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   101. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:29 PM (#2169597)
Julio! The patented single to right
   102. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:31 PM (#2169600)
man, i have to stop posting from class.
   103. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:33 PM (#2169603)
well, i go and do some work, to come back and see an even worse lineup. And still no Sting. Ugh.

At least we won.
   104. J. Cross Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:37 PM (#2169613)
Green showing signs of life today!

Endy makes that play without a slide but does Nady get there?

Also, Perez looks like he has the good fastball.
   105. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:38 PM (#2169615)
I like the command. Let's see if Ollie can keep it up.
   106. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:39 PM (#2169617)
When Ollie looks good, he looks good.
   107. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:40 PM (#2169619)
You know, with the Mets having given four starts to Jose Lima, and now three to Perez, if they go on to win 100 games, those will have to be the worst set of starts a 100-win team has ever given to two pitchers. Perez with the 7.29 ERA, Lima with the 9.87 . . . Unreal.

And I'm glad we have Perez -- don't get me wrong.
   108. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:44 PM (#2169626)
Jose Reyes is beautiful.
   109. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:44 PM (#2169630)
Steal second now.
   110. Free Rob Base Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:45 PM (#2169631)
Bad play with Hernandez up.
   111. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:46 PM (#2169634)
He shouldn't have listened to me.
   112. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:49 PM (#2169642)
That was a beautiful pitch.
   113. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:49 PM (#2169644)
Damn. There goes the no-hitter.
   114. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:51 PM (#2169646)
Yea I was gonna say if Ollie could break that jinx for us the Nady trade would be well worth it.
   115. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:51 PM (#2169647)
We are seeing the autumn of Cliff's Met years . . . I hope he has a terrific finish coming up for us and him.

Perez with the nice inning.
   116. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:56 PM (#2169651)
IPOR got it to the outfield!
   117. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: September 06, 2006 at 08:56 PM (#2169653)
What a waste of ABs
   118. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:05 PM (#2169673)
I'm beginning to really dislike Renteria. Every time they get in on his hands, he get it out there anyway.
   119. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:05 PM (#2169675)
I'm not so sure Cliff is done as a Met. Do you really want to go into next season with Milledge and Green as the corners? Rookies often struggle and Green might be done.
   120. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:06 PM (#2169678)
Wow, the second out on fan interference in the last week, I think.
   121. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:07 PM (#2169679)
God, I hate idiotic fans. Get your hands in the stands you moron. Throw his ass out.
   122. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:08 PM (#2169683)
THAT (in a nutshell) is why Beltran, NOT Howard, is the MVP.
   123. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:09 PM (#2169685)
Beltran is just so good.
   124. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:19 PM (#2169699)
Just got back from Italian class (yes, I'm trying to be more like Paul Lo Duca and Mike Piazza). IPOR is batting second? Wha?
   125. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:22 PM (#2169707)
Really good work from Ollie so far.
   126. Chris Dial Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:23 PM (#2169710)
This is just awesome. I love the Mets.
   127. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:25 PM (#2169713)
Why not Stinnett today? Aren't they auditioning for the second catcher's spot in the playoffs?
   128. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:25 PM (#2169714)
I took Italian class. I took it because it was an easy A for me, it was even better when I discovered my teacher didn't look like my grandmother and was hot.
   129. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:28 PM (#2169719)
Why not Stinnett today? Aren't they auditioning for the second catcher's spot in the playoffs?

Does it matter? Isn't Stinnett exactly like DiFelice but younger?
   130. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:29 PM (#2169720)
My teacher is not hot, but a funny Sicilian woman.

However, there are plenty of hot freshmen girls in the class.
   131. Chris Dial Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:30 PM (#2169725)
Stinnett has to be better.
   132. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:30 PM (#2169726)
Well, I'd like to see if Stinnett can get the ball to the outfield, unlike DiFelice.
   133. Banta Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:30 PM (#2169727)
Looking like the "I Want Nady Back" club is gonna take a serious blow today.
   134. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:31 PM (#2169729)
Why is IPOR swinging away there?
   135. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:31 PM (#2169730)
IPOR is terrible. There is no excuse for batting him second.
   136. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:33 PM (#2169734)
That IPOR groundout was predictable.
   137. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:33 PM (#2169735)
Nice pitch, Hiram.
   138. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:36 PM (#2169741)
No no Gary. Do not mention that Dbacks doubleheader.

