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   1. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 02:54 PM (#2169102)
I can watch an Ollie Perez start. Woo!
   2. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 03:00 PM (#2169115)
Sam,

What was that you were saying about Piazza beating us in a playoff series not too long ago?

You have me officially worried, then again I'm worried till we at least clinch the division.
   3. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 03:28 PM (#2169143)
What was that you were saying about Piazza beating us in a playoff series not too long ago?

Actually, I think I said he'd hit a slam off #### Mota to win one game in a series the Mets would otherwise sweep, and that I'd be more than happy to give him (and them) that game. I believe in a just (Mets win) and vengeful (Mota gets slammed) God.
   4. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 03:31 PM (#2169147)
The BPro playoff odds have the Mets at 100%. 0.8% chances at the WC.
   5. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 03:32 PM (#2169149)
Ok, now that I can handle, but how awkward would it be for Mota to drill Piazza at Shea? I'm not a mean person but how crazy would that be?
   6. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 03:44 PM (#2169169)
how awkward would it be for Mota to drill Piazza at Shea? I'm not a mean person but how crazy would that be?

If Mota did that, I would not blame a single Mets' fan for littering the field with debris aimed at the pitchers' mound, booing the guy off the mound, and organizing a boycott until the Mets release him and promise that he would never, ever wear a Mets' uniform again. If Mota hit Mike Piazza with a pitch, I swear to you, I would root for the Padres for the rest of the series. Seriously.
   7. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:05 PM (#2169272)
We'd have to get Burnitz back to go on a mission to kill Mota. Man, that was funny.
   8. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#2169277)
Why does Sucker play everyday? Even with Floyd and Beltran out, spread the starts around, Willie.
   9. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#2169278)
Williams and Perez? Not very optimistic about pushing the magic number down today, guys.
   10. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#2169282)
Isn't Milledge up? He better start the second game.
   11. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:13 PM (#2169283)
Beltran back for Game 2, according to Hernandez! Yay.
   12. Corn On Ty Cobb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#2169285)
Well, Sam, Cox is doing his part to help by batting Francoeur third. You ####### moron Bobby.
   13. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#2169286)
Williams and Perez? Not very optimistic about pushing the magic number down today, guys.

Don't worry the Phillies will lose.
   14. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:19 PM (#2169292)
So Willie said in the Times today that he didn't think anyone recently called up would make the playoff roster. That scares me.
   15. Honkie Kong Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:22 PM (#2169297)
Interesting lineup Bobby. How is that medicinal marijuana working out for you?

Time I duck out for lunch. Can't stand this
   16. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:33 PM (#2169308)
McCann can hit. Darnit.
   17. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:37 PM (#2169317)
Yes, he can. He's so young and so good. I can see him killing the Mets for years to come.
   18. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#2169321)
Alright Stache!

I think old Andruw catches that.
   19. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:41 PM (#2169322)
Wait. Did Shawn Green just make a contribution? My heart . . . . I think I need to sit down.
   20. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:47 PM (#2169327)
That was an AB to end-y all ABs. Ugh.
   21. Barry Gibb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:57 PM (#2169345)
wow, francoeur's first 8 pitch at bat in his career. o how they do grow up fast.
   22. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 05:59 PM (#2169349)
Renteria grounded bunt out to center.

What?
   23. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:01 PM (#2169350)
Mets need one win today, or a Nats' loss, to claim their first scalp.
   24. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:03 PM (#2169352)
Ugh. LoDuca, the ONE thing you're supposed to do is take pitches until Reyes runs. Please don't swing the damn bat with him on first.

Thank you for your attention.

(And no I'm not serious. Just annoyed.)
   25. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:06 PM (#2169360)
Actually, Sam, I wish LoDuca *would* do that.
   26. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:10 PM (#2169368)
And McCann makes up for that HR!
   27. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:11 PM (#2169370)
Actually, Sam, I wish LoDuca *would* do that.

Not swing at all? That's pretty extreme . . . . He'd put himself in a heck of a hole in a lot of ABs. I can't believe that'd actually be a net positive for the offense (especially if opposing pitchers caught on).
   28. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:14 PM (#2169372)
Just because LoDuca hasn't done is annual fade yet doesn't mean that I am not worried about it arriving at any moment. Or in October.

He's been better than I ever expected, but his single-heavy offense could go bad quickly.
   29. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:16 PM (#2169374)
Not swing at all?

*until Reyes runs.* Reyes then runs on one of the first three pitches.
   30. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:19 PM (#2169380)
Reyes then runs on one of the first three pitches.

Well, that's a big key. Reyes doesn't always do that. I'd be happy to tell LoDuca he's on a three-pitch embargo, definitely.

