in the first inning? He expecting a low scoring game or something? I don't see it.

10. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:16 PM (#3913866)

Don't throw Granderson fastballs, Josh. He's a fastball hitter

11. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:19 PM (#3913868)

Beautiful curve. Getting on top of it and getting nice 12-6 break on it.

12. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:19 PM (#3913870)

Beckett's curve is the perfect expression of the pitch.

13. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3913871)

I have to go out to pick up dinner. Important thing for New Yorkers reading: Zabb Elee in the east village is the best Thai (northern Thai, specifically) in all of Manhattan by a wide margin. Larb!

14. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:22 PM (#3913872)

Thai food tears up my insides.

15. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3913874)

My supervisor told me a funny aphorism his dad told him about Thai food. He said Thais know when to eat again when their ####### stops burning.

16. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:25 PM (#3913876)

The nanny blaked out a word that begins with an A and ends with an E. I'll let you figure out the rest.

17. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:27 PM (#3913878)

Hughes is throwing hard early. Be interesting to see if he loses velocity over the game like Lackey did last night.

18. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:27 PM (#3913879)

Wow, gassed by Hughes, that's unexpected.

ESPN is trying to start another manufactured controversy tonight.

19. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:28 PM (#3913880)

Pedroia rocks!

20. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:30 PM (#3913881)

Hughes is working really slowly too. This is gonna be a loonnngg game.

21. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:30 PM (#3913882)

hughes looks good

22. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:31 PM (#3913883)

It was dumb to hit Cervell last night, but, WTF, hit him again.

23. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:32 PM (#3913884)

Good 3-2 pitch, came at him inside, Gonzalez was still looking outside.

24. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:33 PM (#3913885)

More swing and misses tonight so far than his entire last start. Still extremely nervous.

25. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:34 PM (#3913886)

Stat that probably intrests me:

Since 5th June:

Pedroia: 345 PA; .358/.433/.581/1.014

Bautista: 309 PA; .280/.417/.561/.978

26. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:34 PM (#3913887)

There's an 'only' missing there somewhere...

27. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:35 PM (#3913888)

To me, what I'd look for out of Hughes is how well he stands up over his outing rather than how he looks early. As a guy who's had success as a reliever, but up and down performance as a starter, it seems like going through the order once isn't the real test for him.

28. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:35 PM (#3913889)

Alright!

29. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:36 PM (#3913890)

Alright!

Alright the cheque to the ump cleared?

30. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3913891)

I was listening to MLB radio on the way home tonight and Wild Thing was saying Hughes can't work the low end of the zone with his fastball because it doesn't do anything. It looks like Hughes is refusing to throw any fastballs that are below the letters.

31. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3913892)

That was a super two seamer from Beckett.

32. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3913893)

I was listening to MLB radio on the way home tonight and Wild Thing was saying Hughes can't work the low end of the zone with his fastball because it doesn't do anything. It looks like Hughes is refusing to throw any fastballs that are below the letters.

I could see that. It also makes sense that he'd be good early (and as a reliever) with that being the case, since he's strong and has the velocity to miss bats up in the zone.

33. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3913894)

To me, what I'd look for out of Hughes is how well he stands up over his outing rather than how he looks early.

Hughes has been plenty shitty in the first this season too. Anything positive for him is something to cheer as a fan.

34. NJ in NJ Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3913896)

For the record...I can almost guarantee that Jeter bunted on his own.

35. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:42 PM (#3913897)

Alright the cheque to the ump cleared?

Why would you whine about the fastball two inches off the plate that went straight to the glove? Are you going to complain about that 0-1 strike Beckett just got on Swisher?

36. NJ in NJ Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:42 PM (#3913898)

Hughes has been plenty shitty in the first this season too. Anything positive for him is something to cheer as a fan.

This. He's hit 95 (at least) twice already on the YES gun. I haven't seen that in the starts I've watched outside of that one start somewhere I don't remember.

37. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3913900)

For the record...I can almost guarantee that Jeter bunted on his own.

Really? Why? If he was bunting on his won, he would have been trying to bunt ofr a hit, right? It didn't look like he was doing that.

38. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3913902)

Ah, that's ####### Kay for you. Chavez hammers a ball 400+ feet to CF and for ONCE, he doesn't lead off his call with the description of "DRIVEN!!!".

39. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:46 PM (#3913903)

[37] Because Jeter flat out SACRIFICES on his own. It's even more annoying than when Girardi calls for it.

40. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:46 PM (#3913904)

37 is my take as well. If Jeter was bunting on his own, he should be at least trying to get it up the line so he has a shot of beating it out. Instead he deadened it in front of the plate like a pure sacrifice bunt.

41. NJ in NJ Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM (#3913906)

Really? Why? If he was bunting on his won, he would have been trying to bunt ofr a hit, right? It didn't look like he was doing that.

Because Derek Jeter, no matter how hot or cold and, often times, no matter how sensible or silly, loves to sacrifice. It's really infuriating, especially in the days when he was one of the team's best hitters.

42. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:48 PM (#3913908)

Crawford's finally looking like he has a clue.

43. NJ in NJ Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:48 PM (#3913909)

Am I crazy or should CC be on 3rd there?

44. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:48 PM (#3913910)

Crawford is so effin' unpredictable. in the games where everyone is tattooing the ball, he'll strike out 3 times. Then, he'll 3 of the hits when an opposing pitcher gives up 5.

45. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:49 PM (#3913911)

Why would you whine about the fastball two inches off the plate that went straight to the glove?

No, but I'm not going to do the verbal equivalent of a fist bump about it either. That was pretty clearly a gifted strikeout.

Also this, not really the same as this.

46. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:49 PM (#3913913)

I certainly thought it was in the air long enough for a guy with Crawford's speed to get to third, but I can understand not risking it with 1 out.

47. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:50 PM (#3913914)

No need to risk making the 3rd out at third. He can score from second with two outs on just about any hit.

48. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:50 PM (#3913915)

This team would be a lot better off if Varitek had started against the lefty last night and Salty was playing today.

49. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:51 PM (#3913916)

They have to lay of the high hard one. Hughes has a lot of rising movement on it.

50. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:51 PM (#3913917)

Well, this probably means Hughes will be throwing 87 in the 5th inning, but so far, me likey!

51. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:52 PM (#3913918)

No, but I'm not going to do the verbal equivalent of a fist bump about it either. That was pretty clearly a gifted strikeout.

Good for you? And it wasn't. Pitches like that get called all the time when they hit the glove. I know you've seen a baseball game before, so you're just being ridiculous.

52. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:54 PM (#3913919)

Herb Chambers, Biz Marky and Kevin Youkilis. Heh.

53. NJ in NJ Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:55 PM (#3913920)

####### love Nuneeeeey. Hustle double master.

54. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:55 PM (#3913921)

Wow, in by the skin of his teeth! Nice to get a guy in scoring position to start the inning here.

55. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:56 PM (#3913922)

Eduardo Nuñez has more stolen bases than Crawford does.

56. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:56 PM (#3913923)

Yeah, Nune5!!!

57. Dan Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:57 PM (#3913925)

Cervelli looks deathly afraid of being hit.

58. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:57 PM (#3913926)

Cervelli looks ridiculous right now, is he afraid of the ball?

59. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:57 PM (#3913927)

Who's taking the over/under on the number of times Frankie Brains gets hit the rest of this series?

I'm setting it at 1.5

60. ray james Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:58 PM (#3913928)

What the hell is Cervelli looking at? It was right over the plate!

61. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:58 PM (#3913929)

I'm really surprised he got something to hit on 0-2.

62. NJ in NJ Posted: August 31, 2011 at 11:58 PM (#3913930)

Cervelli looks ridiculous right now, is he afraid of the ball?

Given that Beckett is the enforce of Playing The Game The Right Way and Cervelli's egregious transgressions from last night, I could understand his fear.

63. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:00 AM (#3913931)

Don't you pop-up here, Slappy.

64. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:00 AM (#3913932)

That's so not what they needed Brett.

65. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:01 AM (#3913933)

This might be the best curveball Beckett's had all season.

66. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:01 AM (#3913934)

The ump said Varitek caught that? I don't think he said that.

67. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:01 AM (#3913935)

[63] Not that a weak ####### K is any better.

I love me some GGBG, but his effort with runners at 3rd and less than 2 outs is ####### pathetic.

68. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:01 AM (#3913936)

#######

69. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:01 AM (#3913937)

Nice! Oh, man, out of his glove. Awesome.

70. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:01 AM (#3913938)

He really should have had that.

71. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:02 AM (#3913939)

Line drive in the box score!

72. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:02 AM (#3913941)

It didn't hit the pocket area. If it did, it would have been an out.

73. NJ in NJ Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:02 AM (#3913942)

Jeter has 14 steals?!?!?!

74. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:03 AM (#3913943)

Might as well steal third too. Not like Varitek has a prayer of throwing you out.

75. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:03 AM (#3913944)

Just walk Grandy, Tesh is the Master of Popouts ...

76. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:04 AM (#3913945)

Well, he's got two strikes now. May as well go for it.

77. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:04 AM (#3913946)

DRIVEN!!!

78. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:06 AM (#3913948)

Granderson and Teixeira look like they sit dead fastball on every pitch.

79. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:07 AM (#3913949)

DRIVEN!!!!

80. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:08 AM (#3913950)

OK, this will be the second time around. The hitters should have a better idea of what to wait for.

81. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:10 AM (#3913951)

OK, this will be the second time around. The hitters should have a better idea of what to wait for.

Right on cue...

And he didn't even attempt to stretch it into a double!

82. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:11 AM (#3913952)

Gardner has a nice arm.

Heh. Derek Lowe just hit a homer.

83. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:11 AM (#3913953)

JESUS IS COMING!!!

84. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:11 AM (#3913954)

And there it is...

85. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:12 AM (#3913955)

This is the Hughes I was expecting 2nd time around

86. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:12 AM (#3913956)

Oh, lovely.

87. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:15 AM (#3913960)

Well, I guess that's OK.

88. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:16 AM (#3913961)

He just missed that.

89. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:16 AM (#3913962)

A 1 pitch out, Gonzo? WTF?

90. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:16 AM (#3913963)

I will be happy if he can get out of this with one run. Good job getting Gonzalez with one pitch.

91. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:16 AM (#3913964)

Hooray, the stupid Girardi intentional walk!

92. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:16 AM (#3913966)

Way to work a struggling pitcher.

IBB in the 3rd inning.

93. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:17 AM (#3913968)

HATE HATE HATE intentional walks. Especially with a guy in scoring position. Think his command might be a little off after this Joe? You ####### #####.

94. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:17 AM (#3913969)

Interesting. Intentional walk with 2 outs. They must really be nervous about Papi.

95. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:18 AM (#3913970)

Suck on that, Binder.

96. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:18 AM (#3913971)

I <3 Jed!

97. bestergonomicgamingchair.com Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:18 AM (#3913972)

[94] When the binder calls, there is no refusing ...

98. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:18 AM (#3913973)

I LOVE GIRARDI!! He looks simian.

99. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:18 AM (#3913974)

Awesome, awesome ####### job, right down the ####### middle.

100. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 12:19 AM (#3913975)

Nice job by Lowrie.

Lowrie is another one who is wildly inconsistent. He'll look like #### one AB, then awesome the next.

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