No.
   139. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:37 PM (#2169746)
Ollimania!
   140. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:38 PM (#2169747)
I like this Perez much better than the one last week.
   141. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:39 PM (#2169750)
I will never get tired of that commercial with Beltran's walk off homer. It should be mandatory for every commercial break.
   142. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:43 PM (#2169759)
I'm leaving to get some dinner. I expect to see Oliver Perez be on track or have a complete game shutout when I get back.
   143. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:44 PM (#2169760)
I guess I'm just going to have to be OK with the duality of both hating Mota and accepting him pitching well as being good for the Mets, aren't I?


You're going to sell yourself out for a $10 quickie, Sam? Didn't your mama teach you better than that?
   144. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:45 PM (#2169761)
Shawn Green doesn't blow!
   145. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:47 PM (#2169764)
I smell a classic 2006 Mets big inning eruption.
   146. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:47 PM (#2169766)
Woody!
   147. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:48 PM (#2169767)
Nice. Woody solidifies his spot on this team.
   148. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:48 PM (#2169768)
Dammit, forgot that DiFelice and Perez were due up next. Scratch that eruption idea.
   149. Greg Franklin Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:51 PM (#2169773)
Poor Davies.... knocked out by CFW.

However, there are plenty of hot freshmen girls in the class

Leggy brunettes? Paulie has dibs.
   150. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:52 PM (#2169776)
IPOR is terrible. There is no excuse for batting him second.


IPOR might be the only example where using steroids should be legal.
   151. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:53 PM (#2169779)
Would it kill Willie to give Sting an AB?
   152. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:55 PM (#2169782)
Endy magic!
   153. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:57 PM (#2169783)
Endy Magic! He is awesome.
   154. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 09:58 PM (#2169785)
Now that those two spots in the order are out of the way, I predict a huge inning again.
   155. manchestermets Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:00 PM (#2169789)
How much is Endy likely to make next year, and how likely is he to get anywhere near repeating his performance of this year? If he can be got cheap, given the Mets' strength in the rest of the lineup and the excellence of his defense, would people be happy with Endy in one of the corners next year leaving cash free for starting pitching?
   156. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:08 PM (#2169798)
I don't know Endy's contract status, but assuming he's a free agent at the end of the year, I don't think it's too likely he returns to the Mets next year. Without looking at every team, I'd assume there are at least 5 or 6 teams that would be willing to bring him in and give him a nice contract for a couple years and give him a chance to be their centerfielder. Last season, Marlon Anderson had an Endy-like role as an infielder, was not nearly as good as Chavez has been in any way, and was given a 2 year contract at a $1 mil per. I would assume Endy probably gets two or 3 years at $2-3mil per, and I don't think the Mets would do that.
   157. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:11 PM (#2169804)
Endy won't be a free agent until after the 2008 season.
   158. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:13 PM (#2169808)
Oh. Then nevermind, and nice.
   159. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:13 PM (#2169809)
I propose that Oliver Perez's nickname be "Jekyll and Hyde."

Whatever potion he took for today, Perez better keep taking it.
   160. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:14 PM (#2169813)
Endy won't be a free agent until after the 2008 season.

You have made me very happy, Russlan.
   161. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:14 PM (#2169814)
Endy won't be a free agent until after the 2008 season.
####### sweet, dude.
   162. manchestermets Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:17 PM (#2169818)
I didn't realise that. Yeah, that's pretty sweet.
   163. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:17 PM (#2169819)
Holy ####, Shawn Green again!
   164. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:18 PM (#2169821)
Shawn Green *still* doesn't blow!!
   165. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:18 PM (#2169822)
Maybe Green will go all Jose Valentin on us.
   166. manchestermets Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:18 PM (#2169823)
Wow.
   167. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:28 PM (#2169833)
Green has raised his Met OPS by .319 points today.
   168. . . . . . . Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:29 PM (#2169836)
Big crowd at Shea today.
   169. . . . . . . Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:31 PM (#2169837)
Can someone explain to me why the Pirates traded 2 of their 3 best players to the two NYC teams for a bag of baseballs and an attaboy?
   170. Srul Itza Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:32 PM (#2169839)
8 inning, 82 pitches, 6 Ks, no walks.