So Minaya there was pretty Sphinx-like re. the make-up of the post-season pitching staff I couldn't read anything there on his thinking about Maine, could you?
   31. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:40 PM (#2169400)
THREE Mets with 100 RBIs. Excellent!!!
   32. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:41 PM (#2169402)
Considering Del Gado is having an off year -- he has been pretty awesome.
   33. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:42 PM (#2169403)
First time since Piazza, Ventura and Alfonzo in 1999.
   34. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:44 PM (#2169404)
I think we just saw the furthest Green can hit the ball in this park. Get used to that next year, folks. He won't hit five Shea homers next year.
   35. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:47 PM (#2169410)
Sam, I can't imagine Green in on the team next year. I think the Mets will pay for him to play somewhere else next year like Pittsburgh.
   36. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:50 PM (#2169412)
Keith!!!!!
   37. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:54 PM (#2169417)
Always my favorite, leave for lunch down 1-0 come back up 3-1, this has happened so many times this year when I have stepped away, looks like I will be missing a lot of middle innings in the playoffs when we are down.
   38. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:56 PM (#2169419)
Smoltz had to work hard for those 18 outs. He did not have it today. Can't believe we only scored three.
   39. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:57 PM (#2169420)
I cannot believe we just lifted Williams with two outs and he's thrown 66 pitches. I hope he was ill or hurt.
   40. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 06:58 PM (#2169422)
Smoltz had to work hard for those 18 outs. He did not have it today. Can't believe we only scored three.

The magic of a pitcher like Smoltz. He is smart and he works with what he has and he knows how to work hitters in the right situations. It's why he's lasted and why the Braves would be lunatics not to pick up his option.
   41. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:00 PM (#2169423)
Why would we lift Williams there? That's godawful in the first game of a DH.
   42. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:00 PM (#2169424)
I cannot believe we just lifted Williams with two outs and he's thrown 66 pitches.

For Rickey Ledee, of all people, to pinch hit. Wow.
   43. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:01 PM (#2169426)
Nice job by Reyes to handle that throw.
   44. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:01 PM (#2169427)
If we lose this game, it s Willie's error. If we don't have the right pitchers int eh second game, it is Willie's error. That's just a mind-boggling bad manuever.
   45. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:01 PM (#2169428)
I cannot believe we just lifted Williams with two outs and he's thrown 66 pitches.

With the extended rosters I am ok with hitting for him with a chance to break the game wide open in that situation -- but Ledee. I figure Wiilliams is a likely to get a hit as Ledee. What a waste.
   46. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:02 PM (#2169429)
Pedro Feliciano is LOOGY awesomeness.
   47. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:05 PM (#2169434)
Unless -- as you properly noted, Chris -- there's info we don't know about Williams straining something. But otherwise, I agree it was a bad move that Randolph might just get away with because Feliciano pitched a good 7th.
   48. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:05 PM (#2169435)
Had no idea Yates was still playing baseball.
   49. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:11 PM (#2169441)
Guillermo can drill whoever he wants to here
   50. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:11 PM (#2169442)
Great. Mota gets the 8th here. High leverage; watch him blow the lead, AND piss off Heilman while he does.
   51. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:12 PM (#2169444)
Maybe Willie is going to use Williams in relief on the nightcap. I don't get it.
   52. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:14 PM (#2169449)
I think Williams may deserve to be on the post season roster ahead of Trachsel.
   53. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:20 PM (#2169456)
This bullpen is awesome.
   54. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:22 PM (#2169460)
This bullpen is awesome.

That's why you hit for Williams. He just shoulda used someone who can actually hit.
   55. Corn On Ty Cobb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:22 PM (#2169461)
I think my grandmother could mow these Braves' hackers down right now.
   56. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:23 PM (#2169463)
Mota might become Heilman's best friend. He could be the key to Heilman becoming a starter.
   57. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:23 PM (#2169464)
I guess I'm just going to have to be OK with the duality of both hating Mota and accepting him pitching well as being good for the Mets, aren't I?
   58. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:24 PM (#2169465)
WOW! Shawn Green lessens my hate for him!
   59. manchestermets Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:24 PM (#2169466)
That's why you hit for Williams. He just shoulda used someone who can actually hit.

I would agree entirely but for the fact that this is the first game of a doubleheader where there's every chance that they'll need six innings of relief in the second game.
   60. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:25 PM (#2169468)
When did Tucker become a walking machine?
   61. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:26 PM (#2169469)
there's every chance that they'll need six innings of relief in the second game.

What??? With Mr. Reliable starting the nightcap???
   62. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:28 PM (#2169470)
Right - you leave Williams in for two reasons - 1. he's dealing, and anyone you bring in may not have "it". He'd thrown only 66 pitches! It boosts his confidence that he thinks you have in him. You can lift him if any two get on. 2. Save the pen for the second game. Never use a resource you might need later if you don't need to. This is not even close - 66 pitches.
   63. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:28 PM (#2169471)
six innings of relief in the second game

They will probably need eight. But you have Darren Oliver and what -- ten other arms to get you there.
   64. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:29 PM (#2169473)
Keith doesn't like the Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose chant???