Ollie Perez, giving the bullpen a rest? Whouldathunkit.
   171. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:32 PM (#2169841)
Because they're the Pirates.
   172. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:34 PM (#2169844)
What's crazy is that he's making this look so easy. It's like little boys flailing away.
   173. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:35 PM (#2169845)
Perez has pitched well but the Braves have given up.
   174. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:35 PM (#2169847)
Back. And the Ollie Perez CG SHO is still a possibility. Good work guys.
   175. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:38 PM (#2169852)
So what do the Mets do with their rotation now? It'd be hard to defend dropping either Ollie or Williams after today (and for Williams, his entire stint with the Mets). So do they go with 7 guys to rest Glavine and Pedro, or just skip a few of everyone's starts?
   176. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:39 PM (#2169855)
Sweet DP.
   177. zack Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:40 PM (#2169856)
IPOR can still field.
   178. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:40 PM (#2169857)
Nice DP, IPOR. IPOR is a great name because it applies even when he's not at bat.
   179. . . . . . . Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:41 PM (#2169858)
This is a classic case-study in the "NEVER TRADE LEFTIES WHO THROW 99MPH" lecture they should give at GM College during freshman orientation.
   180. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:42 PM (#2169861)
Boo. Ollie almost had a start without a walk.
   181. Chris in Wicker Park Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:42 PM (#2169863)
Francoeur is walking all over the Mets.
   182. AJMcCringleberry Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:43 PM (#2169865)
CG SHO!
   183. Banta Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:44 PM (#2169868)
This is a classic case-study in the "NEVER TRADE LEFTIES WHO THROW 99MPH"


What does that have to do with Perez?

He pitched very well today, but there was a lot of good defensive plays made behind him and one good game isn't what we're looking for in Perez. It's consistency. But this is a good first step.
   184. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:44 PM (#2169869)
Further proof Dave Littlefield should be fired...
   185. Joshemy Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:44 PM (#2169870)
Great start from Ollie!
   186. Srul Itza Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:46 PM (#2169872)
That's why Willie pulled Williams. He knew Ollie was going to go 9 today, and he wanted to give them some work.
   187. Sam M. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 11:20 PM (#2169890)
I guess I'm just going to have to be OK with the duality of both hating Mota and accepting him pitching well as being good for the Mets, aren't I?

You're going to sell yourself out for a $10 quickie, Sam? Didn't your mama teach you better than that?


Cute. But having to learn to be "OK" with it -- while still hating the SOB -- is a little different than doing the Rasky Dance over the Mota acquisition, my friend. ;-)

He pitched very well today, but there was a lot of good defensive plays made behind him and one good game isn't what we're looking for in Perez. It's consistency. But this is a good first step.

Sigh. Yes, we want consistency. Yes, it's only a first step. But the fact that Oliver Perez is even capable of pitching a game like that is why he's EASILY worth trading a Xavier Nady for. Easily. And always will be.

Missed the second half of the game -- had to go teach. But to get back from class to see an 8-0 demolition of the Braves for the sweep . . . baby, I love it.

So now the magic number is nine, and we are a tantalizingly close FOUR games from eliminating the Braves. Four . . . It's going to end, and it's going to end soon. Maybe this weekend, when unfortunately I'm probably going to be out of touch and will miss marking the occasion. Ah, well.
   188. Old Matt Posted: September 06, 2006 at 11:24 PM (#2169895)
Single digits.
   189. Raskolnikov Posted: September 06, 2006 at 11:34 PM (#2169901)
I guess I'm just going to have to be OK with the duality of both hating Mota and accepting him pitching well as being good for the Mets, aren't I?

You're going to sell yourself out for a $10 quickie, Sam? Didn't your mama teach you better than that?

Cute. But having to learn to be "OK" with it -- while still hating the SOB -- is a little different than doing the Rasky Dance over the Mota acquisition, my friend. ;-)


Like I said, I'm a weak man. I hate the guy's history, but that's no reason not to enjoy his talents while he's on the team. And Mota's kept quiet about his history, which I respect.
   190. Banta Posted: September 07, 2006 at 12:50 AM (#2169981)
But the fact that Oliver Perez is even capable of pitching a game like that is why he's EASILY worth trading a Xavier Nady for.

I might remind you that Alay Soler pitched a game like this.

Perez is talented. But I still think his odds of putting it all together are small and not worth Nady's value to the team this season. You don't agree and that's fine, but I don't really think my position is unreasonable.

Certainly, a GM needs to look to building for the future but I wouldn't trade Nady for a project during the middle of a certain postseason run. Who knows what will happen next year and if the Mets fail in the postseason because their lineup doesn't feature enough players who can consistently hit lefties, this trade is going to look bad.

A good game for Perez isn't gonna change my mind. But, we've run this topic into the ground enough now.
   191. Sam M. Posted: September 07, 2006 at 02:15 AM (#2170164)
And with the Phillies' loss, the magic number is . . . EIGHT. And a blow to Ryan Howard's faux MVP candidacy. Excellent!
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