I take back everything nice I ever said about him. Philistine.
   65. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:30 PM (#2169476)
This, however it comes out, should be an entertaining match-up . . . .
   66. manchestermets Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:31 PM (#2169477)
<cite>ten other arms to get you there.</cite>

Ah, well, if it means we get to see Humber pitch an inning I suppose I won't mind.
   67. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:32 PM (#2169481)
Never use a resource you might need later if you don't need to.

Reminds me of LaRussa leaving not using Big Mac in the 2000 NLCS or "saving" your closer for when you get the lead in extra innings. If you see a chance for a win you grab it. A double there essentially wins you the game. You never know what is going to happen the next game. Perez may pitch a shut out in game 2 or give up 10 runs in the first. Either way who gives a #### about the bullpen.
   68. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:33 PM (#2169483)
I come back to see Dave Williams has outpitched John Smoltz and Shawn Green hit a homer. Not quite what I expected.
   69. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#2169485)
Sweet win.
   70. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:34 PM (#2169486)
Let's see . . .

That's our first scalp; the Nats are now eliminated!

The Braves' tragic number is now down to six. Six to end the 14 year dynasty . . . . wow.

The magic number: Walt Frazier.
   71. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:35 PM (#2169488)
Ballgame!

This is just a regular DH right? Not day/night?
   72. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:38 PM (#2169489)
Sweet work from Wags. Did we even throw 100 pitches that game?
   73. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:39 PM (#2169490)
103 pitches.
   74. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:40 PM (#2169492)
A double there essentially wins you the game.

Sure, but that matchup had little to no chance for a double. Were there 1 out, I would agree with a PH there. If he used Beltran - okay. But not htese guys.
   75. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:45 PM (#2169501)
Does anyone here think Green is still capable of hitting .350/.425 with the Mets?
   76. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:47 PM (#2169505)
If he used Beltran - okay. But not htese guys.

Agreed.

I guess the bigger question is why Ledee even on the roster at this point. So long as he is there, there is a risk Willie use him.
   77. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 07:55 PM (#2169513)
Does anyone here think Green is still capable of hitting .350/.425 with the Mets?

Does it matter? If this is his upside (coupled with his defense) he is not worthy of a starting RF spot.
   78. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:01 PM (#2169526)
Keith doesn't like the Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose chant???

The one I was not aware of until they started it after his HR in CO. Was my favorite chant by far.

Oliver versus Francouer should make for a very interesting matchup, we better see Milledge.
   79. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:02 PM (#2169529)
I should say Perez vs Francouer
   80. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:04 PM (#2169530)
IPOR is batting second... is Willie retarded?
   81. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:06 PM (#2169536)
IPOR is batting second

It must be Bobby Cox's birthday. Or Kyle Davies'. Willie is just in a generous mood. Sigh.
   82. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:07 PM (#2169539)
Willie wants to suicide squeeze.
   83. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:09 PM (#2169542)
Green again and no Lastings, errrr
   84. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:09 PM (#2169543)
Back from classes just in time for part 2 of the DH.

As for the first, Dave Williams just keeps rolling huh?

And Shawn Green with 3 hits. Wow.
   85. Greg Franklin Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:12 PM (#2169550)
Ducking in from the rain delay .... lo, I see Cousin Oliver at a Mets game again!
   86. Corn On Ty Cobb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:12 PM (#2169551)
It must be Bobby Cox's birthday. Or Kyle Davies'. Willie is just in a generous mood. Sigh.

Bobby more than made up for by batting Francoeur 3rd again. Unreal.
   87. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:13 PM (#2169556)
This start should be pretty frustrating to follow on gameday
   88. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:14 PM (#2169559)
Ok, I take that back for a half inning
   89. Corn On Ty Cobb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:17 PM (#2169562)
You ####### suck Francoeur.
   90. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:17 PM (#2169564)
Holy crap - we have three starters in the game? Beltran, Reyes and Floyd? That's 5 suck players.
   91. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:19 PM (#2169566)
JOSE JOSE JOSE!
   92. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:19 PM (#2169567)
JOSE BERNABE REYES!!!
   93. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:20 PM (#2169569)
Jose...Jose...Jose.....Joseeeeeee!
   94. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:20 PM (#2169570)
Glad to see Anderson Hernandez still can't put it out of the infield.
   95. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:20 PM (#2169571)
The protection that IPOR provided Reyes was the reason for that homer. Not.
   96. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:22 PM (#2169574)
It should be entertaining to see if he can stay about .100 or an OPS above .250
   97. Foghorn Leghorn Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:24 PM (#2169581)
And Reyes delivers! That's the Mets record for leadoff HRs in a season, I believe.
   98. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:29 PM (#2169591)
Father Time!
   99. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:29 PM (#2169594)
FRANCO!
   100. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:29 PM (#2169596)
Braves pitching is not good.
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